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The Battle Over the A.I.G. Bonuses: Class War in the Media

by: Dean Baker, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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A protester is reflected in the sunglasses of a Washington police officer during a protest against A.I.G. bonuses. (Photo: Alex Brandon / AP)

    The debate over the A.I.G. bonuses is class war in its full naked glory. On the surface, everyone agreed that paying multi-million bonuses to the folks who bankrupted their company and handed the taxpayers a bill for $170 billion ($2,300 for a family of four) was outrageous. The difference is between the angry masses, who actually want to take back the bonuses, and the elites who insist that there is nothing that can be done.

    In spite of the superior education of the elites, the masses have the much better argument. As a result, the elites have been desperately cooking up excuse after excuse as to why their well-heeled friends at A.I.G. and the bankrupt banks shouldn't lose their bonuses.

    The first line of defense against measures to retake the bonuses, such as the tax passed by the House, was that retroactive taxes that apply to income already "earned," are unfair. This one carries little weight to those who can remember back to 1993 when President Clinton signed a tax bill in August 1993 that increased taxes on income earned since January: Masses 1, Elites 0.

    The second line was a moral plea that the A.I.G. crew and other Wall Street bonus babies had worked for their money. While most did show up at the office, the value of their "work" is questionable. More substantively, the elites have been perfectly happy in other circumstances to take away money that people have worked for. For example, Congress changed the rules on Social Security so that beneficiaries cannot get the benefits they paid for while they are in prison: Masses 2, Elites 0.

    But, the third line of defense was the best: The elites claimed that the bonus tax and other similar measures would disrupt compensation patterns on Wall Street. Banks receiving TARP money will lose good people to hedge funds and others who are not similarly restricted.

    This is the line that sends tens of millions of ordinary people rushing to get their baseball bats. The reason the banks are bankrupt, the reason we have more than 12 million people unemployed, the reason we are facing the worst downturn since the Great Depression is that the banks don't have "good" people: Masses 3, Elites 0.

    The people running these banks were unable to see an $8 trillion housing bubble, the largest financial bubble in the history of the world. They sold bonds and complex derivative instruments that only had value if this bubble would continue to inflate. Now, as we sit in the wreckage, with millions of people having lost their jobs in construction, manufacturing, real estate, and other areas, we are supposed to use taxpayer dollars to pay these bankers multi-million dollar bonuses?

    It was bad enough when they got their multi-million dollar paychecks when the money at least belonged to the companies. Of course, that was illusory - the too big crowd was always playing with the taxpayers' dollars, we just didn't know it back then. But now, we know it is our money. We are taxing schoolteachers, firefighters and bus drivers to pay multi-million dollar bonuses to incompetent bank executives and traders. Yes, people are angry.

    This is what really has the elites appalled more than anything. It's one thing for banks, drug companies or insurance companies to use their money to influence legislation. The elites all know and understand that. This is their game. However, when angry people try to affect Congress, then the elites get concerned. And, clearly, that is what is going on with the bonus tax.

    The last time that angry people tried to influence Congress like this was with the original passage of TARP last fall. At that time, popular pressure led the House to vote down the bailout the first time.

    At that point, the elites rallied. They turned over most of the country's newspapers, and radio and television stations to the PR effort to pass the TARP. They abandoned any pretense of objectivity, essentially branding members of Congress who were opposed to the TARP as "know-nothings" and making it clear that they would be blamed for everything that went wrong in the economy if the TARP was defeated.

    Members of Congress folded under this pressure. In effect, the media created a one-sided bet for members of Congress in which voting against the TARP meant that you would be held responsible for everything bad that happened, while voting for the TARP made you immune from responsibility. (No major news outlet has run a story blaming the horrible economic news over the last six months on the passage of the TARP. By contrast, there were numerous stories blaming the stock market plunge on the initial defeat of the TARP. The market has fallen much lower in subsequent months.)

    Of course, the bonus money is relatively small change in the scheme of things. The same people who think it's fine to give incompetent financial company executives multi-million dollar bonuses are busy crafting plans to hand several thousand times this amount to the same crew in their latest bailout scheme. They are saying that if this plan doesn't go through, the economy will be wrecked.

    Just to be clear (because the media won't tell you), the people who designed this plan are the same people who wrecked the economy. Before anyone even thinks of supporting this plan, they should get a clear answer from Bernanke, Geithner, and the rest of the crowd to the question: "When did you stop being wrong about the economy?"

  

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Dean Baker is the Co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. CEPR's Jobs Byte is published each month upon release of the Bureau of Labor Statistics' employment report.

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Baker hits them right where

Baker hits them right where it should hurt: "when did you stop being wrong?" They were all wrong the last eight years, wrong politically, wrong economically, wrong morally. We have no business giving these losers another dime. Let them go broke: that's the recourse Capitalism has always had for failure. And then dump the extreme form of Capitalism America clings to, because it is Fascism Lite. A moderate capitalistic structure with lots of social elements (German social market economy, anyone? With results since 1949 that makes our Capitalism quake in its jackboots) would do the trick.

Why, in the picture, is the

Why, in the picture, is the D.C. police officer wearing a mask to hide his face ?? I don't think it's because he's cold. It's a perfect metaphor for the problem: we don't know who hides behind the mask of authority, and those behind that mask are immune to accountability. It's time to tear the mask off !!!

Congress should establish a

Congress should establish a Commission to investigate the destruction of the American economy over the last eight years. Bush and the Republicans inherited a budget surplus with low unemployment, and a Social Security System that appeared stable for a long term. Al-Quaeda could not have anticipated the destruction that the Republican policies over the last eight years have achieved. The flow of wealth from workers to elites has been unprecedented in all of Human history. A high tax rate on exorbitant salaries is a timely fix for the economy.

Unfortunately we can't let

Unfortunately we can't let these giant financial companies fail. Money is just paper unless we others will trade things for it. We should take over the institutions like they did in England. Fire all the creeps, get the thing back in shape, and then sell the pieces. At the very least we should set salary caps with no bonuses. See: http://www.truthout.org/article/bear-stearns-bankruptcy-can-you-feel-their-pain

America is a delusion, land

America is a delusion, land of the numb, dumb. For a long while, mediocracy has been the virtue all seek as the zenith, to which they aspire. You see this everywhere in our culture, and the value of what is considered worthwhile, has inflated to this ballon of foolishness. And now - what does one expect - incompetency has replaced mediocrity, as the standard pinnacle. No wonder the "Best and the Brightest" insist on their bonuses, their accolades. Dumb, dumber and onward down to profoundly a non-cephalic corpus. Amen ...

All the furor about the AIG

All the furor about the AIG "bonus" scandal is merely serving to cover up the real "class warfare" issues- a circus without the bread. The bonus money is just chicken feed compared to the billions in taxpayer money going to prop up corrupt financial criminals like AIG, Bank of America, Citi Group et al. as well as their elite class partners like Goldman Sachs. The real anger should be over why Obama is continuing to prop up these financial criminals (short answer is that this is what the ruling class presidents do and Obama is no different). If Obama truly wanted to help the ordinary people he would let these predatory corporations fail and go bankrupt. Indeed, Obama should be aggressively trying to force as many of these financial institutions into bankruptcy as possible and then dismantling them. America became a strong economic force because we used to make things, now our economics is based on having a hand in someone elses pocket. The more of these tentacles that can be chopped off the better! And the poor pensioner need not fear, like Medusa the head will always grow more tentacles.

When the ruling classes uses

When the ruling classes uses something like the AIG retention bonuses to foment class envy and warfare (and it started in Congress--hardly the poor, hardly the "working class") then it's for political purposes and it has helped nothing. Why not explain how Wall Street got deregulated in '99 and in 2000--by GOP Congress and with legislation that Bill Clinton signed and that Bush agreed with. Almost no one is aware of this, regardless of socio-economic situation. The ignorance and arrogance of all has been astounding. The real story is preferable to me so we can understand precisely what happened (because it could have been avoided if the legislation that was both repealed and passed had not happened. Can you name the bills/acts? Can Congress? (without looking it up?) It's all gotten politicized without care for our country in general. But make note that the legislation that occurred was passed by a Democrat president (who I voted for) No one is doing this, in fact, confusion has been everywhere, misunderstandings and erroneous reporting.

Amerika: Land of debris,

Amerika: Land of debris, home of the (wage )slave.

As someone said, a trillion

As someone said, a trillion here, a trillion there, what's another trillion down the rat hole? What nobody gets and I've emailed most of the so-called progressive voices is the Bernanke and Geither decided to take this "off balance sheet" to the Fed. They will print money and give it to the banks without Congress stepping in the way. Saturday I talked to a Congressman who sits on Financial Serivices about this He was clueless. I told him to talk to Alan Grayson, a fellow committe member. This Congressman took my head off in anger. God bless that we have Dean Baker and Paul Krugman but until the populace pressures Obama to stop the bailouts we will be continued to be robbed by the super wealthy.

Well written. I propose

Well written. I propose future taxpayers funds be put in a Trust Account, with the Trustee being someone from, for example, FDIC with no association with AIG or the banks. The Trustee can then prioritize debts to be paid - after ensuring the current income of the companies are being wisely and appropriately spent. It does not matter what the bonus contracts say - if there is no money there can be no payments!!!

Incompetence? Mistakes?

Incompetence? Mistakes? Errors? BS. This was all planned. That is what makes this so infuriating. They bloody planned it all along. Is anyone getting in trouble? Going to jail?(Madoff doesn't count because he got caught fleecing the rich) Oh, and they're not "elite". That would mean that they are better in some way, when in truth they are the scum of the Earth. Phfft!

The taxpayers have been

The taxpayers have been subsidizing banks and other companies for far too long. It is time to stop the taxpayer abuse by leveling the playing field. As an example, Banks and other companies don't even pay their fair share of postage. The United States Postal Service provides reduced postage rates which are subsidized by the standard postage rates. Consequently, the standard rates are higher than they should be if there were no lower rates available. Stamps would cost less and we could help save the environment at the same time because it would diminish the postal spam which winds up in your mailbox and more trees could be saved. Rates should be set due to weight and or size for all p0stage with no preferential treatment or discrimination. I very much dislike paying for my own mailbox spam.

Where does this writer get

Where does this writer get the notion that the "elites" -- the corrupt bonus-fed jackasses -- have a superior education? They're MBA's at most, for which the curriculum doesn't strain brains. Even Dubya has one of those. In the meantime, millions of regular folk have lost assets, like pensions, health plans, salary fractions if not whole jobs, including professors with Ph.D.'s appointed to temporary non-tenured positions in every American college and university. Education didn't shield them from the ravages of the moneyed elite. But the ravagers sure got the money. And the safe parachutes. The rest of the country is left with the shreds and the holes.

14:00 is solidly on target.

14:00 is solidly on target. 14:23 makes an interesting point about the cop's mask. Have you folks noticed how many police cover their faces now? Especially the "elite" units. Are the things they do so shameful that they need to keep their identities secret? This is also really authoritarian symbolism.

For thousands of years we

For thousands of years we were warned against chasing the almighty buck. So now all of a sudden it's boo hoo time? The public was psyched into believing the market could uphold ridiculous housing prices. The previous administration had no taste for historic lessons, so we are repeating "fall of the empire" economics. No one is actually being bailed out, the treasury is being raided. The vultures are picking our national bones. The market rabble, now called the media, should have no voice in the senate. Remember the 'war' in Iraq? Remember when it was unpatriotic to vote against said 'war'? Remember US citizens reporting each other to the authorities for criticizing the 'war'? Good, now we can remember in living color the lessons of Germany. Oh, did we burn that history book? Bailout? We should be watching them scramble for bailout of jail money. If we don't set up a prosecution of these antipatriotic forces, we will continue to be under they're influence. I don't believe for a moment that if you give the local crackhouse a stipend they will fix up they're property. Skull and bones? Bury the damned things before we all get sick.

This business about the

This business about the elites being "good people" reminds me of the "optimates" of the Roman Empire: the so-called "Best People" who, after Rome became wealthy, made Rome's wealth their own, and who called themselves Rome's "best people". The optimates confounded their wealth with virtue. The truth, of course, is that wealth does not bring virtue; instead, it *tests* virtue, and very often it reveals a lack of virtue. It was the fault of the optimates -- primarily a failure of courage -- that the public-spirited Roman Republic was succeeded by the oppressive, brutal and comparatively lawless Roman Empire. As in Rome's Senate at the beginning of the Roman Empire, America's Congress now reliably does whatever is personally safest for its members, and their demonstrations of courage are few and weak. As in Rome, America's transition to empire has not been a transition toward greater virtue. And as in Rome, America's real economic leadership -- financial industry CEOs, among others -- have led us to economic disaster while continually claiming special virtues as their own. They deem themselves "good people", and regard their goodness as fully demonstrated by the astonishing wealth they have accumulated. There is no moral strength and no future in their attitude. Like all empires, the American empire will eventually collapse from within because its leaders cannot adapt to changing realities, and cannot allow others to adapt, either. Even the most reality-resistant leaders will portray themselves as "good people" to the bitter end. The collapse is upon us now. What will we Romans, I mean we Americans, do now? I dunno. Interesting times. I see plenty of room for despair and hope. The goal of personal wealth currently trumps the goal of societal wealth in most decisions, unfortunately including leadership decisions, but things could change if America's "best people" actually demonstrated more personal commitment to growing the real wealth of all nations and of all individuals.

A further comment: do people

A further comment: do people remember the "welfare queens" that the Reagan crew used to babble about? We've found them: they received the federal bailout funds.

I think all the bailouts

I think all the bailouts should be stopped. What's going on is robbery, with the government dumping public money into the pockets of the already wealthy. We are essentially rewarding these people for their incompetence and malfeasance. This is socialism for the elites and capitalism for everyone else! There should be no special accommodations rich people who made bad choices. In my view, we would be far better off simply giving all Americans million dollar checks. This is a far cheaper way to address the personal debt and get the economy moving again. I do not believe that can be accomplished from the top down.

Perhaps "We the People" have

Perhaps "We the People" have arrived at the moment of history that reveals the excesses of the powerful criminal cartel that currently threatens to destroy our economy, and presents our newly elected President with these accumulated problems. He realizes that it is 535 members of Congress that must change their ways, many having been complicit in the bribery which has brought us to where we are today. We should also realize this. We must reject the fear of the 9/11 regime of the last 8 years, and we must also reject the fear of the current "too big to fail lie" that we must borrow more money to pay their ransom for a failed financial system. The failure is false and our congressional leadership has bought into it. To be clear, the free market and capitalism has only one solution for these counterfeits: bankruptcy. The sooner we face this reality, the better. Once these derivative bets and bad judgments are cleared from the system, we can salvage the residue and rebuild a sound economy, one requiring government to be severely curtailed and restored to its Constitutional requisites rather than redistribute citizens' money.

The real reason Wall St was

The real reason Wall St was wrong is because it ignores the ecological collapse that makes reinvigorating the economy much more difficult

Dean Baker and John Stewart

Dean Baker and John Stewart should be on the President's team! It is astonishing how screwed up the media reportage is on this economic mess. So much for a 'free press' keeping the democracy healthy and vibrant. I am sick of labor and the hard-working people of this country bending to pressures to take a wage/benefits cut while those 'smart' elites whine about fairness! I never vote for these bozos. Been calling it right for years, but, these idiots still run the country!

I'm afraid I'm going to have

I'm afraid I'm going to have to side with the elites on this one. Really, most AIG bonus recipients are not wealthy -- many are very well paid, but are also not responsible for the ever-expanding catalogue of ills that Baker and his "our time has come" cohorts keep frantically waving around. Outside of the $1 million club at AIG, the average bonus was around 250K -- a lot more than I make, but then bonuses constitute the bulk of many of these employees’ total compensation. As for Baker’s three points: most of the "masses" don't remember the retroactive Clinton tax, I really don't object to prisoners waiting for their benefits until they get out, and the blame for this country’s economic problems extends far, far beyond the supposed dearth of “good” bankers.

all this needs to be

all this needs to be said... but the real big money question on the bailout is (why) are the counterparties being paid in full ( as eliot spitzer said) ? what does dean baker have to say about that ?

Rage over the AIG bonus

Rage over the AIG bonus payments is just the tip of the iceberg. For decades upper level executives have been sending workers jobs overseas and taking in huge salaries and bonuses. Fewer jobs, lower paying jobs, declining health care and education, side-lining unions. The real surprise is that class warfare hasn't started before this.

Wonder what happens now that

Wonder what happens now that the rest of the world is having a conference on how to replace the dead dollar? I read An excellent article by Paco Ahlgren on this subject. He writes of the downfall of currency standards when all the major empires fell. As our own empire is presently in freefall it's time to think about alternatives. Our economists keep bleating that the dollar will last forever, which speaks of arrogance and ignorance.

To continue with the

To continue with the thoughts of 16:12 Steve Newcomb -- Do you think Obama is America’s Marius? In about 107 BC, as the Roman Republic was starting its decline, he was elected Consul as a *champion of the common people* against the ‘old money’ elites. Unfortunately, he was in the pay of the ‘new money’ folks. In the long run, it was (ho-hum) just another civil war between factions of the Business Party… oops, factions of the *Patrician class*.

The cop is most likely

The cop is most likely wearing a mask so his face stays protected from the people he's facing--who, by the way, seem to me to be playing right into the government's hands. If you were a cop (I know you wouldn't be) but if you were, you'd go face an angry mob with no protection? That would be risky and foolish, it seems. Could lose your eyes for that matter, or have have bottles throw into your face. Even cops on college campuses have to wear protection these days. It seems fine to say it symbolizes something to you--lack of accountability in our legal system which allowed this whole mess to occur. DEREGULATION is responsible. And both parties are right in the thick of it. Go back to the late '90s and 2000 and see what Congress passed, and what Clinton signed (he NEVER should have.) But he did. And, of course, Bush was in full agreement. Greenspan thought it would work. And why hasn't Obama called for immediate repeal of the Commodities Futures Modernization Act? Seems a no-brainer. What's happened has as far as I can tell, been legal. If not, why haven't people been arrested and jailed? Ask yourself that question before you get into scapegoating and cutting off your own nose to spite your face. Are many of you folks really suggesting that Wall Street regulate itself with no rules at all (as has been the law?) Kind of like Congress voting for no stoplights, no speed limits, drinking with driving is fine--making it all LEGAL and then when crashes occur, they throw up their hands and say, "You should be angry!" as they point their finger most definitely away from themselves. Stop looking for scapegoats and making the situation worse. Wise-up and read our history over the past 15 years--Democratic and Republican both and what legislation they've undone that was good and what they've passed that is dangerous to our economy and has directly led to this mess. The class war stuff is insane. And I'm a social worker for gosh sakes.

The Repugnican revisionists

The Repugnican revisionists just continue to amaze us. A couple of months of Obama are More than Sufficient to prove that all his ideas are wrong and let's go back to becoming a Christian Nation like we were under Bush. Huh?

To 18:55 John Cutler: ...a

To 18:55 John Cutler: ...a student of ancient history! You'll also recall Marius' relative: he was named Julius Caesar. Marius also started the process of creating a Roman army which was more loyal to its generals than the government. What is the connection here? Obama needs to carry out the change that he has talked about-thoroughly. This means more progressive economic thinking, including reasonable financial regulation and policies that promote a strong middle and working class. If the current trends continue, it may indeed turn into a late Roman Republic. Too many people here think America is exceptional: "it can't happen here". Think again.

I'm so sick of hearing about

I'm so sick of hearing about these greedy, arrogant, corporate thieves looting the public treasury while most of us are worried about keeping our houses and putting food on the table. Though I have always worked hard and put money into savings and my retirement account (which has lost about 60% of its value), I was laid off in November and am perilously close to defaulting on my modest home. I, like most Americans, want to work reasonable hours (a 40-hour work week) and be able to afford a decent place to live - nothing extravagant! The people who caused this mess should not receive public funds until they cut out all the fat and excess. Once critical mass is reached of hard-working people who are out of work, homeless, and have nothing to lose, how long do these "elites" think they can keep their luxurious lifestyles going? I think we should nationalize all the insolvent banks and fire those who got us into this mess, heavily tax all corporations that send jobs overseas, make corporations and extremely wealthy individuals pay their fair share of taxes, and have socialized medicine. That would help to level the playing field. Capitalism can only work for all the people if they have a fair opportunity to succeed. There's not much incentive to work hard and be productive if that won't give you a reasonable chance of having a decent life and being able to retire in your twilight years.

Bonus is small

Bonus is small potatatoes! Jail the Wall Streeters who cooked up this $8 trillion scheme to defraud us. These seems to be a great fear (many, like Obama, even deny anything wrong happened) of prosecuting (for fraud) the AIG crowd, not to mention the rest of the people running the failed banks--Citigroup, etc. What was their fraud? They knowingly labeled toxic subprime mortgages as AAA securities. Selling crap as gold is fraud.

Every time I start to lose

Every time I start to lose my ire about this whole AIG fracas, I just go back and watch some of the AIG ads from a few years ago. Gets me all worked up again in no time. Interestingly, AIG has removed its ad gallery from its site, but you can still find some of the ads here: http://urbzen.com/2009/03/23/too-big-to-fail-fail/

Hey, Mike in NYC (3/23 @

Hey, Mike in NYC (3/23 @ 17:10): You sound like a fairly well-educated, articulate fellow, except your posts here and on other sites (notably Huffington Post) are always touting the "establishment" view with the same tired talking points. Could it be that you're one of the RNC's "paid posters" deployed to counter the prevalent (and growing) perception that we, the American people, have been and are contiuming to be screwed by those whose views you seem to espouse? Just askin'... I think it's revealing that Jamie Dimon, chief of JP Morgan Chase "just can't understand the public outrage" at the Wall Street rape of the nation.

As Obama said on

As Obama said on Leno...most of what happened on Wall Street was legal. That's what happens with total deregulation. Some rules are needed. It's easy to blame "greed" and the "elites" but it seems that very few on this post can see past scapegoating and realize the law is the problem (or deregulation of Wall Street.) And re: AIG--AIG is many companies, most of them tightly regulated in every state in this country. They had no part in this. The life insurance and property and casuality companies are made up of average Americans who are being slammed (and when we do this we slam ourselves.) Notice how AIG-Financial Products Company has now come to be referred to simply as AIG. It's not--AIG-FP is one company out of around 100 under the umbrella of AIG. One company out of many many regulated companies that have nothing to do with any of this mess because they were already regulated and still are. But, all the hoopla has devalued those companies that needed to be sold to pay off the loan. And that were slated to be sold and had bidders lined up...that have now backed off because of the public response. Way to go media, Congress and the pupulace who haven't taken the time to get the facts.

No, Bob, I'm not that

No, Bob, I'm not that “Mike in NYC.” Maybe I should change my humdrum handle. Or move from this godforsaken city. Speaking of the GOP, most of their House members voted down last fall’s original bailout bill, while most Dems voted for it. They may be faux conservatives, but sometimes they have some merit. BTW, the catchy liberal construct "we, the [modern] American people" doesn't exist, as the coming years will clearly demonstrate. (My apologies to Truthout for turning this into a forum.)

The tax code that passed the

The tax code that passed the house will more than likely be struck down as unconstitutional by the court system. While yes we should be outraged by some of the bonuses being paid out, one must remember, this is a very slippery slope that we are traveling down with executive compensation. O has already positioned compensation for company's that are not accepting tax dollars. Pay attention people and be very careful what you ask for as you may not like the results.

Mike from nyc: - I get paid

Mike from nyc: - I get paid when I perform. Lousy performance = lousy pay. I am sick and tired of having to live inside a neo-fascist ersatz-capitalism while the rich are on welfare. - Masses - Infinity; Elite - 0

One thing I don't hear

One thing I don't hear mentioned: How is AIG going to sell its auto insurance to its adoring public now? Sure, they rebranded their auto insurance subsidiary to "21st Century Insurance," but 30 seconds of googling exposes that. So now we're sinking money into an insurance company holding tank with subsidiaries that nobody will buy insurance from? If they weren't doomed before, they are now, aren't they?

As of today, my small amount

As of today, my small amount of deferred income from a long-ago job is removed from AIG's clutches and is now resting in the hands of one of the local credit unions. I imagine I'm not alone in choosing last week to disengage from AIG (which gobbled up the firm where my deferred income sat for years and years) . The financial pundits are so out of touch with people living in small towns and cities across the US, they haven't yet realized that "little people" like me who distrust AIG and its recent and past decisions, are voting with our dollars. It was the greedy management of AIG, giving "retention" bonuses equally more pay per hour than many Americans make in a week, that made it obvious that a smaller interest rate from my local credit union is preferable to having any financial relationship with AIG and its disastrous, uncaring shenanigans.

To "Tue, 03/24/2009 - 02:32

To "Tue, 03/24/2009 - 02:32 — Anonymous (not verified)": on what grounds is the special tax on bonuses unconstitutional? I agree that it's bad legislation — I want a general soak-the-rich tax, myself — but I'm not aware of any provision of the Constitution that it violates. Or are you counting on Republican judges calling anything that gores their ox "unconstitutional"?

Excellent article. Thanks

Excellent article. Thanks

I'm not sure what kind of

I'm not sure what kind of class war you mean, Mr. Baker. In The Sound and the Fury Faulkner describes the battle for dominance between the Snopeses and the Compsons. The people you label "elites" are actually Snopeses. The Snopeses have taken over this country, as Faulkner foresaw they would. This does not make them upper class, unless you judge them by Snopes criteria, which I do not. Mary

What is the definition of a

What is the definition of a Bonus? A simple search on Google shows pages and pages with definitions. None matches the current situation. ______________________________________ Definition: A monetary payment made to an employee over and above their standard salary or compensation package ______________________________________ Bonuses are one of the ways employers reward their employees for a job well done. And offering regular, significant bonuses is a way to keep your best people from looking elsewhere for a job. ______________________________________ Something extra that is good An extra amount of money given to an employee The employee received a for his excellent work. ______________________________________ Payment sometimes given to employees at the end of a year in which the employee and/or the company performed very well. ______________________________________ 1. (Law) A premium given for a loan, or for a charter or other privilege granted to a company; as the bank paid a bonus for its charter. --Bouvier. 2. An extra dividend to the shareholders of a joint stock company, out of accumulated profits. 3. Money paid in addition to a stated compensation. ______________________________________ So, Where did the bonus recipients perform excellent and where are the accumulated profits to share? This whole discussion is a farce to divert and cover up the big payments made. Wake up and take your country back. The world needs a stromg USA.

What we're missing here,

What we're missing here, apparently, is that as long as we concentrate our anger and disgust on the errant, separate individuals in this debacle, then that will be just fine with the system's guardians, because then we won't see the larger picture - the inherent systemic failure that this rip-off of the rest of us represents. Think about it.

@bvc: The rich aren't the

@bvc: The rich aren't the only ones on welfare, or haven't you noticed? People "gettin' paid" not to perform at all. Over $1 trillion since the 60's, out of the pockets of the same demographic that's footing the bill this time around. Get your priorities straight.

Corporate welfare and

Corporate welfare and welfare for people down on they're luck are two distinctly different issues Mike. Get your priorities straight. Class warfare? I have never met a classy thief. Mike, wherever you work. Do you get a bonus for screwing up?

I completely disagree with

I completely disagree with this article and see no basis for it. There is no class warfare with AIG as AIG is a scapegoat for a much larger problem, with many more, thousands more, abusers. But the "abuse" is largely legal, and people do not wish to to topple their own chances at making millions of dollars one day, they are simply reacting to the media attention to AIG. The "outcry" is media generated and if there is something the public, the working class, were to rebel against, it would definitley have to be these ridiculous "wars on terror" which has directly robbed the American people far more than AIG. These bonuses were contractual, like it or not. The "war on terror" was a fabrication from the beginning. If we were to be witnessing "class war", we would see people refusing the larger economic systems that use tax money to stimulate corporate profit not to create a single payer healthcare system; or refusing military spending when money is needed to help out homeowners; and resisting the ridiculous system of student loans that has lead to generations of indentured servitude amongst our educated citizenry.

Whose job was it to read

Whose job was it to read over the bill before it being pass? Why wasn't the bill looked over better? If one line slipped through the view of the government then maybe more can slip through their view. Will Obama show the right change we need?

I just simply believe that

I just simply believe that there seems to be too many different factors involved in the situation, making it very difficult to find the root of the problem.

Very true. The elites are

Very true. The elites are trying to ruin our economy. The country is in big danger and it is already late to start fixing it. However, there is still hope. As always- better late than never. We should try to bring it back on track.