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Dying for Affordable Health Care - the Uninsured Speak

by: Ed Pilkington  |  The Guardian UK

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At a forum in Delray Beach, Florida, 87-year-old Roberta Crawford stands up for a single-payer health care system. (Photo: Getty Images)

    In a week of claim and counter-claim about the merits of healthcare provision in the US and UK, Ed Pilkington travelled to Quindaro, Kansas, to see how the poorest survive.

    In the furious debate gripping America over the future of its health system, one voice has been lost amid the shouting. It is that of a distinguished gynaecologist, aged 67, called Dr Joseph Manley.

    For 35 years Manley had a thriving health clinic in Kansas. He lived in the most affluent neighbourhood of Kansas City and treated himself to a new Porsche every year. But this is not a story about doctors' remuneration and their lavish lifestyles.

    In the late 1980s he began to have trouble with his own health. He had involuntary muscle movements and difficulty swallowing. Fellow doctors failed to diagnose him, some guessing wrongly that he had post-traumatic stress from having served in the airforce in Vietnam.

    Eventually his lack of motor control interfered with his work to the degree that he was forced to give up his practice. He fell instantly into a catch 22 that he had earlier seen entrap many of his own patients: no work, no health insurance, no treatment.

    He remained uninsured and largely untreated for his progressively severe condition for the following 11 years. Blood tests that could have diagnosed him correctly were not done because he couldn't afford the $200. Having lost his practice, he lost his mansion on the hill and now lives in a one-bedroom apartment in the suburbs. His Porsches have made way for bangers. Many times this erstwhile pillar of the medical establishment had to go without food in order to pay for basic medicines. In 2000 Manley finally found the help he needed, at a clinic in Kansas City that acts as a rare safety net for uninsured people. He was swiftly diagnosed with Huntington's disease, a degenerative genetic illness, and now receives regular medical attention through the clinic.

    So how does he feel about the way the debate in the US has come to be dominated by Republican-inspired attacks on Britain's NHS and other "socialised" health services which give people the treatment they need even if they cannot afford to pay for it?

    "I find that repulsive and an absolutely bone-headed way to go," he says. "When I started out practising I certainly didn't expect this would happen. I thought the system would take care of everybody."

    Over the last month President Obama's attempts to live up to his election promise to extend healthcare to all Americans has stalled in the face of a sustained rightwing guerrilla attack. Opponents of Obama's reforms have succeeded in distracting attention from Manley and the 46 million other medically uninsured, swinging the focus instead on to the "evils" of publicly funded healthcare. The fear tactics were epitomised by Sarah Palin's wholly inaccurate claim that the reforms would set up "death panels" that would force euthanasia on to older people.

    Such scaremongering has dismayed and infuriated Sharon Lee, the doctor who now treats Manley in Kansas City. "I'm very angry, very angry," she says. "Many of the people I treat have already been in front of a death panel and have lost - a death panel controlled by insurance companies. I see people dying at least monthly because we have been unable to get them what they needed."

    Lee's clinic, Family Health Care, is a refuge of last resort. It picks up the pieces of lives left shattered by a health system that has failed them, and tries to glue them back together. It exists largely outside the parameters of formal health provision, raising funds through donations and paying all its 50 staff - Lee included - a flat rate of just $12 an hour.

    Poverty Line

    Lee has just opened an outpost of her clinic in the outlying neighbourhood of Quindaro, an area of boarded-up houses and deserted factories where work is hard to find and crack plentiful and a per capita income is $11,025. A third of the population is below the federally defined poverty line.

    And yet the local health department has decided the only health centre in the area will be closed by the end of this year and moved 30 blocks west to a much more prosperous part of the city where income levels are five times higher. Before long, one of the poorest areas of Kansas - of America - will be left without a single doctor, with only Lee's voluntary services to fall back on.

    Even that is academic. Many of the residents of Quindaro were unable to see a doctor in any case - because they were uninsured. In Kansas, anyone who is able-bodied but unemployed is not eligible for government-backed health insurance as is anyone earning more than 39% of federal poverty levels. That leaves a huge army of jobless and low-income working families who are left in limbo. "It's the working poor who are most at disadvantage," Lee says.

    As a result, she sees the same pattern repeating itself over and over. People with no insurance avoid seeking medical help for fear of the bills that follow, until it is too late. "When people come in they are already very, very sick. They have avoided seeing the doctor thinking that something may clear up, hoping they may be getting better."

    Beth Gabaree, who came in to see Lee for the first time this morning, has experiences that sound extreme but are in fact quite typical. She has diabetes and a heart condition. Until two years ago they were controlled through ongoing treatment paid for by her husband's work-based health insurance. But he was in a motorbike crash that pulverised his right leg and put him out of work.

    That Catch 22 again: no work, no insurance, no treatment. Except in this case it was Beth who went without treatment, in order to put her husband's dire needs first. He receives ongoing specialist care that costs them $500 a go, leaving nothing for her. So she stopped seeing a doctor, and effectively began self-medicating. She cut down from two different insulin drugs to regulate her diabetes to one, and restricted her heart drugs. "I do what I think I need to do to keep four steps out of hospital. I know that's not the right thing, but I can't justify seeing the doctor when my family's already in money trouble."

    The problem is that she hasn't kept herself four steps out of hospital. Her health deteriorated and earlier this year she became bedridden. Even then, it took her family several days to persuade her to go to the emergency room because she didn't want to incur the hospital costs. "It was hard enough without that," she says.

    After an initial consultation, Lee has now booked Gabaree for a new round of tests for her diabetes and is arranging for free medication. "It's wonderful," Gabaree says. "I'm so blessed. I didn't know you could get this sort of help."

    That she sees basic healthcare as a blessing, not as a right, speaks volumes about attitudes among the mass of the working poor. Also revealing is the fact that Gabaree has absolutely no idea about the debate raging across America. She hasn't even heard of Obama's push for health reform, nor the Republican efforts to prevent it. "I don't watch much television," she says.

    That provides Palin et al with a massive advantage: the 46 million people who would most benefit from Obama's plans are also among the least educated and informed, and thus the least able to make political waves. All of which leaves Lee fearful about the prospects for change. She has, after all, been here before - in 1993 when Hillary Clinton's pitch to overhaul the health system foundered. That attempt ended up doing more harm than good from Lee's perspective. Many of her most important donors stopped funding the centre because they assumed that the White House was fixing the problems. After the Clinton reforms crashed, brought down by the same rightwing assault that Obama is now enduring, it took many months for the centre's funds to regain their pre-1993 levels.

    Recession

    Lee fears history could be repeating itself. This time round there is the recession more unemployed equals more uninsured people who come knocking on the door of Family Health Care. Last year Lee and one other doctor between them dealt with 14,000 visits, and the numbers are rising daily. All of which leaves Lee part despairing, part determined to fight even harder for the bare minimum of human dignity. The frustration is that every day she must beg and plead with other health providers for simple treatments for her patients. "It drives me crazy with frustration," she says.

    She rattles off a litany of horror stories. There was the man who walked into the clinic with a brain tumour. It took Lee three months to get him an MRI scan and another two to get an appointment with a neurosurgeon. Or the patient whose nerves in his neck were pushed against his spinal cord so that he lost use of both arms; by the time Lee found a way of getting him an MRI he was so sick he had to be operated on immediately. Or the woman who had such heavy periods she would wind up in ER every three months requiring a blood transfusion. What she really needed was a hysterectomy. "It took us almost a year to beg hospitals until she finally did get a hysterectomy," Lee says.

    These are the stories, the broken lives, that have been obscured by the fury generated by the Republican rump. Unless Obama finds a way to regain the political initiative, to remind Americans that only nine months ago they voted overwhelmingly for change, then the future of millions appears bleak.

    "Here's what I'd like to ask Palin," Lee says. "People without health insurance are dying, here in America, right now. So I'd like to ask her: how does that fit into your vision of good and evil, Sarah Palin?"

    Obama's Plan: Health of the Nation

    What is Obama trying to do?

    The goal is to increase access to healthcare by regulating costs. His plan would guarantee all citizens eligibility for care, but the government is not proposing a "single-payer system", like the NHS. Instead, private health insurers would continue to operate under new rules that would lower premiums and remove loopholes that allow them to avoid paying for treatment when it is most needed. Per person, healthcare costs are higher in the US than in any other country, and have been rising faster than the level of inflation. The quality of care is less of an issue - although citizens with solid insurance may be frustrated by the paperwork and costs associated with the current system, they have fewer complaints about their doctors and hospitals.

    Who's opposing Obama's plan?

    Those who fear the government would introduce congressional "death panels" to make end-of-life decisions for the elderly. The insurance industry is worried about their bottom lines. Members of Congress and voters on the left and right are concerned about the future tax burden. Many Americans also object to any increase in government involvement in their personal lives.

    How can healthcare costs get so out of hand?

    Many insurance plans do not cover "pre-existing conditions", so it can be difficult for people who have a chronic ailment to secure cover. Loopholes allow insurers to refuse reimbursement even if the policyholder did not know they had a particular condition when they took out insurance. "Lifetime caps" allow insurers to set a maximum amount of cover.

    Who are the uninsured?

    Up to 46 million Americans are uninsured, because they are unemployed, or their employer does not provide cover, or because they do not qualify for existing government-funded healthcare. People 65 and older can qualify for Medicare, the poor can qualify for Medicaid, veterans and members of the military can qualify for Veterans Health Administration and Tricare and children can be covered under a programme called SCHIP. Those overlooked by the system include the young just entering the workforce, the self-employed, the unemployed and people who work for small businesses.

  

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How can it be? George Bush

How can it be? George Bush said there was a terrorist behind every tree and under every rock and we spent and are continuing to do so by sending our poor kids off to Asia to kill their fellow man, and yet, we cannot afford to give every American guaranteed health care! A shameless situation! And now it seems Barack Obama is sliding more and more into the war mongers ka ka. Feces. Fecal Matterand other just plain old crap.

good article

good article

The howlers about " 'the

The howlers about " 'the death panels' for grandma &al" really need to know they speak of themselves--now--if there is no change to 1payer--they will not make it a grandmas to even have this choice in the future -- at the rate we are going.

Thanks for this clearly

Thanks for this clearly written article ... good grief, the truth is so clear. That we Americans should be hung up on this is stunningly bewildering. But our history has deformed us; for 150 years, the wealthy and the powerful have been battling the working women and men of this nation, busting unions, and screaming about "Bolsheviks," "the Red Scare" and "Socialism." More heat than light, fostering fear and knee-jerk responses to what most folks poorly understand, even as they cut their own throats while fighting the imaginary enemies foisted upon them by the wealthy and the powerful, who likely know the real truth of such things, but cynically use the lies to feather their own nest. To know the truth and still tell the lie is a crime of the highest order.

Excellent article and

Excellent article and unfortunately accurate! The GOP has screamed that "government is bad", "we don't want government in our lives!" So it is very curious that they still want to retain their power in government and will go to almost any lengths to get elected into government. If government is so bad, why do they want to participate?!

The problem is that "news"

The problem is that "news" sources like the AP continue to have pro-insurance headlines, and the fact that we have ACCESS to sources like Truthout won't change the fact that most Americans will only be exposed to what they read idly on headlines or overhear on tv. These sources are ALL pretending that the majority don't want to fix the broken system. Today's AP/Yahoo health care headline is, "McCain: Obama must drop health care public option". Oh well, I guess the decision's been made. As long as the guy who was SOUNDLY DEFEATED in the past election says the public option is out - it's out. Something tells me that if mccain were in office right now he wouldn't be looking for a lot of bipartisan compromises, except from within his own party. Massive boycotting of the advertisers for CNN and the major non-cable networks is going to be necessary soon. Forget about fox. It's understood that they will always run, whether they turn a profit or not. Anything short of that will only fall on deaf ears. You see, there's a simple reason why pro-single-payer attitudes are not repeated by these opinion sources: THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO. They're no longer serving a charter to provide news coverage with a pro-journalism slant. Their only charter, now, is to provide whatever their shareholders want - and their shareholders are not concerned with uninsured medical neglect cases.

preventive health care could

preventive health care could be improved if every professional sports venue insisted that every ticket had to include a flu shot. done right there before the game. at the expense of the home team. they could consider it as a tax write off. more people would be at work and school as a result, improving the national bottom line. Sick days could be cut in half and production lines producing more products. we need to think how to keep people in good health and not how to treat bad health too late.

Two crucial points were made

Two crucial points were made here: 1) The uninsured are either not able to speak out for themselves or ignored by US media when they do, so the debate is completely dominated by the strongest, richest and most securely insured, and 2) Sarah Palin's "death panels" already exist in the exclusionary practices of our current health insurance system. Evil, indeed.

USA - Home of deprived,

USA - Home of deprived, diseased, ill-educated, jobless. Nice place to get away from - if you can.

American civilization no

American civilization no longer supports life. On August 18th a caller to Talk Of The Nation said that if we don't get Medicare For All, he is leaving the USA. Many of these horror stories of the UNinsured also apply to the UNsured ... people who have been paying a premium for years only to have their care rationed unto death. These "Health" UNsurance executives and Boards of Directors should be in jail, not pandered to. The talk show host drew her breath in sharply when the caller said he would emigrate to another country if we didn't get Medicare For All. When I said the same to the clerk answering the phone for my Senator, she said," that would be a shame." I'd DEEPLY disappointed that the Democrats have so bungled this AGAIN. The message should have been "we are just extending the ages that qualify for Medicare, a program you are already familiar with." Period. End of message, end of law. NEXT bill would cover proposals to control costs. Lets face it, this isn't about saving money, those UNsurance companies have 20% and more overhead to pay for staff to deny you coverage. Medicare has only a 3% overhead. The US is failing a basic test of a civilization: To protect its members from predators. America is a failing civilization. Its only right that we alert our alleged defenders that they will no longer have our passion, energy, and tax money if they fail such a basic test.

YOU may be next. Last

YOU may be next. Last August my 33 year old daughter who had lost health insurance with her layoff and had been feeling poorly for a long time sent me an e-mail at 3 AM that said "By the time you read this I will be dead." After she sent the e-mail she drove to a tall building, got on the roof, and jumped. Watch your e-mails because if you continue to oppose health care reform for selfish reasons due to the fear messages being spread by those defending the current system, you may be the next to get a message like I did.

Please send this article

Please send this article to every member of Congress. Can't harm; might help.

The tragedy of healthcare is

The tragedy of healthcare is analogous to all other ways that feudalism still plagues our society. No, this time, not about land. Rather, it is about healthcare. That we are each indentured to whomever will pay for insurance...for a lifetime. However, because of the lack of lifetime guarantees, none of us really have healthcare security; what we have is a promise that is so ambiguous that even our assumptions approach mythological fantasy. Until the middle class under-insured are willing to take this one...because we have political voice...those that 'have' are determined to not deal with the 'have nots', hardly realizing that they are an illness, a day, an accident, a job away from crossing into the other camp. I watch this play out is great dismay...seriously not having a clue as to when the Superman or Batman will rescue us from the greed that spends millions on so few.

And it is even worse this

And it is even worse this morning...That genius of finance, John McCain, is telling the president to drop the public option, negotiate a plan that Republicans can get behind, and screw the American people! Coming from a man who has had government supplied health care his entire life, this is the ultimate hypocrisy, and if the President is foolish enough to follow this advice, he should be voted out of office in 2012 with all haste! I supported Obama and I will support him now, but unless this President gets people around him who do not pander to corporations, like Rahm Emanuel and Sec. Sebelius (former governor of Kansas), he will fail, and fail completely. If the Republicans and their Blue Dog Democrat friends win this fight, they will win every battle from now until our doomsday, which will be a lot sooner than we would like. It is time for Mr. Obama to hear from Americans, send faxes, e-mails, telephone, and write letters. Get letters to the Editors published in papers around the country demanding that single-payer, public options be available, or let your members of Congress know that they will not be going back in 2010 or 2012. We are the People who voted them in, pay their salaries and their health insurance, and it is time we started getting some bang for our buck!

Don't forget to include,

Don't forget to include, with the explanation of "who is uninsured" everyone who can only find part time work, or whose employer only hires them for 34 hours to avoid paying for insurance (even though the job could use those extra 6 or more hours), or anyone working in (most of) the service industries. In fact I find it hard to swallow that it is only 46 million uninsured, I would think the final figure to be much much higher.

As a Internist without

As a Internist without medical coverage. (I work as a consultant and severely in debt.) I'm terrified of falling ill like Dr Manley. I find it amusing that I'm a listed provider for numerous plans (Oxford, GHI, etc) that won't cover me if I fall ill. I have Hep C and I'm in remiission from Testicular cancer. I suspect that many health professionals are in the same situation but are in the "closet". My hero in all this is Mayor Guilliani. Yes, Guilliani because after 9/11 he opened medicaid for everyone, initalliy with no questions asked. Medical offices in poor neighborhoods were swanped with patients. I diagnosed many, many conditions (Diabetes, Hypertension even cancer) that folks couldn't afford treatment befrore, Why won't Obama do the same...

In 1992, I nearly died of a

In 1992, I nearly died of a strep infection in my tonsils. $30 worth of antibiotics, when I first sought but was denied medical help, would have cured me. Instead, the infection became chronic and eventually resulted in rheumatic fever and bacterial meningitis. The lost wages were a huge enough blow...but had I been one bit weaker, one bit less of a fighter, four innocent children would have been thrown into foster care. Claiming we can't afford it puts us in the position of a man who claims he can't afford to get his oil changed--but somehow, magically, he CAN afford to replace the engine or buy a new car.

That anyone, anywhere is

That anyone, anywhere is listening to anything that a complete moron like Sarah Palin is saying is scarier than the idea of going without health insurance. If this is our country's level of awareness and intelligence than we are doomed anyway, to die of stupidity. Maybe we should put out tax dollars into a research fund to find a cure for the disease of ignorance, and then everything else would take care of itself.

Insurance that is tied to

Insurance that is tied to employment is not insurance - it is a job benefit - like salary and vacation days. Insurance is supposed to insure - you pay premiums and, if you the event you are insuring for happens, they pay you. Insurance tied to employment does not work this way. You pay and pay and if you lose your job, you lose your coverage. If you lose your job because you are sick, you are doubly hurt - no job and no insurance.

The Government now provides

The Government now provides 75% of all health care dollars and does not provide health care for 75% of the people. How can you believe 100% government payer is going to give everyone health care. It will only lead to less care for all.

Mr. President. Members of

Mr. President. Members of the House and Senate. Walk in our shoes for just one sad trip with an elderly relative or friend to the emergency room of any hospital. Sit and talk, and wait with the others for treatment. Then you can make the right choices for single payer healthcare.

Death panels indeed. One of

Death panels indeed. One of my best friends over the past 30+ years died this spring. After Gov. Bush tax cuts triggered his job loss at the Texas Dept. of Corrections, he was unable to find work that had medical benefits. He later developed a heart condition that could have been treated but instead it steadily worsened. Reduced to emergency room care for the worst of these episodes, he finally died. Meanwhile, the amount that my employer pays, plus my share of the premium totals $18,000/yr for a family of 3. Whose "family values" are these anyway?

There's another growing

There's another growing group of people that get no health care if they can't buy their own, called "independent contractors" working as "consultants" rather than as employees. They have to buy health insurance -- the kind that will stiff them over "pre-existing conditions." They have to pay both halves of their social security (FICA) tax, and pre=pay income taxes in quarterly estimates. Companies love to hire such consultants because it saves them all sorts of overhead costs. Not all such consultants work on Wall Street -- those are a bit better off. Consider hair dressers renting booths -- they have to buy all their supplies, in addition to the social security and any health care they can afford after all those payouts. The American Creed has become the American Greed.

I am VERY fortunate to have

I am VERY fortunate to have worked in Washington state which allowed me when I worked at the University of Washington, to join their Uniform Medical (and Uniform Dental) programs. In retirement I continue paying into this every month - it comes out of my retirement money! At my age, all health charges are first run through Medicare - what's left is paid by Uniform Medical though there is a $200 deductible each year.

Obviously the author has not

Obviously the author has not read the bill being promoted by the Democrats in Congress and lied about by Obama. The bill not only does nothing about reforming health care, but it will make it unaffordable at its current level of quality for everyone. If reform means significant degradation, then that is what the current bill will provide. What seems to be left out of the story is why the person being used as an example was not on his state's version of Medicaid. His situation was not due to an inability to get insurance or pay for insurance, but was due to not getting a diagnosis from someone other than one of his friends for no charge. By the time the disease progressed to the point that he was loosing everything, he had waited too long. The entire situation is due to his own actions and not the fault of our current health care system. But I forgot, the liberal point of view is that you should not be responsible for your own well being - the government should take care of that.

This is what it comes down

This is what it comes down to: >> Lee's clinic, Family Health Care, is a refuge... paying all its 50 staff - Lee included - a flat rate of just $12 an hour. The general spirit of medicine in this country would have to change toward putting patients above profits. I'm not saying every doctor would have to resort to $12/hr wages; but the way it is now seems guaranteed to exclude a lot of people who can't afford coverage, while the medical system at large gains through treating an exclusive group who can afford it. It's going to be tough going, though, because of the complexity of figuring out what's really worth spending money on, and what amount of care is the whole citizenry going to be provided.

I've been a vocal advocate

I've been a vocal advocate for single-payer for about 4 years now, have written countless letters to congressional representatives, etc., manned petition booths at local fairs, and so on. However, there is one feature of the Obama plan that scares the crap out of me...the requirement that each patient have a ID card meeting the standards of the Real ID Act, presumably including an RFID chip. While carrying one of these, wherever you go - courthouse, airport, even conceivably your local KMart, if there is a chip reader at the door, your presence in time and space becomes a matter of electronic record, just as if you had signed in, but done silently and undetectably. I don't mind responding with identification when asking for services, but I don't think it is wise to let the government monitor the citizenry on an almost continual basis. The RealID Act is not getting a whole lot of attention in the progressive press, but has the potential for expanding abusive governmental power at least as seriously as the ongoing unwarranted wiretapping of electronic communication. Think about it...I know that a lot of libertarian opponents of government involvement in medical insurance are doing just that.

How do I go about donating

How do I go about donating to this clinic? I don't earn big bucks but my heart just goes out to these people. I'm 19 and in college and I hope when it comes for me to find a job, I can find a good job that has good health insurance. Of course I think it's stupid to couple health insurance with employment but I think we're a long way from people seeing the light.

I am retired and have

I am retired and have primary medical care coverage through Medicare, secondary coverage through my former workplace. Lucky me! Before I retired, I worked as a practicing family physician, a teacher of family medicine, and a public health physician, in both Canada and the United States. I have seen and heard a lot of horror stories about the way the health care insurance system creates systematic disadvantages for so many. I have worked, with others, over many years, to put bandaids on a terribly broken system. Those who are working to destroy current efforts to repair the brokenness will reap their just rewards of bitterness and shame. The rest of us need to continue to support, in every way possible, right actions. We owe this to all of the Joseph Manley's of this country. To claim that their fate is of their own manufacturing is the cruelest and most callous of responses, exceeded only by the behaviors of those who oppose the good work of reform out of political motives or blind ignorance of the realities.

Be very careful when

Be very careful when suggesting "cure alls" for any healthcare situation. I read a comment above where someone suggested giving the flu shot to everyone attending baseball games. Sir or Madame, I am allergic to eggs and have two autoimmune disorders already. Exposure to any more vaccinations would either kill me outright or give me yet another autoimmune disorder (both of which were probably stimulated by overvaccination to begin with). That's if the allergic response to the egg medium the vaccine is grown in didn't kill me. I have pre-existing conditions, my health insurance premiums have gone up over $500 a month recently, and my coverage has gone down. That's WITH employer-based coverage mind you, I could not afford independent health insurance if I could even find a plan that would take me. I grew up next door to Canada, and have several relatives who live on that side of the border. I am SERIOUSLY considering relocating if health insurance reform does not go through soon. I would be DELIGHTED to get even basic coverage of necessary services paid for out of my tax dollars. Just stop trying to force solutions on all of us that would murder me outright. Please.

Wonderful photograph of

Wonderful photograph of Roberta Crawford. I was down for medical tests the other day in a portion of an urban area that is dominated by one of America's premier medical centers. An elderly woman, looking even older than Ms. Crawford, walked down the street with a suitcase on wheels dragging behind her, and a sign plastered on her back and on her suitcase saying, "Single Payer Now!" -- or something to that effect. Yes, they need to pass a national health insurance act like H.R. 676. But that would take some chutzpah or cajones or whateveryouwanttocall it on the part of Congress. The people with cajones are the elderly people wearing these signs and who will not live to see the fruits of their actions, but live for something greater than themselves and nobler than the almighty dollar. Too bad they are not representing us in Congress. In fact, too bad just about no one is representing us in Congress. All being bribed and bought out by the health insurance industry lobbyists. I don't think I will be voting for one Democrat who isn't a strong voice of righteousness on this issue of health care for all Americans, not just some. And yes, I too, was in that neighborhood because I am being treated and have no idea what my family's destiny is about to be -- because we, too, are one step from the street. Screw Congress, Screw the Gang of Six, and Screw the Health Insurance Industry.

Please can we stop

Please can we stop pretending that Obama's "public option" is a viable alternative, something worth fighting for? The public option as it has been proposed by the Dems is too small and too underfunded to make a difference--it is doomed to fail, maybe designed to fail. The Dems are also paid heavily by Big Pharma and the insurance companies--they are not representing us. We know what works: it's called single payer. Watch out for language in a the bills that would prohibit states from experimenting with single payer...what a coup for the insurance industry that would be!

Here's something you can

Here's something you can do: Every time one of your fellow citizens, apparently an idiot, starts mouthing the stupid corporate propaganda, spit near his feet and walk away. You've got to stop letting the elite and their imbecilic dupes control the discourse.

Tara, is that why you're

Tara, is that why you're against health care reform because you think big brother is going to force you to have a flu shot?

The only way to overcome the

The only way to overcome the Global Bankers, Entrenched Media and International Traders power against health care reform is to amend the constitution to provide health care as a worldwide entitlement. The preamble to the constitution requires the elected to promote the General Welfare. What is more general and more in need of welfare than to maintain the quality of humans life? A proper Amendment to the constitution might be as follows(come on folks make them pay we want health care not insurance): proposed AMENDMENT to be numbered XXVIII : HUMAN ENTITLEMENT TO HEALTH CARE Section 1. The human citizens of the United States of America are entitled, to the very best science that scientists can package for health care providers to deliver. Section 2. No Law shall be passed which abridges, or permits to abridge, health care or health services to any human, who is a citizen of the United States by the United States, or by any State. Section 3. The United States Of America shall make available and provide timely, sufficient, appropriate and without cost to the patient health care to each of its citizens for their lifetime. Section 4. The congress shall have the power to tax the public non human entities for the full cost of providing the entitlement herein recognized. Section 5. The United States of America shall establish and maintain a National Medical University to teach and train sufficient health care professionals to provide for the entitlement obligations demanded by this amendment.

we need health care not

we need health care not insurance

Degradation of treatment as

Degradation of treatment as a result of single payer orpublic option? Totally absurd! As an expat living in France and covered by the French system, into which I pay a whopping 950 euros a year based on my income, I can attest that the level of treatment here is equal or superior to any I have received in the US. The other day I went to the Doctor for a look at a case of carpal tunnel. I paid 22 euros out of pocket, 18 of which will be returned to my bank account after I submit my stamped bill. Three prescriptions set me back 8 euros before a like rebate. The surgery itself will cost 600 euros and I'll get 80% back. If I had an acute or chronic condition the state would pay 100% for my treatment. is no rationing of care, the elderly receive all they need. What permits this level of care? A non-profit, low administration cost public health system. France is far from a perfect country but in this it has it just right. Human dignity and access to medical care are joined at the hip and this the French understand perfectly.

Who can insure us against

Who can insure us against the machinations of the Insurers and the Pharmaceutical industry? Who can treat us for anemic health care? Who can diagnose our mad psychological schism between the right course of action and the need for greed. This must be where religion comes in to ameliorate an untenable and long suffering situation but praying nor hoping should not be the only public option.

What O'bama is trying to do

What O'bama is trying to do and will undoubtedly get away with, since Americans are too lazy to find their way to the streets of the cities they live in and hold public demonstrations.....is this The insurance and Drug Industries are EXTREMELY RICH AND POWERFUL. They financially support politicians and then set government policy behind closed doors. There was NEVER any intention of allowing ANY CHANGES that will free the public from the Insurance companies or end the high cost of drugs. The Single Payer System would do this. Therefore O'bama stated from the very start that a government run NHS single payer system would be "TOO RADICAL A CHANGE" AND WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED. Which means that unless Americans hit the sidewalk and DEMAND this system and fight for it, they are simply going to get whatever the Insurance and drug industries will allow. Americans are not like Iranians or other people around the world who united, demonstrate the will of the people in the streets and try to direct their future. We just sit around talking a lot, pissing and moaning ,squabbling and believing whatever the political parties say is the truth and in the end we always get the shaft. ALWAYS! " THIS IS OUR ONLY CHANCE" to be rid of insurance premiums,get guaranteed universal medical coverage "FREE" (our taxes cover it.) and affordable drugs for life. And unbelievable as it sounds, They are still sitting quietly on their hands waiting for the politicians to hand them something. It make me want to throw up!

Here! If you can't do

Here! If you can't do anything else.... CALL OR EMAIL YOUR SENATOR AND CONGRESS PERSONS(GOOGLE: YOUR STATE NAME "WHO IS MY SENATOR/CONGRESSMAN) This will lead you to all of their contact info. TELL THEM: 1.IF THEY DON'T DEMAND A SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM " NOW" AND MAKE IT HAPPEN! YOU WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN! 2.IF THEY VOTE IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING ELSE YOU WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN! Then forward this suggestion to your entire email contact list and tell everyone you run into TO DO THE SAME! Politicians are about their own political skins before all else. Threaten to vote them out and you have their FULL attention and they CANNOT vote to support something else and put their jobs at risk. They will not vote against their own futures no matter what.

According to polls, over 80%

According to polls, over 80% of Americans back single-payer. The much-publicized town hall ruckuses are just loud demonstrations by a minority. Why then do so many so-called progressives insist that the tide has turned and that nothing can be salvaged? It isn't that the righties are demonstrating--of course they are, and so what! It's the willingness of the majority to turn round heels and fall over backward that is causing the game to be lost. Don't mourn, organize!

I work for a company that

I work for a company that does a lot of fundraising for "conservative and Christian organizations" while I consider myself a born again christian I am appauld at the blatant lies our religious leaders have shoved down our throats These shameless syncophants are Using pro-life groups to defraud Granma of her last dollar to line their own pockets while block real debate with lies. Numerous prolife groups are reading from the same script. When Pat Robertson speaks his folloers assume it is the voice of GOD and never question his facts. Instead the message gets repeated from even more pulpits across America with he same result. So when their followers are told at town hall meetings their Boogey man does not even exist They assume their being lied to by elected officials and everything turns into a shouting match. Their "minister would not lie to them. To be many have good intentions a believe they speak the truth because the 700 Club and Fox news do not find the real truth convienant for their cause. Initially they meant well and when millions dollars flowed into their coffers their were blinded by greed and their own sense Divine Providence. It must be GOD directing their hearts to give. So in the name of health care gramma gives her last dollar to some televangelist instead for getting her blood pressure medication refilled. While it may look like the RNC is suffering finacially compared to the Democrats Right wing religious groups more than fill the gap with truck loads of cash is used to fly under the radar and do the bidding of the GOP (God's Own Party). As their lies are exposed they just twist things in a little more convoluted way. Problem with corporate bureaucrats screwing up the system, ignore that and spread false fears of government bureaucrats that do not exist in the bill. Lioving wills and Hospice care become death panels ( by the way Sarah, the death panel called your kid can stay but you gotta go) Unfortunately the Jerry Falwells lead christians on masse to the GOP which allows them equate the other side as Satan and makes compromise impossible. The good news their message is growing stall and their followers have been fleeced all the way to the poor house. Soon they will be eating their own young. Instead of growing the GOP they are excomunicating all but the most rabid idealogs

About-Doctors against

About-Doctors against socialized health care- They are in the back rooms while uninsured suffering citizens get hung up at the front office.