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The Anti-Stimulus Crowd Blows a Gasket

by: Dean Baker, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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Republicans have responded negatively to President Obama's proposed stimulus package. (Photo: Mark Wilson / Getty Images)

    The anti-stimulus crowd is getting desperate. The possibility that a young charismatic new president will push through an ambitious package that begins to set the economy right is truly terrifying to this crew. After all, if the economy begins to turn around and has largely recovered in three or four years, the Republican leadership can look forward to spending most of their careers in the political wilderness.

    President Obama will cakewalk to re-election, and even his designated successor will be able to benefit from the glow of his success. If the New Deal serves as precedent, Congress will stay in Democratic hands long past the time that the current leaders of the Republican Party start collecting their pensions.

    This explains the need that many Republicans feel to block the stimulus package. This desperation led them to fabricate a report from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), which purportedly showed that most of the stimulus would not be spent in 2009, or even in 2010. Based on this report, they argued that President Obama's stimulus would do little to boost the economy out of recession. The Republicans managed to get a story to this effect in The Washington Post, in addition to extensive coverage in other major news outlets.

    The only problem is that there was no CBO report. The CBO had done some very preliminary analysis of a package that was loosely modeled on a portion of President Obama's program. This preliminary analysis was done at the request of members of Congress to give them what was available at the time. It was not a full analysis that had gone through the CBO's normal review process, and was not posted on its web site where it could be assessed by budget analysts and the general public.

    In short, this analysis was clearly not ready for prime time. But, when you're as desperate as the Republican leadership, you take what you can get. Unfortunately, many in the media got taken by this ploy and now have egg on their face as well.

    The CBO will produce an analysis this week that examines the most recent version of the full stimulus bill. This analysis will provide a much more serious basis for assessing the proposals than the CBO "report" invented by the Republican leadership. It will provide a full analysis of the proposal, including an explanation of the methodology that the CBO used in its calculations.

    In this respect, it is important to caution against one possible limitation of the CBO methodology. The CBO typically relies on rules of thumb in calculating spendout rates for types of projects.

    For example, as a rule of thumb, the spending for highways in the first year after an appropriation may be just a small percentage of the total cost of the highway, with spending in the second year being a little bit higher. It takes time to plan a highway and to bid out contracts. Based on analysis of the time between the passage of appropriations and the actual spending, the CBO can project the time period over which a wide range of appropriations will actually be spent.

    However, these rules of thumbs are likely to understate the spendout rate for the projects chosen as part of the stimulus package. These projects are being selected specifically because they are ready to go, with plans already in hand and contracts ready to be submitted for bids.

    Furthermore, because of the severity of the economic downturn, contractors are likely to be able to move much more quickly than would usually be the case. Typically, contractors will have to find time to fit a government project in their queue of other work. With the sharp downturn in the construction sector, there are likely to be plenty of contractors who are ready to move almost immediately after a contract is signed.

    Finally, the bill threatens state and local governments with the loss of funding if they do not move quickly to spend any money appropriated. For these reasons, the CBO's rules of thumb on spendout rates may substantially understate the amount of spending that will be carried through in the next two years.

    The Republicans have raised a serious issue in questioning the rate at which the stimulus will be spent. The plan should be scrutinized to determine if there are not ways to get money into the economy more quickly. But this effort requires looking at evidence and data, not invented CBO reports.

  

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Dean Baker is the Co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. CEPR's Jobs Byte is published each month upon release of the Bureau of Labor Statistics' employment report.

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The stimulus as proposed is

The stimulus as proposed is upside down. Spending on infrastructure needs to be prioritized over tax cuts. When you are unemployed, the tax rate is the least of your worries.

Stimulus = Borrow, Spend,

Stimulus = Borrow, Spend, Consume. As usual, Dean Baker tries to disguise his support of consumerist capitalism by portraying opponents of the "stimulus" as anti-Obama. Some opponents might be playing politics, but many of us realize that you can't solve debt problems caused by capitalist greed and consumption by creating more debt to fuel more capitalist greed and consumption. We don't need more highways. We need more bikeways. We don't need more fake jobs funded by borrowed money doled out by government. The current economuc crisis is the last chance humans have to totally reorient the world economy to ecoMarxism and sustainability rather than the borrow/spend/consume model that has failed economically and culturally while also causing ecocide. Baker's thinking is old school, capitalist and bankrupt.

It is well past time for the

It is well past time for the republican party to enter the 21 century and actually do something for their main street constituents. They have been rehashing the same old crap in a different package for so long, it looks like the last original idea they had came from Teddy Roosevelt. How about this; they jump on board the New New Deal Bandwagon, endorse it and take part credit for it. It beats standing on the sidelines while the parade runs over them while they wave the "Tax Cuts-Not Socialism" flag--particularly after Bush endorsed socializing Wall Street losses and letting the free market gains go to the perps.

Borrowing money to give tax

Borrowing money to give tax cuts is not good public policy. This is like giving the banks taxpayer bailouts and then watch as the banks hand out dividends to shareholders and bonuses to those who failed us. Except in a few cases of hardship (those near the poverty line, not just below $250,000), these funds should be spent putting people to work building the real infrastructure we need. We must Install massive solar farms and home solar installations, wind farms, bikeways instead of carways (highways), mass transit instead of lone transit. We should place a special focus on vastly improving our energy efficiency - insulating and other energy efficiency improvements related to homes and buildings. There are tens of millions of buildings in need of this and few million jobs just waiting to be filled to make this happen.

"The stimulus as proposed is

"The stimulus as proposed is upside down. Spending on infrastructure needs to be prioritized over tax cuts. When you are unemployed, the tax rate is the least of your worries." I completely agree with the above. I understand that Obama is trying to build a bi-partisan coalition, but the Republicans won't play. He will have to fight them every inch of the way, and the first fight he must win is the elimination of tax cuts from the stimulus package. That money needs to get into the economy as soon as possible. The longer the Republicans obstruct, the more blame they will bring down on their party. It is a lose - lose proposition.

THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PUT

THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

Is anyone else desperately

Is anyone else desperately weary of the Republican mindset that anything that isn't their idea should be systematically and vigorously denounced? It's high time Republicans find common ground with the Obama administration, starting with what's good for all of society, not just a privileged few. Multi-partisan results will do more to restore voter confidence in Republicans than their usual obfuscation and naysaying.

This particular gov't.

This particular gov't. stimulus is an opportunity to invest in The New Apollo Program, which focuses on 21st century infrastructure, instead of 20th century infrastructure. It's focus on a clean energy economy and green jobs in the form of new wind, solar, biofuel, and other sustainable infrastructure must not be allowed to be drowned out by those who would have us continue our wasteful, polluting ways for the benefit of a few vested interests. Americans must demand a new approach, and not wait for Congress or NGOs to do all the work. Start by calling your reps., but active advocacy of this is needed to jumpstart a new clean economy. NOW is the time.

The whole process could be

The whole process could be sped up significantly by just 'giving' the contracts to Halliburton. In that way all the money could be spent in, say, two or three months. Of course, not much would actually get done, and what did get done would be of inferior quality, but at least it would, hopefully, shut the Republicans up. That alone almost makes it worthwhile.

Stimulus = Borrow, Spend, By

Stimulus = Borrow, Spend, By David Nice thoughts, David, but time is of the essence. Bike-paths and the like are wonderful ideas but would not speed things along. We need HELP NOW!

We have to get our mindsets

We have to get our mindsets beyond this recession. The lion's share of Obama's stimulus plan ought to be to bring the nation into the 21st century, for the long haul, to correct for thirty years of neglect. The most critical problems facing the world are climate change and, ironically, depletion of the fuels that have caused it, except for coal, which unfortunately is in abundant supply. The stimulus must go beyond simply putting us back on track with mindless consumerism, which ultimately bankrupts us. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case, as there seems very little beyond Republican tax breaks and repairing sewer pipes in this thing.

The charismatic new

The charismatic new president is doomed out of the gate, regardless of RepubliCON or DemocRAT political squabbling. The simple fact of the matter is that the enormity of debt, most of it worth much less than face value, is so much greater than the amount of capital available to absorb it. Hence, both parties sign on for an orgy of fiat money creation out of thin air. This, in turn, will simply devalue the US dollar to the point of being nearly worthless, which in turn will gut the buying power of all the SS recipients, pensioners, IRA victims, etc. It is amazing that the entire collective body of Congress, the Senate and all the high paid drones and shysters cannot see where this is going. For those of you that think the financial crisis just "happened" because of mortgage default, consider the possibility that it is being engineered to produce a desired result. Chaos and collapse are very useful tools in the arsenal of the international banking elite, and years of fine tuning the procedure in developing countries has given them the confidence to attempt to pull off their biggest heist. Seems to be working so far.

There are two reaons to

There are two reaons to stress infrastructure over tax cuts in the stimulus package. One was mentioned by a poster above; tax cuts don't help unemployed people since they're not paying taxes. The other is that our infrastructure actually really needs repair and maintenance. Bridges and water and sewer mains especially have been in dire need for years. Added to additions to mass transit and the electric grid there are many ways to positively inject money into the economy that would be real investment, not a handout. Even if you don't like dams and bridges, you cannot deny that Hoover Dam, Grand Coulee Dam, the TVA, the SF Oakland Bay Bridge, etc. etc. are paying dividends to this day.

Government by the rich has

Government by the rich has its share of problems. You never know when they're crying wolf, whether you can trust them or not and whether they're trying to fleece you. It seems this stimulus package is an honest attempt to create some jobs. As Keynes used to say: to pay some men to dig a hole and others to fill it up puts money in people's pockets so they can buy, buy, buy. Which is what's needed. But the banks are forever and are forever robbing you and me. Merrill and Lynch paid 4 billion in bonuses after losing money? Huh? Can I get such a deal? And whose money is it, after all?--suckers like you and me who bought a house or a 401K. It seems the biggest employers now are the military and Wal-Mart. Not good. We need a whole new ballgame where the rich don't rule!

Unless the plan was to

Unless the plan was to completely tank the economy, the Republicans need to realize they have utterly failed the American people, and nearly destroyed this country in the process. The time of the haters and naysayers is over. They need to turn around and climb aboard or step aside and let the people who know how to clean up the mess they've made step to the front and get the job done. This country is finally going to move forward again, with them or without them.

GOP = Getting Over on People

GOP = Getting Over on People for 150 years.

I don't know about the rest

I don't know about the rest of you , but I am disturbed at all this quibbling about how to handle this stimulus. With all due respect to President Obama, this is taking too long. I agree with "Michael" and "radlineg". The Green economy is the way to go, and the "Repugs" need to get out of the way. Old fashioned consumerism is has poisoned this planet. If we have infrastructure that needs fixing, let's do it and put people back to work NOW. Reducing taxes takes too long, and is meaningless if you don't have a job. If a person has a broken leg they need a cast, not a new pair of shoes. Let's fix what we have and what people need now.

The Republicans are not

The Republicans are not Pro-America, they are Pro-Lets-Stay-Greedy-And-Get-Wealthier like we have for the past eight years.

WhenPresident B.OB'S plan

WhenPresident B.OB'S plan ,works out BYE BYE GOP for a long time..Which is great. ( The bad actors will have faded away) But the corollary is.... non cooperation from those people. Let's Blog this GOP loser attitude across the country and around the world...with names attached.. this boy will certainly be listing every one being uncooperative in the face of national crisis(we know a few already) and passing those names on to my friends and neighbors...all over the fifty,and around the planet... .....Did I hear ...YES WE.....? PS....(.Washington Post) When will the classical press check out their stories before printing garbage or propaganda...there was a time when honest journalists double looked and even triple checked the sources. ...Now, it seems truth is not the criteria...The story, has now become the rule...no matter whence it emanates...

Well I'm not sure about all

Well I'm not sure about all the stimulus spending, it's scary to put our children in that much debt but I guess it's much better than the massive amount that we just dumped away on a needless war and to the private banks. But here are two things that should be added to the stimulus package. 1- Share the work- Establish the 30 hr workweek across the nation, with all overtime as double time. That will solve the unemployment problem by making a 25% increased demand for man-hours. That demand will drive wages up slightly and make up for individuals lost income. At the same time the improved productivity of having 25% more people sharing the same workload, and increased motivation and attitudes of employees, will offset the costs to employers and create a more level playing field. 2-Give people who don't make much a chance to afford a home by making the tax base fair- At todays cost of living, an individual supporting his or herself making under 25,000 a year, or a couple making under 35,000 combined, or a family of 4 making under 45,000 combined should not pay any taxes at all or even have to file. Anybody who thinks that’s not fair does not remember what it’s like to start out or to actually earn your living the hard and honorable way.

"The plan should be

"The plan should be scrutinized to determine if there are not ways to get money into the economy more quickly. " There is a way to get money into the economy VERY quickly. Nationalize the banks and prohibit the scam of fractional reserve banking. The US gov't must reassert it's sovereign right to issue money for this country and resume issuing interest free treasure backed money which can then be loaned to business and spent into circulation immediately. What really requires scrutiny is why we haven't been issuing our own interest-free US money for most of the last hundred years. More info: www.webofdebt.com

The real reason the

The real reason the "anti-stimulus crowd" is anti-stimulus has been articulated loud and clear by one of their cult-leading brainwarpers, that big fat idiot drug addict known as Rush Limbaugh: "I hope he (Obama) fails." Country First, eh?

Let's face reality here.

Let's face reality here. BOTH parties are in the pay of fascist corporations. Petitioning the government is a fool's game. Street protests is nothing more than theater. Speaking truth to power is futile: they already know the truth. Those who advocate getting rid of the for-profit corporation known as the Fed, and eliminating the scam of fractional reserve banking are on the right track. Though the corporate media continually characterize price increases as inflation, that is not inflation, but only the result of inflation, the dilution of our money's value by the printing/issuing of even more dollars making each dollar worth less, until it all becomes nearly worthless. There is plenty of money for wars that enrich the already wealthy, with better than 50% of our taxes propping up arms manufacturers and support over 750 military outposts around the globe. There's plenty of money for oil corporations making record profits, the private tyrannies called corporations that demand insulation from the vaunted "free market'. Cuts of at least 50% of the Pentagon budget would do the trick, without affect our defense abilities one whit. " [Nearly 70% of the military budget] is to provide men and weapons to fight in foreign countries in support of our allies and friends and for offensive operations in Third World countries .. Another big chunk of the defense budget is the 20% allocated for our offensive nuclear force of bombers, missiles, and submarines whose job it is to carry nuclear weapons to the Soviet Union... Actual defense of the United States costs about 10% of the military budget and is the least expensive function performed by the Pentagon... " Rear Admiral Gene LaRoque, U.S. Navy retired

Why can there not be a U.S.

Why can there not be a U.S. referendum whereby we can dump all these ancient politicians, both Republican as well as Democrats and get some young enthusiastic intelligent people, unbridled by the upclose stink of the lobbyists? Why oh why cannot we make these existing greedy bastards in the Senate and House vote for the "common folks" and for once do something admirable and that is to provide health care to everyone in the country? F.....g greed!!

...and so the Greedy

...and so the Greedy Obstructionist PAC-whores throw their bodies in front of any effort to move forward. Truth has never been much of a problem for these folks; they've shown time and time again that if the truth doesn't support whatever version of political fiction they're currently promoting, they have no problem jettisoning the truth as unwanted baggage. Let's all take names so that in the next round of congressional elections we can apply the proper pedal extremities to the requisite glutei maximi ...

Road and infrastructure will

Road and infrastructure will only help if they make the country more productive, that is save money or produce more. So if they are an investment then they can help - and not cost future generations, but if they are digging and filling holes then we will be in a deeper hole. I agree that more 20th century suburban sprawl leading to more shopping malls is a dead end. We should be thinking of a new paradigm for communities - not based on McMansions on 5 acre miniranchetts, but more on a village plan where people could actually walk and ride bike to work, school and shop. We all need to push for what we want and not just accept more blacktop as a solution. Isn't it funny that to corporatist have imagined that if the economy turned sour that they somehow would be immune?

Stimulate Nature's health

Stimulate Nature's health now. It is easy to use old ideas which have centralized wealth but it won't work because the actual problem is being ignored. Corporate consumerism is failing because it always depended on the free and uncounted gifts of Mother Nature. Now the gifts are gone and humans will need to grow up and face the facts of life. It is impossible for all humanity to work hard forty hours a week making consumer goods for corporate profits. Justice with Nature and among people requires jobs be apportioned among us all so that everyone has good health, shelter, education, and the freedom to enjoy this beautiful planet.

Someone posted that the

Someone posted that the Repugs need to put up or shut up. They did: more tax cuts, especially for the wealthy. Nothing new there. I just hope that Pelosi and Reid stick to what's more or less already in this bill (though way more should have gone to Amtrak). The Repugs can make all the protests and get all the TV face time they want. This bill should pass soon, and I would hope that all Repug districts get punished by not getting any of this stimulus money. Screw them!

Edgeofnowhere and LHC = spot

Edgeofnowhere and LHC = spot on. Get the monetary system out of the hands of the wealthy elite.

Earth to G(reedy),

Earth to G(reedy), O(bstructionist),P(hilistines): You couldn't lead You refuse to follow, so Get out of the way. Get on board or be prepared to walk ...

The idea of a stimulus

The idea of a stimulus package to revive the economy by government spending is based on the Kenesian economic model. Unfortunately, this model was discredited by Friedman and other world class economists in the 1970's when President Carter's policies resulted in stagflation. Even FDR's massive spending did not get us out of the depression in the 1930's, but it did extend it until WWII. I'm afraid that if Obama's stimulus plan is implemented, in a years time we'll have double digit inflation with massive unemployment. It would be better if the government did nothing at all.

Milton Friedman, et.al. are

Milton Friedman, et.al. are world class economists alright, World Depression Class. Unless one reads only the Wall Street Journal's editorial page, these free trade and free market policies were pushed down the throats of 95% of the world's human population (and all other form of life) for 35 years now. And what is the measurable outcome of this smart, mad, invisible hand, no tax nonsense, this unsustainable economic voodoo Ponzi scheme? Has the current 'bad' news hit home anywhere in the MBA ownership class universe? How do economists explain the present economic and industrial implosion, the impending collapse of the planet's natural life sustaining systems, monopolies built upon unfettered capitalism and anti-democratic free trade policies as an unexpected accident? These dire outcomes matter beyond boardrooms and will be with us for many, many years to come. Mr. Friedman's wishful fantasy has been a barely mitigated disaster for the vast majority of workers, our children, our families, our societies and the planet. This is Disaster Capitalism with a capital DC, and Freidman's Wall Street and Bush's Washington are at it's epicenter.

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At 68 yrs old, I have never

At 68 yrs old, I have never seen such stupidity in government as I have now, and through the years I have seen some. Now that the Demorats have taken control, our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will be trying to pay for what this so called stimulus bill will cause this country. spend, Spend, Spend, that's what the demorats are best known for and this is just a bigger example. I consider the Demorats to be anti American.

are you all oblivious to the

are you all oblivious to the fact that we have an invisible monetary government? check out this quote from Charles Lindbergh Senior.>>> - "This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the president signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary power will be legalized. The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill." 1913 in reference to the Federal Reserve act and the Federal Income Tax, signed by Woodrow Wilson. Wilson later said that our great industrial nation was now controlled by it's system of credit, and this system of credit is privately concentrated, therefore the activities of the nation and all it's people are in the hands of a few powerful men.

Here is the quote from

Here is the quote from Lincoln, about the financiers. "The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace, and conspire against it in times of adversity, it is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. I see in the near future a crises approaching, that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will undoubtedly prolong it's reign, by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln, in reference to the instigators of the central bank for a hundred years now the bankers have been collecting our income tax. they are about to bring an end of the united states of america, they are igniting a Global Depression on purpose, so that they may emerge the rulers of us all.