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Reid Under Pressure to Rein in Centrists

by: Alexander Bolton  |  The Hill

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. (Photo: Public Radio)

    Liberal activists are pressuring Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and party leaders to crack down on renegade centrist Democrats who might block President Obama's health care overhaul.

    Democratic leaders should make it clear to Sens. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) and Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and other centrists that they have an obligation to help the party advance a Democratic health care bill this fall, the activists say, and those that disregard the call and join in a Republican filibuster should face real consequences.

    For months they have been frustrated with Reid's tolerance for Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), a centrist who has kept the party waiting for weeks while pursuing an elusive bipartisan deal with Republican members of the committee.

    Now liberal activists say it is time to instill some party discipline so that Democrats can take full advantage of the power they have controlling 60 Senate seats. They have gone so far to suggest that centrists should be threatened with lack of financial support from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC).

    "There ought to be real pressure in terms of making it clear to people what is expected," said Robert Borosage, co-director of Campaign for America's Future. "They are not going to get support from DSCC if they're not going to be loyal on basic procedural votes to give the president an up-or-down vote on his plan.

    "Inside and outside the Senate, real pressure needs to be put on folks to let them know that supporting the Republican minority's right to block something is a lot different from opposing the program [on a final vote]," Borosage added, noting that it is Reid's job to put this pressure on party renegades.

    Liberal activists say centrists should be allowed to vote their conscience on final passage. Cloture votes, first to call up contentious legislation and then to end debate, require 60 votes; final passage only requires a simple majority.
A Democratic leadership aide, however, said that it is too soon to say how Reid will handle a final vote on health care reform.

    The aide noted that Democratic leaders do not know whether they will be able to coax a handful of Republicans to support a health care reform, which would make it unnecessary to pressure centrists to vote to quash a GOP filibuster.

    "We cannot and will not be able to determine how we will proceed until we know whether we are able to do so with Republican cooperation," said the aide.

    When pressed about the slow pace of health care talks, Reid has said that his job is to ensure that a bill can get 60 votes on the Senate floor. The implication is that Democratic leaders believe they need Republicans on board to make up for potential defections by conservative Democrats.
Reid, a supporter of the Second Amendment who has voted with Republicans on gun issues, has been sympathetic leader for the more conservative members of his conference.

    Unlike his predecessor, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), Reid has shown more patience with party centrists.

    Reid for example gave Baucus a lead role in fighting efforts by former President George W. Bush to privatize Social Security and this year he has waited patiently, despite mounting liberal criticism, for Baucus to negotiate a deal with Republicans.

    Liberal activists say that its time for Reid to wield more of a stick.

    "The definition of leadership is getting those who are with you on your side," said Charles Chamberlain, the political director of Democracy For America, a liberal advocacy group founded by former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (D).

    "The Republicans want to filibuster to stop the top priority of the president's agenda," Chamberlain said. "If you can't keep the entire Democratic Party in line to avoid that, what kind of leader you have? This comes down on the shoulders of Harry Reid and any Democrats in the Senate who consider themselves leaders."

    Adam Green, the co-founder of Progressive Change Campaign Committee, said: "There's growing sentiment that all Democrats should be asked by the Democratic leaders to vote for cloture and let the chips fall where they may on a final vote on health care reform.

    The inability of Senate Democratic leaders to rely on party unity on health care reform has forced them to look more closely at using a special procedure known as budget reconciliation to pass the most contentious elements of their plan.

    Under a strategy that has gained more consideration in recent days, Democratic leaders would split health care reform into two bills. This option has been discussed for weeks in the Senate but has gained more attention in recent days as Democrats grow increasingly pessimistic about winning GOP support.

    Under the split-legislation strategy, one bill would include provisions such as a government-run health insurance program, federal subsidies for individuals to purchase health insurance and employer mandates to provide insurance to workers. It would also include an expansion of Medicaid and new taxes to pay for reforms.

    This bill could be passed under reconciliation protection, allowing Democrats to use special rules to pass it with a simple majority.

    Budget rules, however, require that legislation passed under reconciliation have an impact on spending or revenues, and the impact cannot be merely de minimis or incidental.

    This would force Senate Democrats to pass major elements of health care reform that do not have a significant budgetary impact in a separate bill, one without reconciliation protection.

    Provisions prohibiting insurance companies from discriminating on the basis of pre-existing conditions; limiting out-of-pocket expenses; and those setting up insurance exchanges, from which consumers may pick plans, would likely find their way into a bill that requires 60 votes to advance. These provisions are not considered eligible for budget protection because they do not affect spending or revenues significantly.

    There is some disagreement over whether a government-run insurance program, known as the public option, would be eligible for reconciliation protection. Reid told reporters last month that the public option could be passed under reconciliation but GOP experts disagree.

    Ultimately the Senate parliamentarian will decide what can pass under reconciliation, a potentially messy process that would be subject to waves of Republican objections.

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) said during an appearance in San Francisco Thursday that she would prefer a single health care bill, according to a Democratic aide briefed on her comments. Liberal activists have expressed the same preference.

  

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"Centrist"? huh? is that

"Centrist"? huh? is that Newspeak moniker equivalent to "moderate" which is in turn a synonym for right-wing bully?

Reid caves serially. This

Reid caves serially. This time it's for real and if he can't get Senate Democrats to vote for their president, he should find a new line of work.

I am getting sick and tired

I am getting sick and tired also of those redundant centrist Demagogues who are holding back my ability to get health insurance at an affordable price. For all of the positive aspects of the Democratic party at this point and then to BOTCH the Health Care Public Option is unthinkable and unforgivable. Let the Centrist Dems get in line with the peoples' wishes or get out! Make sure they never run for office again, much less win!

Smiling Nancy needs to

Smiling Nancy needs to retract her "off the table" comment. It's time for her to act like the leader FOR THE PEOPLE - the same ones who made Dems the majority. Madam, Speaker, not just s single health care bill, but a Single Payer Health Care plan! Democrats - Do not screw this up. You may lose the cushy insurance Congress provides, and we will replace all except the House Dems who champion for this cause. Same goes for the Senate! And the President! The Great American Power Outage! because the light switch is as close as the voting booth!

"Centrists' is a misleading

"Centrists' is a misleading term for these DINOs. These "Centrists" would be to the right of Eisenhower Republicans. The article is biased with terms like Liberals when the majority of Americans want European-style health care available (those who like their high-priced health insurance from the giant corporations can keep it). Professor Lakoff is right about framing the issues and use of terms (e.g. liberals, centrists, etc.). Senator Reid should step aside as Senate leader (Boxer or Kerry would do a better job). How many of these Centrists will leave the Senate soon for high-paying executive positions in health care/insurance/Pharma corporations?

The Congress has moved so

The Congress has moved so far to the right in the past 10 years, using "centrist" to describe these Democrats is inaccurate. That's like calling gun-toting rally screamers "conservatives."

The clock is ticking. This

The clock is ticking. This is the Democrat's last, best chance for possibly a long time to find their spines and get meaningful health care legislation passed. We are well past due to enter the 21st century and join the rest of the civilized world in having a public health care option.

Dear Mr. Bolton: I must

Dear Mr. Bolton: I must request that you, and other journalists, cease using the terms "centrist" and "blue dog" to describe those politicians who would be more accurately termed "right-wing," conservative Democrats. There is nothing centrist or (merely) "business friendly" about these characters. They are anti-union, anti-labor, and often anti-choice / gay marriage. Why don't you begin a movement to re-label this group of bought-out politicians for what and who they are? Please, starting today, let's pronounce the truth that may cost them their elections next time around: RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS.

I am sick and tired of the

I am sick and tired of the weak kneed, spineless "leader of the senate" and "leader of the house". They are enablers, not leaders.

If the Democrats don't pass

If the Democrats don't pass a Health Care Bill that will SERIOUSLY help the average hard working American who can't afford the current extortion called health insurance then I too will be voting for a third party in future elections. Be they Greens, Progressives or whatever they want to call themselves.

I'm cereal... the government

I'm cereal... the government is controlled by money and unless your extremely rich they wont hear you... Larry Flynt [yes, that Larry] is calling for a general strike in order to reduce the amount of "influence peddling" and $$money$$ being thrown around in DC... first week of SEPTEMBER "and" the first week of MAY are being considered... pass it on and mark your calendars... send your vocal support to Larry

Everytime I get mail from

Everytime I get mail from the democratic party asking for funds, I always reply not until they develop a spine and start voting in favor of the American people. I will not give money again to a party that promises liberal/progressive measures, and than backtracks to conservative.

Definitely agree with the

Definitely agree with the comment that said Mr. Bolton and other should stop using the term "centrist" to describe these Democrats. They are not centrist in any way. They are conservative, right wingers who are Democrat in name only not in their policy or philosophy. Say the truth as it is.

It wasn't "real change" the

It wasn't "real change" the Democrats promised us. It was chump change. And we're the chumps.

In name only. To point to

In name only. To point to republicans as the only ones sucking up lobbyist money from insurance companies and big pharma is a mistake. The democrats actually have taken more. They may run as democrats, talk as democrats, look like democrats but in the end they are democrats in name only. We should all be vigilant of those we send to Washington. Watch how they vote. Let your vote be determined by theirs. If they sell the American people down the river, vote them out of office in the next election. Remember 72% of Americans want single payer health care. Not just a public option but single payer, universal coverage. That's a lot of votes. That goes for you too Obama. Start representing the people who worked hard to put you in office. Get rid of Emmanual, Geithner and all that slimy crowd.

The latest proposal is to

The latest proposal is to put the "public option" in a separate plan, apparently so that Congress critters can claim they TRIED to pass it. The "mandate" would be in another bill - since this is what the health insurance industry wants, it will pass easily. We can't let them get away with this!

Alexander Bolton’s

Alexander Bolton’s assertion that die-hard conservative democrats are centrists is unbelievable. They have voted with the republicans more than with the democrats. Contrary to the Washington and media myth, the center is conservative; the majority of Americans favor progressive policies. Reid and Pelosi have been caving to conservative policies since they came to power. They caved to the republicans and Bush before they won the majority and continued to cave to Bush and company after winning the majority. Now, Obama, Reid and Polosi continue to make excuses, bipartisanship, to deal with the powerless obstructionist republicans and not get the conservative democrats inline. Pelosi shows some evidence of having a backbone occasionally, but Reid is a wimp through and through. Reid a conservative from Nevada will never get tough with his conservative friends in the Senate, AKA corporate lackey central. The Democratic Party has too support its progressive base and get rid of its ineffective conservative mentality.

Did any of us really truly

Did any of us really truly expect a drastic change? All we got was a change of direction. From going toward a fascist state, to a softer, gentler form of conservatism ... what everyone else in the world calls Neo-liberalism ... which has been in the US since the 70's ... Neo-liberals think they can balance fiscal responsibility and social justice ... but it can't work if Democrats accept the far-right's definition of fiscal responsibility AND keep engaging the far-right within their framing of issues ... HURRAY for Barney Franks, for slamming it down. Civics has not been taught in public schools since the 80's ... the result is an electorate that accepts these absurd comparisons ... really??? Public health insurance = the attempt at exterminating a religion??? AND "mainstream media" goes on and on as if the debate is valid!!!! What!?!?!

Bigama is right. We need to

Bigama is right. We need to insist that the Democratic party, for whom we worked so hard in the past election, must begin to stand up and act like adults with courage of their convictions. That includes Obama, REid, Pelosi, et al. We elected them because of what they SAID they stood for. We did NOT elect them so that they could work for their own re-elections, e.g., not offend anyone. We don't want cowards. We want leaders.

Health care profiteering,

Health care profiteering, have you heard the politicos discuss it? hardly! That's the way the health care execs like it, they want to keep their 100 million dollar compensation packages as if health care delivery is just some sports paraphernalia bidness! We want to hear Obama say he will veto any health care bill that does not provide for strict limits on health insurance executive compensation!

I'm 62 with cancer and heart

I'm 62 with cancer and heart disease, and the way it's going I could die before I can get health care insurance. My out-of-pocket medical bills last year were $50,000, and it looks like it will exceed that this year. I'm looking at not getting care and dying, leaving my wife with what's left of our savings; or getting care, possibly bankrupting us, and then dying anyway, leaving my wife destitute and homeless. And all because of an utter failure of leadership. When it comes to leadership, and passion for a cause, Harry Reid has found his soulmate in Barack Obama. I'm disgusted, stressed beyond reason, and very afraid for my future and my wife's. Thanks Obama. Thanks Democrats. I want my campaign contributions to you returned. We need the money.

Take action for single payer

Take action for single payer health care. Sign these petitions and make these phone calls. 1. http://bit.ly/HR676 2. http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross 3. http://bit.ly/drug_benefit 4. Boycott Tyson Foods of Arkansas who gave Mike Ross $37,000 for his campaigns. Call lobbyist for Tyson Foods Chuck Penry 202 393 3921 and tell him politely that you refuse to buy Tyson chicken until Mike Ross D-Arkansas the leader of the Blue Dogs on health care gets the entire house and senate conservative Democrats to help get HR 676 enacted into law. Tell others to call. Send me email after you call to info@democratz.org 5. Boycott American Express who gave Max Baucus $50,000 for his campaigns. Call Joanna Lambert at 212 640 9668 and politely tell her you will not use any American Express cards until Max Baucus gets HR 676 enacted into law. Email me after you call.

It is incredible to me that

It is incredible to me that with the excitement of the Obama election and the hopes that were expressed with the election of Democratic majority, the Dems are acting as if they had to skulk around and even PLEASE the rabid right. I am beginning to think that they are as traitorous as the rabid right - just more sneaky. The Democrats will soon be seen as being totally ineffectual, creating a vacuum which will be filled with a new right wing (not conservative) regime.

So most of you would rather

So most of you would rather have your elected representative vote the way their leaders tell them, rather than their voters wishes.

This health care reform

This health care reform debate just shows that we live in a one ideology state- conservativism. So much for our criticism of one party communist states.

Hmm.. What would happen if

Hmm.. What would happen if we had a nice, old-fashioned insurance boycott? If those of us still paying premiums and not needing much in the way of medical services stopped paying them? And paid for our incidentals out of pocket? It would probably be much more feasible economically --compare your premiums for the year and what your actual expenditures for would be were they entirely out of pocket. You could afford medical tourism for something major (and get better service), could still go to the emergency room, and probably have some left over. In any case, the rate of recission (finding an excuse to dump you instead of paying up when you're really sick) is 50%. So you're very likely to get stuck for the costs and/or broke covering them anyway, only if you boycott the premiums you will at least have that to pay doctors with. It just doesn't make financial sense to pay these robbers anymore. Our deductible (for a family of 4) is $6000.!!!

I suspect that insurance companies would notice if large numbers of their best payees jumped ship. Maybe they would be more willing to negotiate to get some of them back? Stop pushing their gov't shills aka senators and congress folks to stall, block and prevent a public option? Or single payer? If their insurance racket becomes unprofitable, they will be a LOT less interested in protecting it at all costs. We need to stop being so scared and show some spine of our own.

The president should go

The president should go ahead and implement the Single Payer Plan. Since the dems are going to have to go it alone anyway, we might as well go all the way since that is what most of us want.