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Democratic Centrists Press Pelosi to Shelve Climate Bill

by: Mike Soraghan  |  The Hill

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Many in the right wing of the Democratic Party are urging Nancy Pelosi to hold off on the climate change bill. (Photo: Getty images)

    Democratic centrists are pressing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to set aside a flagging climate change bill to focus on what they think is a more achievable goal: overhauling the nation's healthcare system.

    But those close to Pelosi (D-Calif.) say she is charging forward on cap-and-trade legislation, despite the potential defections of Democrats who represent states with industries that would be adversely affected by the bill.

    Pelosi views the bill's troubles as predictable and solvable aspects of the legislative process.

    Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.), a leader of the centrist New Democrat Coalition, sees healthcare as a more productive use of time.

    "What a number of us believe is that if we're in the business of passing legislation, healthcare is where we ought to be putting our emphasis," said Davis, a vice chairman of the business-minded New Democrats. "That means putting that over climate change policy. But in the throes of a recession, more of a burden on industry is not a good idea."

    Davis, who is running for governor in a coal-dependent state, says with Republicans united against the Democratic cap-and-trade plan, the legislation could easily be derailed with a substitute. Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) provided such a substitute earlier this week when he offered up a plan to accelerate offshore drilling, and deemed cap-and-trade hopelessly "stalled."

    Rep. John Tanner (D-Tenn.), a senior Blue Dog Democrat, says he sees more chances for Republican support on healthcare.

    "They're both hard lifts," said Tanner. "I think we can get an incremental healthcare bill that is maybe less divisive than cap-and-trade. You have to walk before you can run."

    The views of the two Ways and Means Southerners square with those of Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), the House Democratic campaign chief charged with protecting vulnerable members in conservative districts. In an exchange in a leadership meeting last week confirmed by aides and participants, House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) criticized Van Hollen for disparaging the chances of cap-and-trade. Van Hollen said he felt that healthcare reform should be done first.

    After the exchange became public, Van Hollen got support from his vulnerable members, aides said.

    "They appreciated that he was looking out for their interests," said a Democratic aide. Democratic aides say the sentiment for putting healthcare first is felt most strongly among New Democrats.

    "A lot of our members feel that healthcare has a higher likelihood, so getting that done first and then doing energy makes sense," said an aide to a New Democratic leader.

    "New Dems are in a tough spot," said one Blue Dog member, explaining that New Democrats are more likely to have an environmental constituency at odds with their business constituency. Blue Dogs, by comparison, have more freedom simply to vote no on climate change legislation.

    "There's not as much talk among Blue Dogs about what should go first, but there is a feeling that if there's only one, it should be healthcare," the member said.

    Pelosi held a meeting on cap-and-trade last week with Blue Dog leaders, who told her that consensus was possible on cap-and-trade, but only if she takes a cautious approach that takes centrist views into account.

    Rep. Jason Altmire (D-Pa.), a New Democrat and Blue Dog who opposes cap-and-trade and supports the healthcare overhaul, said he thinks healthcare will take priority without prodding because there is more of a consensus on healthcare.

    "I don't think we should hold back on healthcare to see progress on cap-and-trade," Altmire said. "They can't put the pieces together the same way they have for healthcare."

    But the idea of putting healthcare before climate change contravenes the wishes of President Obama, who met Tuesday with Energy and Commerce Democrats and reinforced that he wants the House to tackle cap-and-trade before healthcare.

    Obama called the meeting after cap-and-trade appeared to bog down in committee, without the votes to pass. That is likely to be tested next week, when Waxman is expected to leapfrog the subcommittee to hold a full-committee vote. That plan got more complicated Wednesday when Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), vice chairman of the subcommittee, objected to the plan.

    Pelosi was adamant Wednesday that climate change will stay on track. While acknowledging that Democrats have undertaken "a bigger agenda than we've had" in the past, she said, "I believe [climate change legislation] will be done this year."

    Those close to Pelosi say she figures healthcare has just as much chance to bog down.

    "Reports of the death of cap-and-trade are premature," said a Democratic aide. "The timing, momentum and dollars haven't come together yet. The Speaker's not in a panic about it."

    There is thinking within leadership that it's better to have two complex issues going at one time, the aide said. When there's only one, it draws all the fire. So Pelosi might keep cap-and-trade going, waiting for healthcare to become stalled, then return the emphasis to cap-and-trade.

    That could happen next week, when some lawmakers are expecting to see draft healthcare legislation.

    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), who's taken a more prominent role with healthcare legislation, was more circumspect than Pelosi this week about cap-and-trade's chances.

    "There is obviously, at this point in time, very serious discussions and not a consensus," Hoyer said. "Whether it is a gridlock or not, I don't know."

    Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), a member of top leadership who sits on the Ways and Means Committee, said both healthcare and cap-and-trade are vying for the attention of the caucus.

    "The horses that want to do healthcare reform are catching up with the horses who want to do climate change," Becerra said. "It's a matter of who has stronger, healthier legs."

  

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Cap and trade is wimpy, it

Cap and trade is wimpy, it is a preordained conclusion leaped at by the upper crust who will receive lobbyist cash for their election campaigns. Global climate change is only one symptom of planetary damage done by pirates who are enabled by politicians in both major political parties. A tax on pollution and energy with an equal reduction of wage taxes has an actual chance of saving humanity from extinction.

I agree with Garrett. And

I agree with Garrett. And Mike. It's always the same argument: we corporations supply the jobs that supply the incomes that make everything else possible. But climate change [global warming] has changed the debate. Unregulated business moves inexorably toward a crash. Conservatives want to say that morality doesn't apply in economic matters. In a sense they are "free market liberals." But the "free market" is not free; it always tends toward consolidation and ultimately monopoly. What bankers and financiers and industrialists mean by "free" is: "I get to use my money to corrupt politics and get rid of any legal restraints on my charging usurious interest or writing derivatives that are worthless or polluting air, earth and water to the point where people die of cancer or else it's not America." Absurdly, they would rather be dead than have to adjust to the idea that they are no better deserving of control and privilege than anyone else. It's insane, not just absurd; therefor it's dangerous. They have to be taken in hand and strictly regulated otherwise the inmates will continue to run the asylum.

I hope we and Pelosi and

I hope we and Pelosi and Obama and a few others can remember that the "centrist" label really means Hard Right Wing Bush Radicals. Therefore, their opinions should be treated as open to deep scrutiny and eventual dismissal.

If you will notice some of

If you will notice some of the so called "Blue dog" Democrats are from coal states: Tennessee, West Virginia, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. We are having trouble with our 2 Democratic senators. Of course most other states with big energy muscle are Repugs. There is NO SUCH THING AS CLEAN COAL. Even if you could burn it cleanly, (carbon sequestration is very very very expensive and the technology is still in its infancy for large scale projects, there is still the mining, transportation, waste and water pollution (think Tennessee River dam disaster) Until we get rid of coal whether you cap it or trade it or anything else we are goners.

The Congress members of both

The Congress members of both parties have failed to learn the lesson of King Canute. Though only a character in a fable, he was the self-styled absolute monarch who could get anything he wanted merely by demanding it. So one morning he went to his beach and commanded the tides to halt. He was still commanding when he was swept away and drowned. Those fools who think they can get away with denying global warming had better take heed. Cap and trade may not be the best response, but it sure is better than any concession to the Canutes in the energy business who insist on maintaining their denials of danger.

The Wall street/corporate/

The Wall street/corporate/ millioneer okigarchy will be haard to get rid of. We will have to work as hard to keep Obama honest as we did to get him elected