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GOP May Vote No, but Economists Back Obama Stimulus

by: Kevin G. Hall  |  McClatchy Newspapers

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While many economists have backed President Obama's stimulus plan, members of the GOP remain opposed to passing the package. (Photo: Getty Images)

    Washington - Economists think the stimulus plan that the House of Representatives will vote on Wednesday, while far from perfect, will help stimulate the moribund U.S. economy.

    There's no panacea for what ails the economy. A stimulus plan will work only in combination with other actions, such as more aid to the banking system to spark lending and boost consumer confidence, and the implementation of any plan will be as important as what's in it.

    However, most leading economists who are experienced in public policy generally favor the stimulus plan that the House is considering because through it the government will step up spending at a time when private-sector spending has fallen off sharply.

    Some economists are ideologically opposed to any such massive government plan. The Cato Institute, a libertarian research center, has organized a list of dozens of academic economists who oppose the plan, urging instead tax cuts and smaller government, in favor of free markets and lower taxes over big government activities. Cato will advertise its list in coming days. However, that isn't where the balance of expert opinion comes down today.

    The House legislation would erect four pillars of economic stimulus. It would provide income support to the poor and recently unemployed, distribute aid to state governments, seek relatively quick employment gains through public works spending and aim to spark consumer and business spending through targeted tax cuts.

    "I think it's a reasonably well-designed package," said Mark Zandi, the chief economist for forecaster Moody's Economy.com and a former adviser to the presidential campaign of Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain.

    The key to the plan's success won't be its design, but its implementation, he cautioned, particularly the public works spending on roads, schools, ports and military bases.

    "It runs the risk of turning into pork projects that are done more for political than economic reasons, but if it is well managed and run, it could" do much good, said Zandi, who's been a frequent expert witness before Congress as lawmakers drafted competing plans.

    House Republicans have lampooned some modest spending provisions in the package that have little to do with stimulating the economy, but those measures account for only a small portion of the money.

    Some critics warn that "Buy America" provisions directing road projects to use U.S.-made steel and concrete may raise costs to taxpayers. Jim Owens, the chief executive officer of Caterpillar Inc., whose company is the world's largest maker of bulldozers, told CNBC television on Monday that Buy America provisions would force him to fire workers because of increased project costs.

    On Monday, Caterpillar, based in Peoria, Ill., announced that it would eliminate 20,000 jobs.

    A related danger is that such nationalistic policies could encourage foreign governments to imitate them. That would hurt U.S. exporters such as Caterpillar and could further shrink global trade, one of the mistakes that nations made during the Great Depression of the 1930s.

    The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, in an analysis released Monday and in congressional testimony Tuesday, said that the Democratic stimulus plan generally would get government money into the economy quickly, with 65 percent of it spent by October 2010.

    The CBO, however, offered a frank warning that the deluge of money being made available for public works programs could overwhelm federal, state and local agencies. It said history suggested that there was a lag between when funding was authorized and when it was spent.

    "Based on such experiences, CBO expects that federal agencies, along with states and other recipients of that funding, would find it difficult to properly manage and oversee a rapid expansion of existing programs so as to expend the added funds as quickly as they expend the resources provided for their ongoing programs," the agency said.

    Testifying before the Senate Budget Committee on Monday, a former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve said that the provisions to aid state governments would help prevent a bad situation from turning worse.

    "Aiding states will prevent them from taking actions to balance their budget - cutting spending and raising taxes - that will make the recession worse," said Alice Rivlin, a former Fed governor and a prominent economist with the center-left research center The Brookings Institution. Most state constitutions require budgets to be balanced.

    Private-sector economists who support the stimulus plan say that it could be made better, and, yes, bigger.

    "I would make the package bigger... increase the package to over $1 trillion," Zandi said.

    One change, he said, could be to take the $7,500 tax credit being proposed for home purchases by first-time buyers and apply it to all home purchases, payable at closing. This would help reverse the deep slide in the national housing market.

    Zandi also proposes a bigger payroll-tax holiday, which would provide temporary relief for workers and their employers, getting more cash into the economy.

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This is supposed to be a

This is supposed to be a "open minded" news service that reports unbiased news? "However, that isn't where the balance of expert opinion comes down today." and the balance of the article all are biased to only listen to "most leading economists who are experienced in public policy". Excuse me but this is the problem. We have been following their advice for too many years. No excuse me, too many decades. Thru Democratic and Republican administrations. They are Keynesian economists who have pushed this debt based growth that is now imploding on us all. Keynesian economics is a giant Ponzi scheme along with the Federal Reserve that requires continued growth, expanding populations and individual incomes. Just like Mr. Madoff's scheme it is coming unglued. The Cato institute, the Mises Institute all are looking for a "Free Market" like the Founders envisioned for this country. With the advent of the Fed and all the other controls imposed on the economy by the Politicians looking to line their pockets and that of their friends in the banking industry, the market for the last century has been anything but "Free". The President has spoken. Enough! Its time for a change. He is right. We need to drop Keynesian Economics, and move to Austrian Economics and a Free Market.

Folks, there ain`t one of em

Folks, there ain`t one of em gonna take their responsibility seriously so taking a page from their own bible we have to"pass the buck" retailers and consumers unite and send all unpaid debts and charges from November through current to these childish sore LOSERS in Congress and in collection agency fashion tell them they have so many days to pay or prepare to be charged with restraint of trade and inciting oppression through harboring economic strife, I guarantee we clog every court in the land by dumping all retail and consumer debt squarely onto Pelosi & Reid`s entire foray of colleagues shoulders you`ll see sparks off their heels from how fast they do the job when THEIR wallets are on the line!

It was Bubba Clinton who

It was Bubba Clinton who promoted and passed Nafta, and Daddy Bush who had convinced him what a good deal this was. It led to the destruction of our industrial base, and a money making machine for Walmart and others, but not for the working classes. A reason should be made from the White House as to why Bubba Clinton is receiving tens of millions of dollars from Foreign governments. I look at it as a pay-off for undisclosed reasons. A stimulus bill is really not part of capitalism, but a diversionary tactic to keep the serfs happy for a while. In other words keep the Wolf away from the door

It is more than telling when

It is more than telling when the Republican Party cares more about posturing than about the state of the Union. It was perfectly fine to throw billions of dollars at bankers with no strings just a few weeks ago, but a travesty of incompetent thought on the part of the President, the Democrat party and Mr. Obama's key economic advisors to direct funds where they might actually do some good. It makes my head hurt to listen to the moronic bleatings of Bhonner and Co. Jesus, whom the Republicans so frequently refer to as their personal saviour, weeps at the hypocracy.

The Stimulus is a simple way

The Stimulus is a simple way of keeping the Wolf away from the door. A diversionary tactic to keep the serfs happy, and not asking to many questions. The White House owes it to us to explain how the selling-out of our industrial base by Bubba Clinton and the Bush Family has helped the working classes in this country. After all the base of the Democratic party was the working classes. The only people who gained financially by this sell out are Walmart and Bubba Clinton who is recieving tens of millions of dollars from Foreign governments. We need an explanation from the White House now, before the Stimulus.

Some economists close eyes

Some economists close eyes and minds to ecological collapse. Many economists have faith that corporate consumerism will be able to grow forever without environmental harm. Smart economists ponder the seemingly impossible reality of an economy where nine billion people working to earn a decent living don't destroy the planet.

No Dave, you have your

No Dave, you have your econcomists wrong. It's Keynes who has been ignored by the right and the "trickle down" supply-side" economics of Milton Friedman and the Republicans since Reagan that got us into this mess. It's the right's plan now to confuse the issue (as you're attempting to do), to say that it's Keynes, to say that Hoover was the one who used Government spending to get us into the depression, to insist that tax cuts and only tax cuts are the way out. Such a revision of history and an inversion of facts is part and parcel to the way this country has been run for the last 8 years. Thank God that's over. AD

The Republicans' unified

The Republicans' unified opposition to this crucial stimulus bill underlines the importance of throwing out as many Republicans from government as possible – two, four and six years from now – until they go the way of the Whigs and the Bull Moose Party. They are, in fact, un-American. Remember that part of the Constitution about promoting the general welfare? When the hell have they ever done that? The GOP is a party of fascists, religious fanatics and white supremicists. Is there really a place for them in the United States of America? I say no.

I never understood

I never understood republican logic. They all voted against the package. Well, if it fails, who will be blamed for not cooperating? If it works, they will be disenfranchised altogether! Maybe this is why they don't lead anymore. Look for them trying to trip it all up. Just to make themselves look good. I say they are IMPs! Image, Money, Power. And that is all they care about.

Hey "another Dave", I think

Hey "another Dave", I think Wikipedia disagrees with you. According to them Mr. Keynes "He advocated interventionist government policy". That is not Free Market economics. He was into control. That is the problem. Hey, I am learning a lot of new stuff in this last year and a half, since trying to understand what is going on. I lived too much of my life "letting others think for me". I was too busy trying to hold down a job and feed my family. Now I am reading, listening and talking to lots of folks to learn the truth. As for the Fed., I suggest you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island". I am working on it as it is long. Also look at "Overview of America". That is a video, google it. Lastly a real eye opener for todays economic picture google "Crash Course" by Chris Martenson. "Another Dave", if you have good sources of info I would appreciate your sharing. The more we all learn, the safer this Republic will be. Liberty for All.