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Iran and Leftist Confusion

by: Reese Erlich, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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Nicole Sadighi, an Iranian living in London, England, holds her dog Mishka as she rallies beneath a large pre-revolution Iranian flag during a protest against the election results in Iran. (Photo: AP)

    When I returned from covering the Iranian elections recently, I was surprised to find my email box filled with progressive authors, academics and bloggers bending themselves into knots about the current crisis in Iran. They cite the long history of US interference in Iran and conclude that the current unrest there must be sponsored or manipulated by the Empire.

    That comes as quite a shock to those risking their lives daily on the streets of major Iranian cities fighting for political, social and economic justice.

    Some of these authors have even cited my book, "The Iran Agenda," as a source to prove US meddling. Whoa there, pardner. Now we're getting personal.

    The large majority of American people, particularly leftists and progressives, are sympathetic to the demonstrators in Iran, oppose Iranian government repression and also oppose any US military or political interference in that country. But a small and vocal number of progressives are questioning that view, including authors writing for Monthly Review online or Foreign Policy Journal, and prominent academics such as retired professor James Petras.

    They mostly argue by analogy. They correctly cite numerous examples of CIA efforts to overthrow governments, sometimes by manipulating mass demonstrations. But past practice is no proof that it's happening in this particular case. Frankly, the multi-class character of the most recent demonstrations, which arose quickly and spontaneously, were beyond the control of the reformist leaders in Iran, let alone the CIA.

    Let's assume for the moment that the US was trying to secretly manipulate the demonstrations for its own purposes. Did it succeed? Or were the protests reflecting 30 years of cumulative anger at a reactionary system that oppresses workers, women and ethnic minorities, indeed the vast majority of Iranians? Is President Mahmood Ahmadinejad a "nationalist-populist," as claimed by some, and therefore an ally against US domination around the world? Or is he a repressive, authoritarian leader who actually hurts the struggle against US hegemony?

    Let's take a look. But first a quick note.

    As far as I can tell, none of these leftist critics have actually visited Iran, at least not to report on the recent uprisings. Of course, one can have an opinion about a country without firsthand experience there. But in the case of recent events in Iran, it helps to have met people. It helps a lot.

    The left-wing Doubting Thomas arguments fall into three broad categories.

    1. Assertion: President Mahmood Ahmadinejad won the election, or at a minimum, the opposition hasn't proved otherwise.

    Michael Veiluva, Counsel at the Western States Legal Foundation (representing his own views) wrote on the Monthly Review web site:

    "[US peace groups] are quick to denounce the elections as 'massively fraudulent' and generally subscribe to the 'mad mullah' stereotype of the current political system in Iran. There is a remarkable convergence between the tone of these statements and the American right who are hypocritically beating their chests over Iran's 'stolen' election.

    Bartle Professor (Emeritus) of Sociology at Binghamton University, New York, James Petras wrote:

    "[N]ot a single shred of evidence in either written or observational form has been presented either before or a week after the vote count. During the entire electoral campaign, no credible (or even dubious) charge of voter tampering was raised."

    Actually, Iranians themselves were very worried about election fraud prior to the vote count. When I covered the 2005 elections, Ahmadinejad barely edged out Mehdi Karoubi in the first round of elections. Karoubi raised substantive arguments that he was robbed of his place in the runoff due to vote fraud. But under Iran's clerical system, there's no meaningful appeal. So, as he put it, he took his case to God.

    On the day of the 2009 election, election officials illegally barred many opposition observers from the polls. The opposition had planned to use text messaging to communicate local vote tallies to a central location. The government shut down SMS messaging! So the vote count was entirely dependent on a government tally by officials sympathetic to the incumbent.

    I heard many anecdotal accounts of voting boxes arriving pre-stuffed and of more ballots being printed than are accounted for in the official registration numbers. It seems unlikely that the Iranian government will allow meaningful appeals or investigations into the various allegations about vote rigging.

    A study by two professors at Chatham House and the Institute of Iranian Studies at University of St. Andrews, Scotland, took a close look at the official election results and found some major discrepancies. For Ahmadinejad to have sustained his massive victory in one-third of Iran's provinces, he would have had to carry all his supporters, all new voters, all voters previously voting centrist and about 44 percent of previous reformist voters.

    Keep in mind that Ahmadinejad's victory takes place in the context of a highly rigged system. The Guardian Council determines which candidates may run based on their Islamic qualifications. As a result, no woman has ever been allowed to campaign for president and sitting members of parliament were disqualified because they had somehow become un-Islamic.

    The constitution of Iran created an authoritarian theocracy in which various elements of the ruling elite could fight out their differences, sometimes through elections and parliamentary debate, sometimes through violent repression. Iran is a classic example of how a country can have competitive elections without being democratic.

    2. Assertion: The US has a long history of meddling in Iran, so it must be behind the current unrest.

    Jeremy R. Hammond writes in the progressive web site Foreign Policy Journal: "[G]iven the record of US interference in the state affairs of Iran and clear policy of regime change, it certainly seems possible, even likely, that the US had a significant role to play in helping to bring about the recent turmoil in an effort to undermine the government of the Islamic Republic.

    Eric Margolis, a columnist for Quebecor Media Company in Canada and a contributor to The Huffington Post, wrote:

    "While the majority of protests we see in Tehran are genuine and spontaneous, Western intelligence agencies and media are playing a key role in sustaining the uprising and providing communications, including the newest electronic method, via Twitter. These are covert techniques developed by the US during recent revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia that brought pro-US governments to power."

    Both authors cite numerous cases of the US using covert means to overthrow legitimate governments. The CIA engineered large demonstrations, along with assassinations and terrorist bombings, to cause confusion and overthrow the parliamentary government of Iran's Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953. The US used similar methods in an effort to overthrow Hugo Chavez in Venezuela in 2002. (For more details, see my book, "Dateline Havana: The Real Story of US Policy and the Future of Cuba.")

    Hammond cites my book, "The Iran Agenda" and my interview on Democracy Now to show that the Bush administration was training and funding ethnic minorities in an effort to overthrow the Iranian government in 2007.

    All the arguments are by analogy and implication. Neither the above two authors, nor anyone else of whom I am aware, offers one shred of evidence that the Obama administration has engineered, or even significantly influenced, the current demonstrations.

    Let's look at what actually happened on the ground. Tens of millions of Iranians went to bed on Friday, June 12, convinced that either Mousavi had won the election outright or that there would be a runoff between him and Ahmadinejad. They woke up Saturday morning and were stunned. "It was a coup d'etat," several friends told me. The anger cut across class lines and went well beyond Mousavi's core base of students, intellectuals and the well-to-do.

    Within two days, hundreds of thousands of people were demonstrating peacefully in the streets of Tehran and other major cities. Could the CIA have anticipated the vote count, and on two days notice, mobilized its nefarious networks? Does the CIA even have the kind of extensive networks that would be necessary to control or even influence such a movement? That simultaneously gives the CIA too much credit and underestimates the independence of the mass movement.

    As for the charge that the CIA is providing advanced technology like Twitter, pleaaaaaase. In my commentary carried on Reuters, I point out that the vast majority of Iranians have no access to Twitter and that the demonstrations were mostly organized by cell phone and word of mouth.

    Many Iranians do watch foreign TV channels via satellite. A sat dish costs only about $100 with no monthly fees, so they are affordable even to the working class. Iranians watched BBC, VOA and other foreign channels in Farsi, leading to government assertions of foreign instigation of the demonstrations. By that logic, Ayatollah Khomeini received support from Britain in the 1979 revolution because of BBC radio's critical coverage of the despotic Shah.

    Frankly, based on my observations, no one was leading the demonstrations. During the course of the week after the elections, the mass movement evolved from one protesting vote fraud into one calling for much broader freedoms. You could see it in the changing composition of the marches. There were not only upper middle class kids in tight jeans and designer sun glasses. There were growing numbers of workers and women in very conservative chadors.

    Iranian youth particularly resented President Ahmadinejad's support for religious militia attacks on unmarried young men and women walking together and against women not covering enough hair with their hijab. Workers resented the 24 percent annual inflation that robbed them of real wage increases. Independent trade unionists were fighting for decent wages and for the right to organize.

    Some demonstrators wanted a more moderate Islamic government. Others advocated a separation of mosque and state, and a return to parliamentary democracy they had before the 1953 coup. But virtually everyone believes that Iran has the right to develop nuclear power, including enriching uranium. Iranians support the Palestinians in their fight against Israeli occupation, and they want to see the US get out of Iraq.

    So if the CIA was manipulating the demonstrators, it was doing a piss poor job.

    Of course, the CIA would like to have influence in Iran. But that's a far cry from saying it does have influence. By proclaiming the omnipotence of US power, the leftist critics ironically join hands with Ahmadinejad and the reactionary clerics who blame all unrest on the British and US.

    3. Assertion: Ahmadinejad is a nationalist-populist who opposes US imperialism. Efforts to overthrow him only help the US.

    James Petras wrote: "Ahmadinejad's strong position on defense matters contrasted with the pro-Western and weak defense posture of many of the campaign propagandists of the opposition.."

    "Ahmadinejad's electoral success, seen in historical comparative perspective, should not be a surprise. In similar electoral contests between nationalist-populists against pro-Western liberals, the populists have won. Past examples include Peron in Argentina and, most recently, Chavez of Venezuela, [and] Evo Morales in Bolivia."

    Venezuela's Foreign Ministry wrote on its web site:

    "The Bolivarian Government of Venezuela expresses its firm opposition to the vicious and unfounded campaign to discredit the institutions of the Islamic Republic of Iran, unleashed from outside, designed to roil the political climate of our brother country. From Venezuela, we denounce these acts of interference in the internal affairs of the Islamic Republic of Iran, while demanding an immediate halt to the maneuvers to threaten and destabilize the Islamic Revolution."

    From 1953-1979, the Shah of Iran brutally repressed his own people and aligned himself with the US and Israel. After the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Iran brutally repressed its own people and broke its alliance with the US and Israel. That apparently causes confusion for some on the left.

    I have written numerous articles and books criticizing US policy on Iran, including Bush administration efforts to overthrow the Islamic government. The US raises a series of phony issues, or exaggerates problems, in an effort to impose its domination on Iran. (Examples include Iran's nuclear power program, support for Hamas and Hezbollah, and support for Shiite groups in Iraq.)

    During his past four years in office, Ahmadinejad has ramped up Iran's anti-imperialist rhetoric and posed himself as a leader of the Islamic world. That accounts for his fiery rhetoric against Israel and his denial of the Holocaust. (Officially, Ahmadinejad "questions" the Holocaust and says "more study is necessary." That reminds me of the creationists who say there needs to be more study because evolution is only a theory.) As pointed out by the opposition candidates, Ahmadinejad's rhetoric about Israel and Jews has only alienated people around the world and made it more difficult for the Palestinians.

    But in the real world, Ahmadinejad has done nothing to support the Palestinians other than sending some funds to Hamas. Despite rhetoric from the US and Israel, Iran has little impact on a struggle that must be resolved by Palestinians and Israelis themselves.

    So comparing Ahmadinejad with Chavez or Evo Morales is absurd. I have reported from both Venezuela and Bolivia numerous times. Those countries have genuine mass movements that elected and kept those leaders in power. They have implemented significant reforms that benefitted workers and farmers. Ahmadinejad has introduced 24 percent annual inflation and high unemployment.

    As for the position of Venezuela and President Hugo Chavez, they are simply wrong. On a diplomatic level, Venezuela and Iran share some things in common. Both are under attack from the US, including past efforts at "regime change." Venezuela and other governments around the world will have to deal with Ahmadinejad as the de facto president, so questioning the election could cause diplomatic problems.

    But that's no excuse. Chavez has got it exactly backward. The popular movement in the streets will make Iran stronger as it rejects outside interference from the US or anyone else.

    This is no academic debate or simply fodder for bored bloggers. Real lives are at stake. A repressive government has killed at least 17 Iranians and injured hundreds. The mass movement may not be strong enough to topple the system today but is sowing the seeds for future struggles.

    The leftist critics must answer the question: Whose side are you on?

  

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Freelance foreign correspondent Reese Erlich covered the recent elections in Iran and their aftermath. He is the author of "The Iran Agenda: the Real Story of US Policy and the Middle East Crisis" (Polipoint Press).

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When the author is posing

When the author is posing for photos under the reactionary flag of some thirty years ago (rejecting any notions of Republic, in favor of a Monarchy), she forfeits the right to pontificate about "confusion" of the left! There is no confusion, the Operation Ajax redux was tried as in Venezuela and only succeeded in outing the SIS assets. As for the rest of the verbiage; humbug!

Thanks, Reese, for your

Thanks, Reese, for your excellent summary. It was extremely helpful. With respect to the nuclear issue, what should the U.S. do now?

CIA meddling is a fact. But

CIA meddling is a fact. But so is the repressiveness of iranian society as imposed by a theocracy... a style of theocracy that no self respecting progressive or leftist would tolerate living under themselves. And they generally tend to forget the thousands of leftists who've been imprisoned, tortured, executed or even just marginalized by this oppressive islamicist government. To discount the interference by the CIA is to be heavily short sighted and even condescending and dismissive of the hundreds of people who're marching against this regime and to ignore the will of a large segment of people. So maybe the CIA mostly does the wrong things for the wrong reasons... couldn't some just admit that for once the CIA does for the wrong reasons the right thing?

For me, the crux of the

For me, the crux of the issue is this: --Even if the US were meddling to the extent of fabricating the entire movement on its own, which I highly doubt, the way the Iranian government has responded is unacceptable. If an external government were to plot and execute a similar protest in the United States over a similar issue, the people would protest in the streets with police support. There might be a few arrests. Meanwhile, our government would make every effort to address people's complaints-- or at very least let them know that their complaint was heard. People might not be happy with the government's response, but the government wouldn't be shutting down people's lines of communication, restricting people's access to hospitals, or going into student residences and shooting people. The idea that creating a protest might be a "plot" to create disorder in a country only works if that country's government considers itself above the people and not responsible to the people. If Iran had a government that respected the individuals that make up their nation and their human and civil rights, a "plot" like this wouldn't work in the first place.

The assumption that Iran is

The assumption that Iran is going to nuke anyone is false. If they did, they would face total destruction. Israel alone could blow them off the face of the earth. News about Iran is basically propaganda designed to keep Americans from thinking about how they are being ripped off into perpetuity. It's a big scam and it's aimed at Americans. When Americans demostrate, they don't get much coverage. The news should be about health care, human rights here, and getting the super rich to pay back what they stole.

Amazing - the author can

Amazing - the author can assert such views after the US supplied chemical weapons to Iraq's Saddam to fight Iran - yet it is given the benefit of the doubt. The untransparent National Endowment for Democracy (ala pre-emptive war and democracy by force with Viceroy Bremmer oil expropriation) monies does not even feature. The legitimacy of the struggles of the Iranian people is undermined by US interference, that should be the logical conclusion from a "disinterested" observer... poor editorial policy on this one - not up to TO standards...

Just in general, I think

Just in general, I think it's safe to say that U.S. meddling often falls into the category of either creating/maintaining instability, or supporting dictatorial types who will cater to US interests. Here we see the instability scenario, so many assume the US is involved. BUT I think the fatal flaw with that assumption is that most of the protesters in the streets of Iran seem to be truly progressive forces in the country. And I can't think of a single instance where the US risked supporting a truly democratic people's movement anywhere in the world, let alone in the Middle East.

THANK YOU for this article.

THANK YOU for this article. I have been sickened by seeing my leftist colleagues defend the baton wielders in Iran. It is truly disgusting to watch the left defend government repression on the scale that is occurring in Iran.

Closed minds are pointless

Closed minds are pointless to hear from, Smith. Weather the CIA was or wasn't involved, the protests have been reported as an uprising of the people. Just viewing comments on Twitter and other sources reinforces that in real time. The Iranian Gov actually had their agents/people write info to defend its position. The CIA would love to be at the root of everything, the sad truth is they're not. After all, how can they explain all the events that they have failed to anticipate, the Berlin Wall Takedown, The Collapse of the Soviet Union, the take over of Gaza by Hamas (and the way the election there turned out.) It's easy to go on and on. We can only hope that events will work out well in Iran as we head towards the future.

Let's not forget, certain

Let's not forget, certain interests in the US would probably like an excuse to go to war with Iran, so secret support for the current regime is not out of the question. Nor would it be unheard of to provide covert support to multiple competing factions...

For "Smith": That is not the

For "Smith": That is not the author of this piece posing under a pre-revolution Iranian flag--it's some Iranian woman in London. Please bother to read before you comment. For those American leftists who have contorted themselves into believing the election wasn't manipulated, I can only ask them how the hell they think the incumbent got an announced 63 percent of the vote when the election was widely considered too close to call. The big mistake the powers-that-be made in Iran was trying to proclaim a "landslide." Had they just said, "Hey, we got 51.4 percent of the vote, they could have avoided everything!

Reese says, "So if the CIA

Reese says, "So if the CIA was manipulating the demonstrators, it was doing a piss poor job." Well, this is only if you assume the manipulating the demonstrations was the CIA goal. I'm convinced that the CIA has a very large role in the world-wide protest against the Iranian re-election of Ahmadinejad. But its goal is not just to have demonstrations - that is a means to a goal. The goal is to de-legitimize the Iranian government so that further attacks on Iran by the US and Israel will gain more traction in public opinion. Let's not be silly -- the US intends to re-colonize Iran by whatever means necessary. Israel's fulminations against Iran are only for the convenience of US policy. But the world opposes US aggression against Iran. All of the demonstrations in Iran orchestrated by the CIA and its very many front groups goes to the goal of changing world opinion. Reese does a great job in helping the CIA toward its ultimate goal. The US has to demonize a government it wants to overthrow and all this flap about elections works in that effort. Let's face it -- Achmadinejad won by a large margin. Whatever small scale fraud there may have been is not much different than elections all over the including especially the US.

Missing, of course, in all

Missing, of course, in all of the adulation for the women's rights revolution, is the question of how the vast majority of rural poor will fare under a foreign-investment-advocating Mousavi.

The author has raised many

The author has raised many good points in this article. As an Iranian living abroad for the past 20 years, the biggest problem in the west is the lack of true understanding of the nuances in other countries, namely our "enemies". There seems to be a general effort, both on the extreme right and left, to desensitize American minds and dehumanize our conceived foes. This may not be a concerted effort, but sort of the illusion that commentators think of themselves as "experts". One thing that I believe has been lost in all these assessments, is the reference to Ahmadinejad as a nationalist-populist. This is nothing but the work of the propaganda machine of Ahmadinejad and his cohorts. He is neither a nationalist, nor a populist. None of his policies or actions in the last four years have had a nationalist notion. He belongs to a strong faction within the clerical elite, headed by Ayatallah Mesbah Yazdi, who have an agenda of a worldwide Islamic movement to facilitate the second coming of the Shiites' thirteenth Imam. There is not a shred of Iranian-ism in their doctrine. Moreover, his populist image is a sham engineered to deceive the Iranian poor in order to coerce them to vote for one of their own. Too bad that it has worked outside of Iran as well. Like most Iranians, inside and outside Iran, I am highly opinionated and have my own thoughts on the recent turmoil. But to wash it aside as the influence of foreign powers (US and Britain) is naive at best, and disrespectful to the millions of Iranians, so expressly yearning for change.

Isn't it possible that the

Isn't it possible that the Iranians are just as easily subject to CIA perpetrated propaganda as U.S. citizens are? My view is that the U.S. hasn't got any moral authority to interfere in any way in any country on earth.

Jack Purdy said: "The big

Jack Purdy said: "The big mistake the powers-that-be made in Iran was trying to proclaim a "landslide." Had they just said, "Hey, we got 51.4 percent of the vote, they could have avoided everything!" Agreed. Didn't the silly Iranian government learn ANYTHING from G.W. Bush?

Thanks for a dose of reality

Thanks for a dose of reality that escapes extreme ideologues. Right wingers think we can change a society by invading it, left wing ideologues think the CIA is behind everything. Both extremes greatly exaggerate the ability of the US to bring about change. Yes, I know about Guatemala in 1954 and Iran under Mossadegh, but that's not the same as overthrowing a totalitarian regime that is backed by both a regular army and a zealot militia. I doubt we have very many CIA assets in Iran so they can't do much regardless of their intentions. Right winger Dineesh D"Sousza once wrote that the Shah was overthrown because Jimmy Carter didn't do enough to support him, ignoring protests by millions of Iranians. Similarly, saying these protests are the result of somebody's meddling also ignore the reality of mass movements.

It is not defending the

It is not defending the violent repression of the post-election protest to point out that the election result, however quickly it was announced, was probably not rigged or fraudulent. There was every reason to anticipate just the result that in fact occurred. There are class interests involved in this struggle. The majority, rural, poor & working classes may be mistaken in supposing that the present regime is the best they can expect, but they apparently did choose to carry on with it. The urban, educated middle class may have a better vision, but apparently it doesn't look that way to the majority. In any case, the US should butt out.

R.M has nailed it in my

R.M has nailed it in my opinion! I think the author is a little "green" in this area. This is not an either or situation. Remember, it was the Bush/Cheney neo-cons who proffered the idea of either being with us or you are against us. Let's not perpetuate false dichotomies. Fact=US has been actively involved in trying to destabilize and or de-legitimize Iran's current government. Fact=Us has NO MORAL AUTHORITY and can not throw stones while it continues to live in it's OWN glass house. Fact=Large sections of the Iranian population are disenchanted with the current government. Even LARGE segments of the US population were unhappy with Bush/Cheney and many of the demonstrations against that regime were scarcely covered and given scant and biased analysis. Fact=There is no monolithic "LEFT". When referring to "The Left", try and be specific because not everyone who is considered "Left" is Left. Those who ARE don't always agree on every issue either.

The closing 45 words of

The closing 45 words of Reese Erlich's "Iran and Leftist Confusion" (July 1) read:

A repressive government has killed at least 17 Iranians and injured hundreds. The mass movement may not be strong enough to topple the system today but is sowing the seeds for future struggles. The leftist critics must answer the question: Whose side are you on?

Although I can't pull incontestable evidence from my back pocket (though do see Seymour Hersh: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh ), does Erlich honestly expect us to believe that there has been no U.S. interference in the lives of Iran's 70 million people these past six-years-plus? Can Erlich produce one shred of evidence that the U.S. Government and its allies haven't attempted to destabilize Iran? Or that the Obama administration cut-off the destabilization campaign of its predecessor some time prior to June 12?

In lieu of such proof, why the rush to deny that the U.S. Government and its allies have played any role at all in the demonstrations (June 12 - July 1)?

On the contrary, it is likely that the U.S. Government, U.S. allies, and armed groups sponsored by them have killed more than 17 Iranians and injured a number unknown since the current round of destabilizing Iran kicked-off some time after "Mission Accomplished" was announced from the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003.

What is more, taking our starting point as the month of October 2001, the U.S. Government and U.S. allies have killed hundreds of thousands and probably well in excess of 1 million foreign nationals (i.e., not just 17 Iranians), injuring unknown numbers, driving literally millions from their homes, and detaining and torturing thousands of others.

We all can agree with Reese Erlich that these matters are "no academic debate or simply fodder for bored bloggers," and that "Real lives are at stake."

But which side is Reese Erlich on?

3 quotes 'The leftist

3 quotes 'The leftist critics must answer the question: Whose side are you on?' 'But which side is Reese Erlich on?' 'You're either with us or against us.'

from "The confessions of an

from "The confessions of an economic hit man" by John Perkins. Regarding Iran in 1951, how Mohammad Mossadegh was overthrown." Instead of sending in the marines, Washington dispatched CIA agent Kermit Roosevelt ( Theodore's grandson). He performed brilliantly, winning the hearts of people through Payoffs & threats. He then enlisted them to organize a series of streets riots & violent demonstrations, which created that Mossadegh ws both unpopular & inept. The Pro -American Shah became an unchallenged dictator". P18 of the book, a New York Time Best Seller. I am not on the Left or the right but I want the truth!!!

Thanks Reese, this clears up

Thanks Reese, this clears up a lot for me. I do however agree with those that think (with no concrete evidence but just going on past and present practice) that the CIA is busy in Iran. Whether it was the main force in the streets of Iran, perhaps not but we can assume it was there. I also think that the CIA-directed groups would think of contingencies and opportunities, so that they wouldn't solely rely on one scenario nor be so lax that they would be caught off guard with an unanticipated scenario of fraud and possible unrest. I do however agree with the sentiment that the people in the streets are in the main for freedom from any type of domination including the U.S.

I've responded to Mr.

I've responded to Mr. Erlich's article, and his inclusion of me in it, here: http://hammond.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2009/06/28/reese-elrich-responds-to-fpj-on-iran-election-article/

Sounds like Erlich was just

Sounds like Erlich was just talking to yuppies in Teheran and other "major cities", who can twitter in English. But the vote was most likely won by the majority countryside peasants, who don't twitter and speak only Farsi. Just like rural America frequently carries the vote in the US. It's a simple fact, the countryside trumps the cities numerically and is simply more conservative. To really get the story you have to travel far and wide, not just stick to the major cities. In Bosnia the press got it wrong when they stayed holed up in in the Sarajevo Holiday Inn instead of getting the story from the larger region - which was quite a different story if they only had bothered to go there. I know, I covered Bosnia for over three years, from all sides. Here in our town we have a vocal group of Iranian emigrants, protesting every day. They say they speak for Iran, but they only speak for a small minority, the educated upper class - there is not a peasant among them. And how could there be anyway, to live and work in Europe you can't be a Iranian peasant. Ditto in Teheran, the protesters are speaking for themselves, not Iran. It seems Erlich quotes a lot of academics, but didn't do his home work, which is to do his research where the majority is - the countryside. It can be messy sometimes.

Much the same problem here

Much the same problem here in the UK, although we have the added problem of 'progressives' and leftists who are terrified of being seen to criticise Islam per se. How then to deal with an uprising against...... an Islamic Republic? A similar problem has struck GB Muslim organisations, who can hardly be seen to be coming down against democracy, but would, very often, much prefer to see Iran stay rather like it is. Mr Ahmadenijad is not the only person rather glad to see the demonstrations fade away....

Reese, what you ought to

Reese, what you ought to point to this Leftist crowd is that Khomeini was enabled to take in Iran in 1979 in the first place by covert and overt US support for Khomeini!! Zbigniew Brzezinski, jimmy carter's man, was pulling a lot of pro-Khomeini strings at that time. Those who see a CIA conspiracy behind the demonstrations in Iran today should explain why the CIA/State Department would have switched sides to those against A-jad after supporting Khomeini's takeover in the first place.

Delighted that your very

Delighted that your very readable, educational,informative article is being posted many places. thank you for your careful scholarship, shared in your writing.

Well, since few in this

Well, since few in this thread mind commenting based on assumptions and long-held beliefs, I'll jump right in! If the CIA has any influence in Iran it is not at the level of organizing mass street demos. Ever try to organize one? Why wouldn't those people naturally want the theocracy to lighten up and chill a little? They got an opening when the Ruling Council broke the deal. The deal was: the RC picks the candidates and the people pick among them. A point I have seen made nowhere: the Supreme Leader actually let the crowds spout off for a week before he declared them dangerous. This brief respite and breather brought to you by the absence of outside enemies, namely Bush and Saddam. Now, if he thought the CIA was behind this, do you think he would have let it play out so long?