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Intelligence Made It Clear Saddam Was Not a Threat, Diplomat Tells MPs

by: David Hencke  |  The Guardian UK

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Carne Ross, a former British diplomat, testified before a special government committee investigating the invasion of Iraq that a government "paper trail" exists that could reveal new information about the legality of the invasion. (Photo: Filip Horvat / The New York Times)

    Government left "paper trail" in build-up to war. More facts still to come to light, says former envoy.

    A former diplomat at the centre of events in the run-up to the Iraq war revealed yesterday that the government has a "paper trail" that could reveal new information about the legality of the invasion.

    Carne Ross, who was a first secretary at the United Nations in New York for the Foreign Office until 2004, told MPs: "A lot of facts about the run-up to this war have yet to come to light which should come to light and which the public deserves to know." There were also assessments by the joint intelligence committee which had not been disclosed, Ross told the Commons public administration select committee.

    He told the inquiry that the intelligence made it "very clear" that Saddam Hussein did not pose a significant threat to the UK, as was being claimed at the time by ministers, and that tougher enforcement of sanctions could have brought his regime down.

    He said he tried to inform ministers about his misgivings over the developing momentum towards war, taking them aside during their visits to New York or having brief conversations in their car to the airport.

    But he said he was aware that speaking out too often or too openly - even in internal debates - about his concerns about the government's policy direction would damage his career by winning him a reputation as a "naive troublemaker".

    Ross's evidence, by video link from New York, came days after Jack Straw, who was foreign secretary at the time, used the first ministerial veto under the freedom of information act to ban the release of cabinet minutes on the decision to go to war.

    "I feel very strongly that there has still not been proper accountability and scrutiny into what happened in Iraq," Ross said.

    "There should be a full public inquiry or parliamentary inquiry into the decision-making that took place. Hutton and Butler are by no means sufficient to that purpose and it is disgraceful that the government pretends that they are... if we had those systems of accountability and scrutiny then leaking and other more aberration behaviour from civil servants would be less necessary."

    He was one of four "whistleblowers" who yesterday gave evidence to the committee.

    They also included Katharine Gun, a former GCHQ translator who revealed the organisation was tapping phones of countries that were against the Iraq war; Brian Jones, the most senior expert on chemical weapons at the Defence Intelligence Staff; and Derek Pasquill, a former Foreign Office official who leaked documents about rendition and Muslim groups who were hostile to the UK receiving government money.

    Jones and Ross never leaked any information to the press. Jones instead complained to his superior that he thought the intelligence dossier on weapons of mass destruction was being exaggerated but was told that there was "one secret piece of information which could not be shared with [him]" because it was too sensitive.

    He told MPs that when the WMD dossier was published and he saw the difference between the foreword by the prime minister and the contents he "thought the intelligence services were going to be crucified".

    But he instead he found that most MPs, with a few exceptions, supported the government. "I feel that you gentlemen [the MPs] have been either deliberately or accidentally misled and these incidents have not been followed up. I think that there has been a great laxity and that won't encourage people like me or my colleagues to come to you," he said.

    Tony Wright, the chairman of the committee, agreed with the allegation. "I think you are absolutely right to castigate parliament, which I think has behaved abysmally in this matter - endless bleating about the need for an inquiry but a complete failure to insist upon one," he said.

    Gordon Brown has promised to look at an inquiry after all the troops come home from Iraq.

  

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No inquiries until the

No inquiries until the damage is complete, please! We have not reached our quota of the dead.

Please, please, please get

Please, please, please get this information out on both sides of the Atlantic!!

Go along to get along is

Go along to get along is strong influencer of behavior, it's too bad. Will this ever change or will those in power push unwise policies and stiffle dissent always?

We already had this paper

We already had this paper trail, it's called the newspapers. Mr. Ross is being careful still, he hasn't revealed anything we don't already know. The big question is this. Since we now prosecute people who defend they're shores against our aggressions, what if the countries such as Iraq win the right to sue US for the damage of this ill begotten misadventure? Above all thigs, we need to assure that this can never happen again. Examples need to be set. We should prosecute this into oblivion. No matter how big they are, yes they can fall! Like AIG, we can't afford to let it stand.

For those who care to read

For those who care to read the fine details get the book Spiders Web, The secret history of how the White House illegally armed Iraq. There are plenty of pictures of the people involved and the Bank of Italy was the front for supplying Saddam during his war with Iran.

"speaking out too often or

"speaking out too often or too openly ... would damage his career..." It's sad how many whistle blowers come out to blow when it's too late. If only we had more insiders with the courage to put a career on the line or (like Col. Ann Wright) walk away from a career when it could actually make a difference!

Corpse continues to fester,

Corpse continues to fester, giving off stench. Blair is useful idiot for even bigger useful idiot Bush and accessory war criminal. A "naive troublemaker" fails to appreciate that globally corrupt Anglo-American cabal is status quo sustained by acquiescence of frightened middle functionaries with delusions of truth, justice, decency. How globally sad. Imam Khomeni within this week says to Obama, "You want to change US-Iran relationship? First admit the horrible things US has done to us and to the entire Muslim world." Ah, but that would be "looking back."

Dishonest Government. (Oops,

Dishonest Government. (Oops, guess I am being redundant). Yes, this ALL needs to become public information and people who made conscious decisions to lead our young men into death should be held accountable. Those with no sons in the battle find it too easy to send others there. --- We need to return to a more honest form of governing and making this information PUBLIC is a good way to send a message to current "political leaders" (oops, an oxymoron) that they are also being held accountable.

What will we do with

What will we do with ourselves once we get entirely beyond deception of every kind?

Thank goodness we have

Thank goodness we have courageous people in both the UK and US willing to speak out! We need to follow up on this, as crimes unpunished will be repeated. The American and British people are not children who need to be told lies "for our own good." Our public officials need to know that they will be held accountable. No one is above the law, not a UK prime minister or a US president.

All of us "peasants" knew

All of us "peasants" knew this war was illegal. Bush's lies were transparent and hypocritical. We also know that there were many on the "inside" that could have brought to light all of these lies, but they had a "career" to save, and to he!! with all those who were going to die, they had a mortgage to pay! So now we have tens of thousands of Americans and her allies boys dead, millions of Iraqis and Afghans, DU raging around the Middle East, but it's okie-dokie but those that could have stopped it saved their careers. Whew boy, aren't we a bunch of heroes. And G. Brown is going to "look at an inquiry AFTER all the troops come home". Oh boy. He may look, but that's what got us all into this mess in the first place. They just "looked". And one more thing, Brownie, how long before the troops come home? Tomorrow? Next year? Next decade? Ever?

All of this makes Dr Kelly's

All of this makes Dr Kelly's "suicide" look even more convenient and highly suspicious, as many people thought at the time.

It has often been repeated

It has often been repeated but here it is again. "Eisenhower" :Beware of the military industrial complex". Our governments are in the pay of the above complex. "Cherchez l'argent"

"Why, of course, the people

"Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Reich Marshall Hermann Goering

I worked in congress. Why

I worked in congress. Why now are these goodfellas coming forward. There noses were a deeper brown that James until the new administration. In my neighborhood, these wusses would not have stood. Now, they further sicken me by their belated contrition. Go...get thee behind me, as far behind as your leader is and was.

Time to come out and finally

Time to come out and finally reveal the truth about this horrific war crime known as the invasion of Iraq, the greatest fallacy to befall humanity since the Holocaust. The fear of the Bush underworld is waning at least temporarily now with the election of the moderate Obama and people now can freely speak for the first time without the danger of being targeted by the Bush terror network. In fact people must come forward now, our future as a democratic society depends on it.

It will be a frosty Friday

It will be a frosty Friday in July when Bush and his poodle..Blair... along with their corrupt administrations are held accountable for the horrifc destruction of Iraq..the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, the barbaric treatment of so-called POWs routinely rounded up and tortured, and the rape of Iraqi women by the 'bringers of equaliy and freedom' It makes me sick to see the arrogance of these crooks and murderers in the U.S. as they work to destroy the fledging Obama government. Such evil is allowed to fester and poison everything they touch. The suffering people of Iraq have had to pay an enormous price for the misadventures of the most foul the western world has to offer. I don't expect any legal action or apologies to come any time soon.

While we're castigating the

While we're castigating the whistleblowers for not coming out sooner, let's ask ourselves how many times we didn't write that letter to the newspaper, or speak out in church, or the Rotary Club? How many times did we not want to have our name or reputation attached to an idea unlike our neighbors. Let's stop throwing stones at the truthtellers, never mind that they're late, they've arrived. Time the rest of us did sometimes... besides writing on these blogs, I mean.