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Guantanamo Closure Funds Stripped by Senate, 90-6

by: J. Taylor Rushing  |  The Hill

Guantanamo Bay prison hall.

Cells at the Guantanamo Bay prison. (Photo: Mark Wilson / Getty Images)


    Senators on Wednesday followed through with their vow to deny the Obama administration the necessary money to close the US prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    Voting 90-6, the Senate stripped $80 million from a supplemental military funding bill, $50 million of which was designated to close the controversial prison and $30 million for a Justice Department investigation into interrogation techniques used there.

    The amendment by Appropriations Committee Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) and Oklahoma Republican James Inhofe - both of whom have personally toured the prison - actually goes beyond the military supplemental to deny the administration any past money it could use to close the prison and transfer the prisoners into the United States.

    The language reads, "None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act or any prior Act may be used to transfer, release or incarcerate any individual who was detained as of May 19, 2009 at Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to or within the United States."

    Inouye was emphatic that Democrats still believe the prison should close, and that his amendment is only a "reality check" on the administration's intent to close it without a plan for the detainees being held there.

    "This amendment is not a referendum on closing Guantanamo," Inouye said. "Instead, it should serve as a reality check since at this time the administration has not yet forwarded a coherent plan on foreclosing this prison."

    Inouye explained that simply restricting the money in the supplemental, as he did last week in the Appropriations Committee, wasn't sending a clear enough message to the administration. After reading media reports over the weekend, he said, he began to worry that the entire supplemental could be threatened and began to consider yanking the funds totally.

    "Rather than cooling the passions of those who are justifiably concerned with the ultimate disposition of the prisoners, the funding which remained in the bill became a lightning rod far outshadowing its impact and dwarfing the more important elements of this critically needed bill," he said. "The fact that the administration has not offered a workable plan at this point made that decision rather easy."

    But leaving the prison open, Inouye said, would allow al Qaeda a "powerful recruiting tool," since the facility is a "symbol of the wrongdoing" of past abuses by the U.S. military such as at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

    Inhofe said just the opposite: that the U.S. needs the prison because it is the best alternative for the detainees rather than sending them to other countries or into America.

    "None of the options are good, but this is one resource we have," he said. "We need to keep it. We have to keep it. It is by far the best option."

    The six votes against the amendment came from Sens. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.).

  

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Where were the plans for

Where were the plans for occupying Afghanistan and Iraq? These same senators had no problem with rubber stamping bill after bill to fund the misguided and often criminal efforts of the Bush administration. Ninety six senators who approved the funds for the creation of Guantanamo, who approved the funds for the invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, now want to show their mettle by keeping a prison in operation all in what will be a failed effort to keep the knowledge of the illegal torture of prisoners away from the American people. It is years too late for that and even these isolated idiots in the US Senate should realize that. How can they now use the excuse that there is no plan, when clearly there was no plan for the occupation of Afghanistan and no plan for the occupation of Iraq, with the result being tens of thousands of soldiers loosing limbs, brain function, and lives, and trillions being spent with no measurable gains. This is true lunacy.

Playing politics with lives

Playing politics with lives of people who have been imprisoned for years. I appreciate the list of those who voted NO. Close Guantanamo, try the detainees swiftly and honestly in US courts. If there's no evidence, give them stays in "torture recovery" settings, reparations and help them find a place to live. Shame on Congress, AGAIN.

WHAT??Β΄..best alternative..

WHAT??Β΄..best alternative.. rather than sending them to other countries or into America..Β΄Like are we too incapable or ineffective to control our own prison population?This is our problem & we own it--no picking on smaller countries.

Of course Congress doesn't

Of course Congress doesn't want an investigation into the torture that has been and continues to go on, because so many of them would be indicted for war crimes! It is only a matter of time before the whole world becomes aware of the extent of evil and horrible abuse and murder the United States has inflicted on so many people, most of them innocent civilians!! Justice must be served sooner or later, it would be preferable to get these atrocities out in the open and then begin the process of indictments, prosecutions with appropriate punishments and then national reconciliation and healing with reparations for the victims. Then some Justice will have been served!

The Senate has once again

The Senate has once again shown it is NOT fit to govern; nor, administer! Eight years under Mad King George were evidently not enough! The insanity continues and the World watches! What more needs to said? There is no rational excuse for the nonsense that masquerades as "law-making" in the US Senate (Hang in there, Members of the House. there's enough in my craw to include you!) "Advise & Dissent" is the mantra of the US Government Today I wrote one of my senators (Dianne Feinstein) asking WHEN is she going to "do the right thing!" And, today, she added one more to the list of "NOT's". . .Voting "YEA" to strip the appropriations. And, I expect I will get another of her wishy-washy "You don't understand. . ." form letters. What I DO understand is that this most exclusive club in the world is off its rails! Has lost its touch with the real world. Oh, well. . Many of the Nazis "justified" their reasons for supporting the death camps. . .by telling the rest of us, "You don't understand!" And, you ninety Senators DO "understand?" My apologies to those of you who take the time to read this. . .I'm jumping up and down in anger and maybe somewhat "scrambled" and incoherent. . .But, that doesn't change the fact that this is lunacy!

There are other ways Obama

There are other ways Obama can close it and Obama needs to look into them.

Why don't we just turn them

Why don't we just turn them over, along with the BUSH regime to an International court. Simple solution to a continuing thorn in the Old American ideals. Many years ago when We had a life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness was within the reach of many Americans. LOVE & PEACE

"Arms sent buy U.S. may be

"Arms sent buy U.S. may be ending up in Taliban hands" NYT 5/20/2009 p. A1. "With only spotty American and Afghan controls on the vast inventory of weapons and ammunition sent into Afghanistan during an eight-year conflict, poor discipline and outright corruption among Afghan forces may have helped insurgents stay supplied." Terminal lunacy. It's time we convened a Constitutional Convention and reclaimed democracy. "People can decide with as much propriety on the alterations and amendment [to the Constitution] which shall be found necessary, as ourselves, for I do not conceive that we are more inspired, have more wisdom or possess more virtue than those who will come after us." George Washington, 1787. From New Initiative for Democracy,

Send them to where there is

Send them to where there is a history of truth being told, send them to South Africa, along with money and food to make up for the agribusiness seeds that did not produce as promised. Send no seed from GM-contaminated cultivars. Send seeds from Indian women's coops or other sources where the seeds are known to be open-pollinated and vigorous for seed-saving in subsequent years. The U.S. does not have credibility concerning getting truth. South Africa does. Dick Cheney is unlikely to leave the U.S. with efforts to justify what he did. Let the stories be told without him. I am not sure he is well enough for reconciliation anyway.

Yes, ZeeBruce (20:47) you

Yes, ZeeBruce (20:47) you said it well. Where's the Change we voted for? BTW, let's don't keep referring to them with the Rovian term "detainees". A person is detained for an hour or two when your plane is late. These are prisoners, some of them locked up for several years with no charges presented and no fair trial. Some may be totally innocent, rounded up for the reward money offered by the U.S. Get on with it, close GitMo, and have the trials. If some (or all) are guilty then punish them (like the Oklahoma City terrorists). Show some decency and respect for the laws.

The insanity continues

The insanity continues unabated. How naive were our celebrations last November. What now to stop the abusive power structure? This killing and abuse of human beings must stop!

Get the Job Done!...Change

Get the Job Done!...Change this atrocious mentality! Many of the prisoners were railroaded there in the first place! "WE" offered bounties on their heads -and tortured them to find a plausible reason to INVADE IRAQ...Nothing came of it but death, destruction, moral low ground, a giant helping of "America being HATED...and we continue to show our ass! Shame on all of our incompetent, gas guzzling leaders! If you did a crime-DO THE TIME! -or- get out of the country ...Join Al Queda for real, don't continue to fake it! Are you really that proud of this insanity? You are following the Bush Doctrine, I am ashamed of you and please consider the fact that "politicians are severely screwing up the gene pool"..Withdraw now! Hat in hand like the rest of us. When you dishonor this country, it can not be brought back whole. The more mistakes, criminal or moral that are hidden, the bigger the chance that you will be found out and there will be no where to hide!. AMERICA DOES NOT-WILL NOT TORTURE- AND WILL PROSECUTE ANY ONE WHO BREAKS OUR LAWS!

Does that mean the Feinstein

Does that mean the Feinstein & Boxer (D) CA voted yes?

the senate has got to be one

the senate has got to be one of the most undemocratic institutions in our government! i cannot believe how many times the House brings up a bill in response to citizen pressure only to see it vetoed by the Senate! i really hate those guys! makes me wonder...is this what the founding fathers had in mind? james madison, after all, said "the role of government is to protect the minority of the opulent from the majority'

Yes, insanity

Yes, insanity continues. "The insanity continues unabated. How naive were our celebrations last November. What now to stop the abusive power structure? This killing and abuse of human beings must stop!" Killing and abuse of human beings? The Gitmo detainees are in Gitmo because they killed and abused human beings. An enormous proportion of those released from Gitmo go straight out to kill and abuse human beings.

To the person who asked if

To the person who asked if both Feinstein AND Boxer voted"yes?" Borrowing from that famed "Russia Watcher". . ."You betcha!"

Re: "An enormous proportion

Re: "An enormous proportion of those released from Gitmo go straight out to kill and abuse human beings..." Hello, these are SUSPECTS, not those ever convicted in any honest court of law. Our government already previously admitted that 90% of those that were (kidnapped in some cases) incarcerated, tortured, and abused (and not just at Guantanamo), were innocent of what they were accused of. The remaining 10% who may be guilty, should have fair, timely trials in a real U.S. court of law, or in an international court, not show trials under "military commissions". Now, our U.S. government may very well have made some of these people into enemies, by doing some of the very things that our nation's U.S. revolutionary war was fought against, that our U.S. Bill Of Rights was created to address, by completely violating who and what we are supposed to be, and completely ignoring what George Washington said to NEVER DO, even if those you are fighting are doing it... But whose fault is that? This ultimately is about us, who we are as a nation, and how we behave as a nation. That is where it starts, and that is where the choice is. That "Someone else did it too", is not an excuse for committing the crimes of kidnapping, wrongful incarceration without a timely trial in a real court of law, torture, abuse, and murder (at least 100 people in U.S. military and C.I.A. custody have been murdered, that we know of), period. That is how we truly lose, including losing our nation's soul.

NY Times reports that Obama

NY Times reports that Obama now wants a Preventive Detention Law that will allow the gov't to imprison people indefinitely who have not been convicted in any court, but who, the gov't believes, pose a threat. After such a law is used for the Gitmo prisoners, imagine the possibilities.

Yes, an enormous proportion,

Yes, an enormous proportion, about 15% of the people who were cleared and released from Gitmo were later arrested for crimes in the countries where they were released or were recaptured or killed while attacking US forces overseas. These were the "low risk" people. Those were the ones that other countries were willing to take. Those now in Gitmo are the "high risk" known terrorists, the ones caught red-handed. The ones that no one will take except China. I wonder what China would do with them. Some may think that a 15% recidivism rate is not too bad. All I can say is that is just the activities we know of.