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Pelosi: House Democrats Have the Votes on Health Care

by: David Espo  |  The Associated Press

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. (Photo: Reuters)

    Washington - Democrats command the votes needed to pass a sweeping health care bill through the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday, an unexpected statement that quickly drew a biting response from conservative members of the party's rank-and-file demanding changes in President Barack Obama's trademark legislation.

    The House's top Democrat also signaled strongly that lawmakers will soon incorporate a provision to curtail growth in Medicare costs into the legislation, although she said it would be done in a way that "respects the prerogatives" of Congress.

    The White House and conservative lawmakers want to empower an independent commission to order changes in spending within the giant government health care program for seniors, subject to veto by the House and Senate.

    While Pelosi said she has "no question" that Democrats have the votes they need, she stopped short of promising the full House would act on the legislation before beginning a monthlong vacation at the end of July.

    "We are waiting to see what the president says, and what the Senate will do," she said.

    Pelosi spoke as White House officials and Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, met with moderate and conservative Democrats who have stalled progress on the bill, demanding numerous changes as the price of their support.

    Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-La., expressed unhappiness at the Speaker's words. "I've been meeting to death, so if that has been for naught until they counted votes, and just to occupy our time, I'm sorry," he said.

    "I thought we were legitimately having conversations about writing a good health care bill for America."

    Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., who also has been involved in days of private negotiations, said he believed the Speaker was mistaken when she said Democrats have the votes to prevail.

    Separately, Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee met privately to consider changes in the legislation they pushed through last week.

    Across the Capitol, a small group of senators of both parties continued a daily series of meetings aimed at producing a bipartisan agreement. There was no visible sign they were close to an accord, and officials said it appeared that hopes of holding a vote in the Senate before the congressional vacation were gone.

    Pelosi's statement was her most optimistic to date on the prospects for health care legislation, and came a few hours before a prime-time presidential news conference where the president once again urged Congress to act.

    "We will pass reform that lowers cost, promotes choice and provides coverage that every American can count on. And we will do it this year," Obama said in excerpts of an opening statement that the White House distributed in advance.

    Since returning from an overseas trip more than a week ago, Obama has spoken in public on a near daily basis about his desire for legislation to expand health coverage while reducing the skyrocketing growth in costs.

    In recent days, though, public opinion polls have shown a leveling off in support for his proposals, and emboldened Republicans have stepped up their criticism. One, Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C. has predicted that health care could turn into Obama's "Waterloo" if the legislation is blocked.

    The president referred to the political struggle, as well. "This isn't about me," he said in the excerpts. "I have great health insurance and so does every member of Congress."

    In an interview with The Washington Post, Obama expressed confidence that both the House and Senate versions of health care legislation would include some provision along the lines he proposed to curtail the growth of Medicare far into the future. He also spoke favorably of a tax on health care benefits if their cost goes up too fast each year. He said the Senate Finance Committee was discussing a variation that "goes after the insurance company, as opposed to directly taxing the benefits."

    Pelosi's remarks were uttered at a news conference designed to showcase the difficulties that can result from a lack of insurance or insufficient coverage, and appeared aimed in part at recovering some of the political momentum.

    "You are a part of history and you are watching the legislative process at work, and it will take some time," she said. "But we are going to do it right and it will lower cost, improve quality, expand choices, be fully paid for and make America healthier ..." she said.

    Democratic leaders have said any legislation would bar insurance companies from denying coverage or charging higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions.

    In general, the bills would provide federal subsidies for lower income families unable to afford coverage, part of an effort to dramatically reduce the ranks of the uninsured.

    The House bill includes a provision for the government to sell insurance in competition with private companies, a provision strenuously opposed by industry.

    The legislation appeared on course last week, until Douglas Elmendorf, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, said it lacked steps to control the costs of health care in the future.

    On Friday, Obama called for lawmakers to include a provision to change that, specifically requesting creation of an independent board that would have the power to set payment rates for doctors, hospitals and other providers under Medicare.

    But in a fresh sign of the challenges, the American Hospital Association urged its members to oppose the provision, saying it could "hit future hospital reimbursements hard." The AHA joined other hospital organizations recently in agreeing to cut more than $150 billion over the next decade from projected Medicare payments. Officials could not be reached to say whether that deal might be reconsidered in view of the proposed change to the legislation.

    The administration's legislation, as well as a competing bill backed by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., would both dramatically reduce the clout that Congress has in setting payment rates, a change that has drawn opposition from numerous lawmakers. At the same time, they are designed to clamp down significantly on future costs.

    Rockefeller's bill, for example, limits Medicare's growth to 1.5 percent a year, until the program is financially solvent, regardless of the rate of inflation.

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    Associated Press reporters Erica Werner and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this story.

  

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Funny how all that 'free

Funny how all that 'free market' rhetoric that gets trotted out whenever US jobs are shipped overseas evaporates when the insurance industry is faced with actual free market competition. Quite an indictment of our profiteering system.

Fixing the

Fixing the illness-maintenance aspects of the current system has to happen before practicable change can work. Part of the challenge of that is that the illnesses maintained vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Oregon got waivers to put in its health plan. The people who have the Oregon Health Plan have been pleased with it as far as I can tell. If its ways of operating were carefully explained to people, I believe it would get substantial participation from customers who would pay reasonable premiums and subsidize those who could not pay market-rate premiums. If in-kind donations were added to the mix, even substantially alter-abled people could find ways to give back with their time and skills, which is profoundly therapeutic. Some people believe in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, but some believe a need for good work comes before a need for food. No work, and some people will not eat, to the point of dying. What's more, because the plan is not owned by doctors and pharmaceutical companies, effective non-Western remedies with proven efficacy could be added to the mix for those who would choose these ways (me, e.g.). We need to get away from systems that treat humans as if they were widgets all come from the same factory, with interchangeable parts. Furthermore, I don't think the notion of Health Savings Accounts should be removed. People value what they put money into. Widening the usage to include exercise might get the gym lobbiests on the wagon. Seriously, we need to change our culture concerning health care. In some ways, the Obamas are well suited to do this. I wonder if Michelle does yoga. You don't get good arms by doing nothing.

If I made a couple million a

If I made a couple million a year "managing" behind a desk and had 100% coverage paid by the "company," I'd oppose health care reform, too. In fact, I'd pay lobbyists to stop any reform. I'd tell everyone I knew to oppose reform. And that's who's opposing it. The opposition to reform doesn't want it because they don't need it. They prefer everyone else pay their way, and that's what they're getting. Make them pay their own way and let's see if they still oppose reform.

Of the three names

Of the three names mentioned, Charlie Melancon and Mike Ross are blue dog "democrats" dragging their feet on ANY reform, and Jim DeMint is of the Party of No. This article is biased against reform.

H.R. 676 is the way to go,

H.R. 676 is the way to go, with the public option the next best alternative. The Democrats who are holding reform up in that respect, or derailing it, will answer in the next election. With their records on this matter closely scrutinized. I have already decided not to vote for one of representatives in the House who I voted for twice, and not so I could be short-changed on just about the only issue remaining in which Democrats have distinguished themselves in any way from Republicans. I am now reconsidering my support for another representative in the Senate, who I have liked very much in the past, despite questions from more progressive challengers in the last election, where I fell -- I'm beginning to think -- unfortunately -- on their behalf, only to now recollect their challenger and how they would without hesitation check in on healthcare for all Americans. Their name appeared with other "conservative" Democrats holding up reform. I have contacted them, yet again, to inquire on healthcare, and have yet to hear back, unsurprisingly regarding the public option. So, until that happens, I guess that one, too, won't be hearing back from me when it comes to election time. It will too bad if Obama winds up, in a second term, with a Republican majority Congress. IMO, it will be the fault of these "conservative" Democrats, only.

It's disturbing how nearly

It's disturbing how nearly all the stories printed about the healthcare debate focus on maintaining the status quo, with small gestures toward lowering costs, rather not allowing them to rise too sharply. And Medicare, that most efficient of all health programs in the US, is now the target of lawmakers who want to limit it's rate of growth to save money for this so-called reform? ABSURD! I agree this article is biased in favor of doing nothing, just like 90% of all stories printed on the subject. It looks as though big business does own the government, and healthcare "reform" is the latest proof positive.

I am beginning to think that

I am beginning to think that healthcare is virtually a war in the U.S. Our bodies the price. Likely the only thing that will bring these companies down is for Americans, in an organized way, to voluntarily risk their lives in a "virtual" civil war, by signing up for non-violent action, and canceling all their health insurance policies, together, as a nation opposed to these crooks. That would be, essentially, the non-violent equivalent, of "taking up arms" (which risks one's own life) without actually doing so in the violent sense. Figurative speaking, but much effectively in reality, marching into the halls of Congress and taking it back for the People. By putting the health insurance companies out of business for good.

Any displayed "leveling off

Any displayed "leveling off of public support" has to do with healthcare reform's shifting from single payer to public to now fighting over that. IOW, people want Obama to move Congress further left, with greater force. That he can't do so, IMO, reflects more on how Congress is campaign financed by these industries. With the public not knowing how to strategically criticize what's going in Congress without criticizing Obama. That this public disapproval should now be characterized, and dumbly, by the media, as support for the insurance companies is mind-boggling, except for the fact that many of them are financed by these industries, too. We should all organize to cancel our health insurance policies en masse, boycott payment of any medical bills, drive the health insurance industry out of business, and take back representation for the People, by thereby making Congress tax us for single payer, instead.

Pelosi's big problem is that

Pelosi's big problem is that she never learns from experience. To much government intervention is like to much Botox, the outcome can be disastrous.

Madam Speaker 3 words

Madam Speaker 3 words then...PASS THIS BILL!

I hope they come up with a

I hope they come up with a plan that will work for everyone. If we can't find something that works, we should all just stop working until they do. Like if someone gets sick why can't we do something like cutting rent for them, like we should cut rent for people who get a pink slip. I've got the red white and pink slip blues.