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Greenspan: "Shocked Disbelief"

by: Robert Borosage  |  The Campaign for America's Future

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On October 23, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan testified before a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on the role of federal regulators in the current financial crisis. (Photo: Mark Wilson / Getty Images North America)

    It marks the end of an era. Alan Greenspan, the maestro, defender of the market fundamentalist faith, champion of deregulation, celebrator of exotic banking inventions, admitted Thursday in a hearing before Rep. Henry Waxman's House Committee and Oversight and Government Reform that he got it wrong.

    "Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders' equity, myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief," he said.

    As to the fantasy that banks could regulate themselves, that markets self-correct, that modern risk management enforced prudence: "The whole intellectual edifice, however, collapsed in the summer of last year."

    Greenspan spurned the Republican acolytes trying desperately to defend the faith and blame the crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act and the powerful lobby of poor people who forced powerless banks to do reckless things. Greenspan dismissed that goofiness in response to a question from one of its right-wing purveyors, Rep. Todd Platts, R-Pa., noting that subprime loans grew to a crisis only as the unregulated shadow financial system securitized mortgages, marketed them across the world, and pressured brokers to lower standards to generate a larger supply to meet the demand. Private greed, not public good, caused this catastrophe:

"The evidence now suggests, but only in retrospect, that this market evolved in a manner which if there were no securitization, it would have been a much smaller problem and, indeed, very unlikely to have taken on the dimensions that it did. It wasn't until the securitization became a significant factor, which doesn't occur until 2005, that you got this huge increase in demand for subprime loans, because remember that without securitization, there would not have been a single subprime mortgage held outside of the United States, that it's the opening up of this market which created a huge demand from abroad for subprime mortgages as embodied in mortgage-backed securities.

    But having admitted the failure of his faith, Greenspan could not abandon it. Credit default swaps had to be "restrained," he admitted. Those who create mortgages should be mandated to retain a piece of them to insure responsible lending. Otherwise, the old faith still applied. No new regulations were needed, because the markets "for the indefinite future will be far more restrained than would any currently contemplated new regulatory regime."

    Now hung over from their bender, the banks could be depended upon to remain sober "for the indefinite future." Or until taxpayers' money relieves their headaches, and they are free to party once more.

  

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shouldn't Greenspan give his

shouldn't Greenspan give his salary and bonus back to taxpayers?

This would be the same

This would be the same "shocked disbelief" expressed by Willie Sutton's mother?

"...I am shocked - shocked,

"...I am shocked - shocked, there is gambling going on in this establishment...." "...here are your winnings..." exchange between Humphrey Bogart & Claude Rains in Casablanca

What about the 1994 Act of

What about the 1994 Act of Congress that required the Fed to moniter and regulate derivatives? The Act Greenspan ignored?

Where's Ayn Rand when you

Where's Ayn Rand when you need her? Give me a break Mr Greenspan. Never let history and reality get in the way of the big unregulated celebration of greed like we have had since "Saint Ronald Wilson Reagan", and the other "Free Market" "government is the problem" ideologues. We can spend trillions on war and corporate bailouts, but we can't have a single payer health system? We can't rebuild our infrastructure? Say it again- give me a break!

Shocked Disbelief is a ploy.

Shocked Disbelief is a ploy. When they were all riding high, they didn't give a crap. They were going to come out richer than hell anyway.

This is like telling the Fox

This is like telling the Fox to watch the Hens and then walking away and trusting him to do the right thing. Government has to return to regulation and see that there is no hanky, Banky going on anymore. Monopolies have to be busted up, like the Communication industry's, the Drug industries and any other Corporations that control to much of the way the Country operates. No more Outsourcing any Government duties.

Shocked disbelief, my foot.

Shocked disbelief, my foot. Many of us predicted EXACTLY this outcome.

Dance clown, dance. First

Dance clown, dance. First you were against the FED until you became head of the FED. Then you were for trickle down economics and letting the "system" regulate itself until you saw the inevitable destruction it caused. Dance clown, dance. You should be the first one sent to prison under the "Un-American activities act". The arrogance of your testimony before the committee was appalling. You honestly couldn't believe you were wrong !!!

I'm a former real estate

I'm a former real estate broker and my son is a mortgage broker. From about 2004 through the beginning of this "greatest financial crisis since '29", we frequently talked on the phone about the disaster which would ensue when the real estate value appreciation stopped, and people were no longer fueling the economy with money borrowed against their equity, and the sub-prime loan fiasco would end. We knew it would be disastrous, and both of us were astonished that neither the FED nor congress was willing to say or do anything about it. Anyone who has witnessed over the years the cycle of boom/bust/boom/bust in the real estate market knew that after eleven years of unprecedented "boom" -- '96 through '2007 -- the "bust" would be like an earthquake. Paulson and Greenspan and their ilk now denying that they suspected this is just is just their lying to protect the GOP which was benefitting from the booming economy. They should both end up in prison, with all of the GOP members of congress who have had their hands in the cash register.

Sounds like the "maestro"

Sounds like the "maestro" hit a flat note in his orchestra of greed and deregulation. Come on, do you really think we are all so stupid to buy into the story that you couldn't predict a melt down knowing that those writing the subprimes held no responsibility for their actions? That's like giving a "get out of jail card" to someone who just created a felony! Did anybody even bother to consult the Math PhDs who created these instruments to run possible scenarios -- just in case? why bother when you know you can scare congress, the president and the treasury and ultimately the people into bailing your ass out of worldwide collapse?

Well here you have it a

Well here you have it a confessional lie from the biggest fraud perpetrator in the history of American finance Why the markets ever listened to this criminal in the first place is evidence that our entire nation should be required to take a full year of real unfettered economics just in case they don't understand what is going on now. All the pundits on MSNBC and all the talking heads should be removed from the airwaves. The Bailout what will that do? the answer lies before you.

We have heard statements

We have heard statements like "the mathematical models used for knowing the behavior of derivatives based on subprime mortgages were too difficult to understand", etc. But it doesn't take a genius to understand that when financial instruments are created based on crap (subprime mortgages), that eventually problems will occur with those instruments. In fact, Greenspan and his cronies knew that, which is why they resisted these instruments being regulated by the SEC or even the CFTC. And this is why they turned a blind eye to many of the rating agencies giving many of these instruments AAA ratings. I am sure that a real investigation will reveal numerous instances of fraudulent activity in conjunction with this debacle. Those perpetrators must be identified and brought to justice. While this will not fix our current problem, it hopefully should serve as a deterrent to those who would in the future attempt to again engage in such activities.

It's clear from comments on

It's clear from comments on this contribution that few readers of Truthout believe Alan Greenspan's sorry testimony before Congress. What has faith in something to do with enforcing the policies of fiduciary responsibility already on the books? All these so-called "experts" on capitalism are now coming out to say "I'm sorry." Well, I won't be sorry for them until they are held monetarily and criminally responsible for their actions, inept or not. The truth is as plain as the nose on your face: Greenspan, the Federal Reserve, the investment banks, the Bush administration and several members of Congress unobtrusively acted to consciously and knowingly to rob the national treasury for the sake of capitalism's sacred cow: capital accumulation on behalf of the nation's political and economic elite. If it looks like class warfare, as David Harvey, author of Neoliberalism, has stated, call it class warfare and act accordingly.

So it wasn't the

So it wasn't the military-industrial complex that did us in after all . . .

There are no free markets in

There are no free markets in America, any more than there is free lunch.The game was always fixed and Greenspan was the ultimate shill for the fixers. The past thirty years have been an orgy of greed with common sense shoved aside for the sake of uncommon expediency. Americans became infatuated by arcane formulas and dense incomprehensible mathematics to the point that they forget simple arithmetic. America wake up it was only a dream, and a bad one at that.

The only Guantanamo that the

The only Guantanamo that the United States has any business running is a concentration camp for the hundreds of wall street executives and their cronies in Bushland that conspired to defraud the American people from their hard earned dollar. What they did dwarfs the damage caused to this country by 911, (no disrespect for the many innocents who died). However, here, every single citizen is a victim of fraud and corruption on a scale that was heretofore inconceivable. Greenspan, Bush and now Paulson have done more than Bin Laden and his hordes could do in a 100 years. By the way, if you protest YOU wind up locked up for being un-American. What happened America ?

I do not for a minute

I do not for a minute believe that Mr. Greenspan didn't know exactly what would happen. There were just too many people telling him. The only thing that he would not know is the magnitude of the collapse, not that a big collapse wasn't coming. In order for him not to see it, he would have had to be on some serious medication. And then he has the nerve to say that the bankers will now be responsible after they have already paid themselves whopping bonuses out of the tax money they have managed to extract. Then there is the $400,000 retreat that was held at an exclusive spa in CA. How blind can one man be? These guys got to where they are by lacking any sort of normal moral code of conduct. They are not going to all of a sudden find Jesus.

'pink elephant' is right in

'pink elephant' is right in a way. There are free markets but these are markets that have been built on the free market idea of CRUSHING the competition so that the remaining conglomerate is FREE to make all the money because it is so vertically and horizontally integrated that it is virtually impossible for anyone else to become the competition that these clowns such as GREENSPAN, bernanke, paulson and a host of others claim is the mark of a healthy economy, its competition to help regulate prices. Only with this type of market, which is unregulated, unsupervised and unfettered, it just brings out the greedy criminals that devise plans and schemes of all types to further the profits, lower the costs to enrich the few and burden the masses. Being an economist, greenspan knows this but he was acting not for a healthy economy for all but for money pits for his backers. I call that criminally complicit in the economic terrorist attack on the U.S.A. that he was and is a large part of and he certainly is most deserving of a trial after which he should be imprisoned at hard labor and all his money impounded to help pay off the horrendous debt his 18 years of deceit is responsible. Then go after bernanke and paulson.

I just had an idea. I do not

I just had an idea. I do not know if it is original or not. Any enterprise that is "too big to fail" is too big and should be broken up as an undesirable monopoly. That way, the remaining enterprises would never need to be bailed out. Should they become insolvent, they would just be allowed to fail, and tough luck on the shareholders for electing an incompetent board of directors. And if the board is elected by insurance and pension funds, they, too, should stand the loss for not electing a better board as well. Part of standing the loss would be to fire such incompetent boards of directors. It sure would be a change from the status quo.

"The whole intellectual

"The whole intellectual edifice, however, collapsed in the summer of last year." (St Alan)"it's the opening up of this [subprime] market which created a huge demand from abroad for subprime mortgages as embodied in mortgage-backed securities."(St Alan) Ah, now I get it. The whole story told ad nauseam by the deregulating neo-conmen was a fairy tale, a building built of air and wishes, a false call to Truth. However, that wasn't the problem. The problem is those poor folks and those nasty (no doubt swarthy) foreigners who saw through the smoke and mirrors constructed by the Saint, his disciples, and his mentors to game the system. Right. Those poor folks who've paid for the machinations of the masters of the universe by their loss in income and the foreign investors who have been floating America's boat since Shrub (and his predecessors) started chopping holes in her hull are--I'm shocked, shocked--the culprits in bringing down St Alan's house of intellectual cards. Nothing like a little class warfare and xenophobia to paper over what even GHW Bush, who stood to benefit and eventually did mightily from the "intellectual edifice" saw from the gitgo that it was naught but voodoo economics. Saints don't scapegoat, so I'd suggest several years in solitary for the Saint to contemplate and truly repent them his many sins.

My best friend works at a

My best friend works at a bank. It was bought up by another bank very recently. How did the other bank do it? -With "Bailout" money! Am I the only one here that thinks that is just WRONG? I'm getting back to work on my guillotine now. All you bankers, stay in touch. "You bankers are a nest of vipers, and I will root you out. If the American People knew what it is that you do, there would be a revolution before morning." -President Andrew Jackson