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Mass Shooting Indicates Breakdown of Military

by: Dahr Jamail, t r u t h o u t | Report

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Soldiers at Fort Hood line up in preparation to deploy to Afghanistan. (Photo: US Army / flickr)

At approximately 1:30 p.m. CST today, a soldier went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas, killing 12 people and wounding at least 31 others, according to base commander Lieutenant-General Bob Cone.

Truthout spoke with an Army Specialist who is an active-duty Iraq war veteran currently stationed at the base. The soldier spoke on condition of anonymity since the base is now on “lockdown,” and all “non-authorized” military personnel on the base have been ordered not to speak to the press.

“A soldier entered the ‘Soldier Readiness Center (SRC)’ with two handguns and opened fire,” the soldier, who is currently getting treatment for traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) explained. “That facility is where you go just before you deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.”

The soldier named the gunman as Major Malik Nadal Hasan, and said he was about 40 years old. According to the soldier, Hasan was a member of the base’s Medical Evaluation Board, and worked there as a counselor.

At a news conference Thursday evening, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said Maj. Hasan, who was shot four times,  is alive and in stable condition at a nearby hospital where he is being guarded by military personnel.

“I can confirm Major Hasan was the gunman, and I actually saw him this morning,” the soldier explained. “I was over in the area doing some paperwork, and saw him at the facility. He seemed fine to me, and I spoke with one of my friends who had an appointment with him this morning. They said Major Hasan seemed OK to them too.”

The soldier believes that at least one Killeen Police Department officer was killed before the gunman was shot.

Fort Hood, located in central Texas, is the largest US military base in the world and contains up to 50,000 soldiers. It is one of the most heavily deployed bases to both Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, the shooter himself was facing an impending deployment to Iraq.

The soldier says that the mood on the base is “very grim,” and that even before this incident, troop morale has been very low.

“I’d say it’s at an all-time low - mostly because of Afghanistan now,” he explained. “Nobody knows why we are at either place, and I believe the troops need to know why they are there, or we should pull out, and this is a unanimous feeling, even for folks who are pro-war.”

In a strikingly similar incident on May 11, 2009, a US soldier gunned down five fellow soldiers at a stress-counseling center at a US base in Baghdad. Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the US military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters at a news conference at the Pentagon that the shootings occurred in a place where “individuals were seeking help.”

 “It does speak to me, though, about the need for us to redouble our efforts, the concern in terms of dealing with the stress,” Admiral Mullen said. “It also speaks to the issue of multiple deployments.”

Commenting on the incident in nearly parallel terms, US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said that the Pentagon needs to redouble its efforts to relieve stress caused by repeated deployments in war zones; stress that is further exacerbated by limited time at home in between deployments.

The condition described by Mullen and Gates is what veteran health experts often refer to as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

While soldiers returning home are routinely involved in shootings, suicide and other forms of self-destructive violent behavior as a direct result of their experiences in Iraq, we have yet to see an event of this magnitude take place in Iraq.

Prior to the May incident, the last reported incident of this kind happened in 2005, when an Army captain and lieutenant were killed when an anti-personnel mine detonated in the window of their room at a US base in Tikrit. In that case, National Guard Staff Sgt. Alberto Martinez was acquitted.

The shocking story of a soldier killing five of his comrades does not come as a surprise when we consider that the military has, for years now, been sending troops with untreated PTSD back into the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

According to an Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center analysis, reported in the Denver Post in August 2008, more than “43,000 service members -- two-thirds of them in the Army or Army Reserve -- were classified as nondeployable for medical reasons three months before they deployed” to Iraq.

Mark Thompson also has reported in Time magazine, “Data contained in the Army’s fifth Mental Health Advisory Team report indicate that, according to an anonymous survey of US troops taken last fall, about 12 percent of combat troops in Iraq and 17 percent of those in Afghanistan are taking prescription antidepressants or sleeping pills to help them cope.”

In April 2008, the RAND Corporation released a stunning report revealing, “Nearly 20 percent of military service members who have returned from Iraq and Afghanistan - 300,000 in all - report symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder or major depression, yet only slightly more than half have sought treatment.”

President Barack Obama, speaking during an event at the Department of the Interior in Washington, said that the mass shooting at Fort Hood was a "horrific outburst of violence". He added, "It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil."

Victor Agosto, an Iraq war veteran who was discharged from the military after publicly refusing to deploy to Afghanistan, has had firsthand experience with the SRFC at Fort Hood, where he too was based.

“I knew there would be a confrontation when I was there, because the only reason to do that process is to deploy,” Agosto explained, speaking to Truthout near Fort Hood . “So the shooter clearly intended to stop people from deploying.”

Agosto was court-martialed for refusing an order to go to the SRC to prepare to deploy to Afghanistan.

“I was court-martialed for refusing the order to SRC in that very same building. I didn’t enter the building, but I didn’t go in because I was refusing the process,” Agosto continued. “It’s a pretty important place in my life, so it’s interesting to me that this happened there.”

  

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Dahr Jamail, an independent journalist, is the author of "The Will to Resist: Soldiers Who Refuse to Fight in Iraq and Afghanistan," (Haymarket Books, 2009), and "Beyond the Green Zone: Dispatches From an Unembedded Journalist in Occupied Iraq," (Haymarket Books, 2007). Jamail reported from occupied Iraq for nine months as well as from Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Turkey over the last five years.

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One possibility is that

One possibility is that Major Hassan was suffering from secondary trauma after so much time spent trying to help soldiers with their own combat-related traumas. This can be a problem for any professional health care provider who deals with PTSD.

It also shows the widespread

It also shows the widespread "failure" of psychiatric medications. These are being prescribed as the "solution", much the same as in our civilian lives when other interventions and changes would help people who are suffering much more effectively with a cure rate of 100%. Instead, broken Army administration has been putting out fires with gasoline. Things that make people happy are generally easy to understand: love, good jobs, a roof over ones head. The Army is fighting America's imperial wars; violence for supremacy and with it the death, the destruction, the epic waste and the breaking of soldiers hearts and minds.

How long will it take for

How long will it take for everyone to realize that both Iraq and Afghanistan are nothing more than profit centers for the military industrial complex? These businesses which are funded by taxpayer monies have no feelings for the real people who are in these counties actually engaged in the conflict, whether our own or natives of the nations on whose soil we fight. WAR IS FOR PROFIT as was so succinctly stated years ago by twice Medal of Honored Marine General Smedley Butler. These wars are a disgrace to humankind and are ruining our once great nation.

Obama - Listen, please,

Obama - Listen, please, really listen. Time to bring all our troops home. In the hard times that this country is having, families need to be together.

obombem would have impressed

obombem would have impressed me more if he said, "we'll have to get to the bottom of this senseless violence. maybe this horrific outburst is telling us we are fundamentally flawed in our outlook and should protect our soldiers by genuinely working for peace, instead of domination in the world."

Dahr Jamail's use of an

Dahr Jamail's use of an anonymous source here is entirely appropriate and ethical; and for the Soldier quoted it's heroic. And this brave Service Member better not ever have to suffer ANY repercussions of any kind for talking openly and honestly about moral from inside (on) one of our Military Bases deploying to Iraq and Afganistan. As a civilian, I want to know, but never get the chance to hear, but more importantly since less than one third of one percent of our population is actually bearing this sacrifice for the Nation, the sense of isolation among military personnel and their families must be unbearable and surely the isolation itself must contribute to their already heavy load. Now, contrast this anonymous quote with any --of many-- self-serving lies reported anonymously by our major reputable news organizations by or from Karl Rove (4 draft deferments), Dick Cheney (5 draft deferments) or Paul Wolfowitz (6 draft deferments). Chicken-Hawk is too kind an expression for these cowards.

P.S.---The U.S. government

P.S.---The U.S. government is now greatly about instilling fear in order to coerce silence and acquiescence to the process of the eradication of freedom(s) that is going, and to stifle descent against it. And far too many of the "Americans" who even know this is taking place have become, or are fast becoming, too fearful to speak out against it, just as the powers that be behind it designed. This is almost exactly what happened in 1930s Germany when Nazism was rising to and obtained power, and then dissenters were themselves eradicated. Fully think, People, and don't allow yourselves to be made cowardly and traitors to the Constitution and the United States itself. Please realize that if we don't ALL be True Patriots and stand up against this fast encroaching darkness, most of us are doomed anyway. Patrick Henry, one of the U.S.'s greatest founding fathers made the exceedingly famous American Revolutionary declaration, "Give me liberty or give me death", meaning that if we don't secure and/or preserve True Liberty, life would and/or will not be w0rth living anyway. Thus, you've got nothing to lose. If you die standing up against this darkness, at least you will have the satisfaction of knowing you're dying a True Patriot. But if, as a result of not standing up against it, you die, you will die a coward and traitor against God, the United States and the world. So isn't the best, and most right, course obvious? And isn't it obvious as well that we have little other choice than to stand up against it, unless we choose to be cowards and traitors?

I am so very surprised this

I am so very surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. I sincerely hope, since this Major was so outspoken against the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan that we, the other veterans of those wars who also oppose them won't get any fallout. But we will. As soon as Rush Limbaugh and his ilk get ahold of it, they'll say the killer was wearing an IVAW T-shirt! Unfortunately there will be many more killings by this current crop of vets. The help is simply not there and when it is, it's sometimes very, very hard to get the veterans to accept it. This I say not out of malice but out of experience.

The Ft. Hood incident is

The Ft. Hood incident is just further indication that the U.S. imperialist policies of illegal invasion, occupation, torture, extraordinary rendition, etc., are reaching their end. The U.S. is a broken empire which has over-reached both its capacities and its credibility. After 60 years of post-World War II adventurism, covert action, human rights abuses, support of dicatators (Somaza, Noriega, Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussien, etc), death squads (El Salvador, Colombia), and corrupt regimes (Iraq, Afghanistan, Colombia), the U.S. now faces large numbers of military suicides, out of control soldiers and contractors, and now this fragging on an unprecedented scale inside the largest U.S. military base in the world, soldiers refusing to return for back to back to back tours, an economy stressed to the point of staganation if not collapse, and a society falling apart at the seams and without cohesion. All this indicates that it is time to shut down this bloody, genocidal, out of control U.S. military-industrial complex which has turned the vast majority of the world against the U.S., ruined any claim to moral superioity that it may once have laid claim to, and divided the people of this country in a way that has diplomats resigning, military men grumbling out loud, soldiers killing themselves and other soldiers, and the public turning its back on this failed, worthless, bloody fiasco that is about to turn into another U.S. defeat in Afghanistan. U.S. out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia and elsewhere. Bring the troops home now. David Brookbank β€” β€œHasta donde debemos practicar las verdades?

I hate all war and oppose

I hate all war and oppose the Afghanistan and Iraq occupation. However unless he is found to be unaware of his actions, what he did is inexcusable. Why shoot others, take their lives? Why not take your own, or run, or anything other than a damn shooting spree! What he did is criminal and wrong. For any other soldier who isn't a criminal, as it appears in this situation, i have deep sympathy for what they deal with and the ptsd they absolutely are going to have.

My sympathies. Sadistic

My sympathies. Sadistic torture as policy is purposely dehumanizing and ruinous. Why Afganistan indeed. via Max Keiser http://maxkeiser.com/2009/10/30/ote25-on-the-edge-with-catherine-austin-fitts/#comment On the Edge with Catherine Austin Fitts of http://solari.com

A lot of conflicting reports

A lot of conflicting reports over this incident. The police were there enmasse in an instant...hmmm check this link for a very different view on what else may have happened at Fort Hood . http://www.worldreports.org/news/244_fort_hood_recovery_of_the_chinese_currency_boxes

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KK06Df01.html http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KK06Df02.html Don't give up hope, soldiers, things behind the scenes are being done to solve this quagmire.

This sounds as childish and

This sounds as childish and knee-jerk as Rush saying that the recent wins by Republicans in Governor elections in NJ and Virginia show a breakdown in Obama's presidency. This was the act of the sick and twisted, not an act of the US military as a whole. Our enlisted men and women are good people.

PTSS? From what? Hearing

PTSS? From what? Hearing others talk about PTSS? What nonsense! Perhaps, this was simply the military version of an attempted "suicide by cop." If there were a military draft in this country, both these wars would have been finished or never started long ago.

War is killing madness, in

War is killing madness, in Fort Hood,Irak Afghanistan,Colombia the new beachhead in Southamerica, stop it now!

Here's the original message

Here's the original message I wrote which didn't make it before I posted the "P.S.": "Welcome" to the "Roman Empire, Part II". The U.S. empire will also fall very soon. But the problem is that this is ALL by design. The powers that be are intentionally bringing down the U.S., and particularly destroying its Constitution and sovereignty as the means to bring the U.S. into world government. Technically, Obama is already "King (or President) of the World" because he now presides over the Security Council of the international body, the United Nations. Remember when the U.N. was brought into existence? So all of this has been planned and being worked towards incrementally for a very long time. If We, the People don't take this republic back very quickly, most of us, except for the elitists, are screwed. EVERYONE, stand up in defense of the supreme law of the land, the U.S. Constitution, and against all of this erection of a corporate fascist, militarized police and repression state in the U.S., and an enslavement and prison state for the entire world! That is what, and is all that, world government really is, though the powers behind it put a "good" face on it; but it's ALL a lie, and it will NOT be our savior or salvation from the problems in the world, though that is what most American and world citizens will be falsely convinced "it (supposedly) will be"! God save the republic of the United States, and the world, from all of this madness and insanity!

Having been a medical

Having been a medical corpsman in S.E.A. during the Viet Nam conflict and later working with vets at Wadsworth VA hospital I saw first hand the destructive effects of PTSD on patients and their families. Most of us only served one tour over there, that was enough to impact each of us tremendously for the rest of our lives. Multiple tours that our troops are pulling today is absolutely mind boggling to me. What is even more insane (than the wars themselves) is the the fact that the military historically never taken PTSD treatment seriously. To do so would require using most of their budget. It's all about the money and military priorities... cryin' shame!

EmeraldGreenSea Its no

EmeraldGreenSea Its no secret, the military does not represent American humanity. It does represent the BiMMETs Banks, insurers, Media pundits, Military, wealth redistribution purchasing Establishments that benefit from the rule of law: copyright or patent monopoly, state grant of franchise, and the like; and the Traders of paper empires (money, stocks, bonds, financial instruments and hidden credits/debits). The BIMMETs are mostly non human but the military does their bidding so its easy to see how a person with a conscious would be disturbed by a discovery of the truth.

Great sadness & indicative

Great sadness & indicative of the fact our immoral, illegal point of sending our military to various parts of the world by Bush, Cheney &al is borne by those who go fight. Obviously NOT daughtesr Bush/Cheney/ &al along with all the righteous Boehner Republicans --their children never fight or suffer--& I will include the young Home Depotchap 'wearing' his love god/country button--to show real love, go fight--did he serve his country in the military.? The answer to this is always a resounding 'NO'!!! Few in this country would object to taking arms & giving their life, or seeing their children die, to actually defend this country--but not dispatched out to foreign lands out of political grandioseness. 9/11 was indeed a tragedy--we got caught with our miitary guard down AROUND OUR OWN BORDERS, but then , for all our greatness, our mass destructiveness, a few lo-tech guys got overlucky in their ends. So the taliban on motorcycles keeps us tied up & bankrupt in foreign lands for decades while we CANNOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE 4 ALL..Get a grip america & start taking care of your own--from the inside, I am sure all the Repuclican supporting voters from NJ & VA are going to be the first family names to be enlisting & sending their kids to Fort Hood?

Use Occam's Razor and avoid

Use Occam's Razor and avoid wild guesses or specious explanations like PTSD. The straightforward explanation is really quite simple, but it is an unpalatable truth and cannot be mentioned in a public forum.

Well said S. Wolf Britain.

Well said S. Wolf Britain. Unfortunately, most people are brainwashed enough that they don't see the reality of how much the USA has changed for the worse in recent times.

To me it’s obvious to me

To me it’s obvious to me that S. Wolf Britain in his/her article P.S.>>>>> is either part of our problem or is completely out of touch with reality. Either one, it should have been removed by the moderator. When just a hand full of people in power are continuing this war that should have never been started in the first place by the last idiot President, why in the name of God do I feel like I am one of the few who continues to object?

Ball you can be--Choose

Ball you can be--Choose ARMY. And... choose TEXAS.

We have shooting rampages

We have shooting rampages all the time in this country. Seriously, what makes this one any different?

"Allahu Akhbar" was shouted

"Allahu Akhbar" was shouted by the gunman just before he began shooting, according to witnesses. He had also been disciplined for proselytizing while on the job.

It was an act of terror. It

It was an act of terror. It is totally disingenuous to say we don't know why he did it. What did he shout before he began shooting? Google it.

Good reporting. I'm able to

Good reporting. I'm able to communicate only sporadically with a few friends who are active military, but other than that, I never hear much about troop morale from an insider's point of view. It's an issue the mainstream media has very little interest in investigating; it seems they have a narrative to push . . .

I live in Los Angeles, a few

I live in Los Angeles, a few blocks away from the Veterans buildings. I can tell you PTSD does exist. There is a garden behind the psychiatric ward that has been created as one of the means to help into stabilizing released Vets from the ward. I have volunteered at that garden, and there is now a weekly farmers market there. Anyone who disbelieves PTSD should come visit. Seldom elsewhere, have I seen so much compassion from visitors, and admiration for the Vets. Wars will stop, they have to.

Excellent report! I'm old

Excellent report! I'm old now, almost 74 but I served in the Navy during the cold war, and I couldn't understand much of that, either. Unless we are fighting for what we believe, like in WWII, we are heading down a slippery slope, and all those soldiers and marines are coming home (well, most of them). and if VietNam was any indication, we will have yet another of underserved, under-cared-for, former military who will be standing out there begging for food. Can't we do better than that?

Excuse me, I meant the word

Excuse me, I meant the word "dissent", not "descent", in the "P.S." message above. Sorry.

Why doesn't OBMAMA lead the

Why doesn't OBMAMA lead the troops into battle? Is OBAMA a coward?

False generalization One or

False generalization One or a few crimes like the Ford Hood shooting do not indicate that our military has broken down. What percentage of soldiers follow orders and support their team? I'm not in favor of the wars. Far from it. But from Truthout I expect something more intellectually honest than what this article offers.

Volunteer army my butt. No

Volunteer army my butt. No one in his right mind would volunteer to go back for multiple tours unless he had a death wish. Damn political cronies and their buddy bankers need to be sent over as punishment for just one tour to atone for their treasonous behavior in bringing the world to it's knees. Bonuses still for CEOs while someone fights their bloody "Oil Wars". May God have mercy on their souls, and you too Mr. Obama for your gutless failure to bring our boys home.

This article is NOT a "false

This article is NOT a "false generalization...", and this article IS just one of many, by Dahr and others, which point a broader pattern of, and evidence that, the U.S. military breaking down. "Anonymous... Sat, 11/07/2009 - 01:23", you are not putting the pieces of the puzzle together; and, thus, you are simply, like others, making an unsupported and unfounded criticism of this article. Read more the context of Dahr's writings as a whole; put the pieces together as he and other have done; and then you should see "the forest for the trees", or see "the writing on the wall", and start to see the much broader pattern of what's really going on, or at least that larger part of the pattern that brings you (much?) closer to recognizing all or most of the broader picture.

[WITH CORRECTIONS:] This

[WITH CORRECTIONS:] This article is NOT a "false generalization...", and this article IS just one of many, by Dahr and others, which point to a broader pattern of, and evidence of, the U.S. military breakdown... "Anonymous... Sat, 11/07/2009 - 01:23", you are not putting the pieces of the puzzle together; and, thus, you are simply, like others, making an unsupported and unfounded criticism of this article. Read more of the context of Dahr's writings as a whole; put the pieces together as he and others have done; and then you should see "the forest for the trees", or see "the writing on the wall", and start to see the much broader pattern of what's really going on, or at least that larger part of the pattern that brings you (much?) closer to recognizing all or most of the bigger picture.

No, it doesn't indicate a

No, it doesn't indicate a breakdown in the military. It confirms a breakdown in our federal government with respect to how the civilian government manages the military. The military is the last place for political correctness and "progressive" attitudes. Anything that can degrade the cohesiveness of our military should not be allowed in our military - politically correct or not. If a person has or develops ties to our enemies, including Muslim ties, they should be discharged. If being gay degrades the cohesiveness, they should be discharged. It is ridiculous to put our military personnel's lives at greater risk than they already are just to be politically correct. Maybe we should put all of the liberals, those who insist on political correctness, and the disruptive people in a single unit whose job is to run in front of the real military as a shield for the enemy to use up their ammo on.

I do NOT hate muslims. I

I do NOT hate muslims. I do NOT in any way recommend mistreating them. I am NOT pro war either. HOWEVER: It is an absolute FACT that ANYONE who actually believes the hideous lies and rubbish that fills the koran and especially the hadith, IS UNFIT to be put in ANY position of responsibilty, especially the military. Inarguable FACT..... NO exceptions to this TRUTH. Belief in islam is serious mental handicap, not a mere 'religious' persuasion. When will we learn? It is the height of absurdity that we allow muslims in the military.

I believe this was an

I believe this was an example of RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE. Hasan's roots and muslim faith probably had little to do with it. I just wish he had had the guts just to do himself in or better yet turn himself into the authorities and tell them what he was planning.

The whole country is in

The whole country is in breakdown mode--the economy is in the hands of a Wall Street few, and Main Street is fuming. A quarter of our budget is spent on war and education,roads, health are suffering. And our legislators all work for the people who are ruining us!

" Belief in islam is serious

" Belief in islam is serious mental handicap, not a mere 'religious' persuasion." There is no "religious persuasion". There is only indoctrination, and for many who are indoctrinated, either by family tradition or other process, they are short-changed in their capacity for objective thought, etc. So-called spiritual experience has little to do with the indoctrinations which guide too many people. As such, as indoctrinated people, they are handicapped in full realization of their "god-given" intelligence. Sorry for the ironic description of human intelligence. So, I am saying that Christianity, Judaism, and all their Abrahamic derivatives (including the maligned Islam) share a common absurdity.

They pull this man down as

They pull this man down as though there are any good in those that sees non-American Non Allies as strange beings (Things). Hassan is a full bred full grown American who probably missed out on his patriotic dose as his human side got the better of him as he heard the stories of his patients. America will never admit to this. Good for the Muslims who thinks that America will handle them differently now. US like the occupying regime in Palestine always cry wolf then portray itself to be the victim despite its overwhelming violent intrusive military might.

Every day soldiers are

Every day soldiers are processed through facilities like the one in Fort Hood on their way to fight in illegal and unjust wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Many of them will go on to commit horrible crimes. Their actions will lead to the deaths of countless innocent civilians, people around the world with the misfortune to be born in an oil-rich country who have done no harm to anyone. When those soldiers come back they will be praised for their courage and sacrifice, even by those who have opposed these wars from the beginning. Meanwhile, any attack on US military or civilians will continue to be described as terrorism and universally condemned. Hasan is not a hero, he is simply a disturbed individual. But his actions are no more worthy of condemnation than the thousands of soldiers who follow orders and do as they are told.

What is being asked of our

What is being asked of our military and their families is obscene. These wars are wrong and pointless and unwinable. Let Kazakhstan do it! they have similar ethnic and cultural make-ups and they volunteered to do it on their UN page! But seriously the Great Gamers would never give up war profits for something so mundane as peace. they send the troops out again and again-from Korean Conflict until now. The fort Hood killings, coming on Guy Fawkes Day, a patsy in the Gunpowder Plot, is interesting in that when feelings and morale about this senseless war (and rightly so!) are at a dangerous low, a Muslim man-perfectly cast for a terrorist-opens fire and shoots an enormous number of people-with two hand held postols using armor piercing bullets-which must account for a lot of the doubling up between rounds in the two magazines and the numbers of victims. Meanwhile Jerome Corsi is already prepared with info that 'ties' him to some meeting where he was photo in the audience. Meanwhile counter rumor has it the shooter went to infamous Virginia Tech before joining army. Certainly this is a tragedy within a tragedy what ever way it comes out but if it is used to generate propaganda to make these wars that are costing all so much and so dearly more 'palatable' then you should really, really ,really think.

"Anonymous -- Sat,

"Anonymous -- Sat, 11/07/2009 - 15:53 & 17:32", what ignorant, hateful, threatening and racist things to say. It is far, "right-wing" extremists like you that give "conservatism" a very bad name. By what you're saying, the Constitution is supposedly "too politically correct" and must not be allowed in the military because it allegedly "degrades cohesiveness". What a traitor you are to the U.S. Constitution, the supreme law of the United States, and therefore a traitor to the U.S. itself, like most, ignorant, "Americans". But it sounds like you're a government employee, or a former government employee, who has been thoroughly washed of brains when it comes to the Constitution and equal rights. Many of the Muslims in the military are being used as patsies to carry off just such travesties in order to bring about more and more "Constitutionally-incorrect" and illegal control mechanisms and eradications of True Freedom(s), other unconstitutional things, as well as just such events to focus our attention where it should not be, and so we will give up our rights and freedoms without a fight, or without enough of a fight. You should direct your anger at the government AND the military, and NOT at "a minority" group, giving in to racism and everything that is evil, slimy, disgusting, treasonous, cowardly, pathetic, unAmerican and anti-American. But, you don't really understand what I just said, do you?

The breakdown in the U.S.

The breakdown in the U.S. military is training people to be psychopaths, and not really to carry out "defense", but to carry out aggression. Preemptive wars of aggression which are outlawed, including by the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. government and military have become almost entirely lawless, and they're supposedly above the law, WHEN NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, not the elitists at the "top" who run the world through the predatory international banking, system(s), etc., not their minions and puppets including presidents and vice-presidents, not politicians, not generals, NO ONE! The Constitution is still the supreme law of the land, or it isn't; and, if it is no longer, then we have no freedom anymore; the extreme mass-criminals at the "top" are just going to get much worse, more and more; freedoms are going to continue to be taken away more and more; and we are going to be enslaved more and more. That's what the opposite of freedom is; slavery. There may still be some outward trappings of "freedom", making it look like we still have it, lulling us further and further asleep, and leading us not to stand up for the preservation of our freedoms, as well as against ALL of that which threatens freedom, but it is enslavement nevertheless. Wake up and stand up for living Truly Free, or die slaves!

fear of Freedom?

fear of Freedom?

What we need is the whole

What we need is the whole truth of what happened with these killings: http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/11/the-press-coverage-at-ft-hood-sickening/