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Cheney Could Not Recall Key Events About His Role in the Valerie Plame Leak

by: Jason Leopold, t r u t h o u t | Report

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Valerie Plame discusses the leak of her covert CIA status during an exclusive interview with Truthout in 2007. (Photo: Troy Page, t r u t h o u t)

A month before Valerie Plame Wilson's covert status as a CIA operative was revealed in a newspaper column, Vice President Dick Cheney told his then-chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, and his press secretary, Cathie Martin, that Plame Wilson worked at the spy agency.

But according to a 28-page summary of Cheney’s May 8, 2004 interview with the FBI and the special prosecutor probing the leak, Cheney did not recall having that conversation.

"Cheney has no recollection of Cathie Martin entering his office at some point while Scooter Libby was present and advising both of them that [Plame Wilson] was employed by the CIA," states the interview summary, released late Friday by the FBI after a lengthy court battle between the Bush and Obama administrations and the government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

The "Plame-gate" affair dates back to 2003, when Valerie Plame Wilson’s husband, former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson, publicly disclosed that he had undertaken a fact-finding trip to Niger which had disproved President Bush’s claim that Iraq was seeking to buy yellowcake uranium from the African nation.

As Wilson was going public with his knowledge of the Niger falsehood, Bush administration officials began leaking the fact that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA and had a hand in arranging Wilson’s trip to Niger.

The leakers included Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, White House political adviser Karl Rove and Libby.

Right-wing columnist Robert Novak blew Plame’s cover on July 14, 2003, in an article suggesting that Plame had helped arrange her husband’s trip to Africa as some kind of junket. Two months later, a CIA complaint to the Justice Department sparked a criminal probe into the identity of the leakers.

Initially, Bush professed not to know anything about the matter, and several of his senior aides, including Rove and Libby, followed suit. However, it later became clear that Rove and Libby had a hand in the Plame leak and that Bush and Cheney had helped organize a campaign to disparage Wilson by giving critical information to friendly journalists.

Remarkably, according to a summary of his interview, Cheney said "that the identity of Valerie Wilson and her employment was not high on his radar screen and her employment with the CIA and relationship with Joe Wilson did not figure prominently in his thinking.”

Cheney added that he had no recollection of discussing Valerie Plame Wilson with Libby before her name appeared in Novak's column.

Cheney's denials are simply not credible. Evidence has surfaced over the years that shows Cheney played a central role in the campaign to discredit Ambassador Wilson and may even have given Libby the order to leak Plame's identity to journalists. Libby's own notes showed that he and Cheney discussed Valerie Plame Wilson at least a month before Novak unmasked her identity.

The long-awaited disclosure of Cheney’s interview transcript also serves as a vivid reminder of the Bush administration’s determination to invade Iraq, initiating a war based wholly on bogus intelligence, and punishing critics who dared to speak out against the White House's assertions that Saddam Hussein constituted an immediate threat to the United States.

The Niger claim Wilson called into question showed up in Bush’s State of the Union Address on Jan. 28, 2003, as what became known as the “Sixteen Words”: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

The White House has never provided a full accounting of how the Niger story, despite warnings from several government agencies that it was unreliable, wound its way from strange-looking documents that surfaced in Italy to become a key element of Bush’s case for war.

Cheney described the CIA's decision to dispatch Ambassador Wilson to Niger as "amateur-hour" and he disparaged the CIA's handling of Iraq intelligence, which Cheney, Libby and others in the Office of the Vice President pressured agency analysts to manipulate in an attempt to portray Iraq as posing an immediate threat.

Cheney said he could not recall playing any role in the campaign to attack Wilson, who he described as "something of an aggravation."

But former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan wrote in his memoir, What Happened: Inside The Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception, that the White House’s behind-the-scenes campaign to discredit Wilson heated up in June 2003 when Washington Post reporter Walter Pincus contacted the Office of the Vice President.

“In early June, while making inquiries about what [New York Times columnist Nicholas] Kristof wrote [about a then anonymous Wilson's claims regarding Iraq's attempt to acquire yellowcake uranium], Pincus had contacted Cathie Martin, who oversaw the vice president's communications office. Martin went to Scooter Libby to discuss what Pincus was sniffing around about,” McClellan wrote. “The vice president and Libby were quietly stepping up their efforts to counter the allegations of the anonymous envoy to Niger, and Pincus's story was one opportunity for them to do just that.”

But in his interview with Fitzgerald, Cheney said he did not recall these events nor does he remember being concerned with the substance of the articles in question.

Cheney’s responses are reminiscent of the testimony of other top Bush administration officials, including former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who, on more than 70 occasions, told members of Congress he could not recall anything substantive related to his role in the firings of nine US attorneys. Recently released documents related to testimony Rove gave House investigators regarding his role in the attorney firings show him using the same line.

In fact, Cheney said 72 times during his interview he could not recall key events he was involved in — such as conversations he had with his staffers and other Bush administration officials — less than a year after Plame Wilson’s identity was leaked nor could he recall dictating a set of talking points to Libby about efforts to counter Ambassador Wilson's charges.

Finally, he said he was unaware of who in the Bush administration was responsible for the leak and added that he had no recollection of discussing the undercover CIA operative with Libby before Novak’s column was published. Cheney claims he was first told by former CIA Director George Tenet that Plame Wilson worked at the agency.

Though Cheney said he could not recall whether he discussed Plame Wilson with Rove, Libby, Martin and others, he was certain he did not discuss her with Armitage, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell or then-Undersecretary of State Marc Grossman. He added that he's sure he discussed Ambassador Wilson with Rove, but he's sure he did not discuss Wilson's wife with the Bush's former political adviser.

"For years the American people have wondered what role Vice President Cheney played in outing former CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of CREW. "While we may never know the whole story, with the release of these documents we are one step closer."

Sloan continued, "In his closing statement at Scooter Libby’s trial, Special Counsel Fitzgerald said a cloud remained over the vice president. Mr. Cheney’s near-total amnesia regarding his role in this monumental Washington scandal - resulting in the conviction of his top aide - shows why."

Yet Libby testified before a grand jury that he took his marching orders from Cheney.

On July 8, 2003, Cheney had instructed Libby to leak the contents of a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) highlighting bogus claims about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller. The leak was aimed at undercutting Ambassador Wilson’s accusations that the Bush administration "twisted" prewar Iraq intelligence, published in a Times op-ed two days earlier.

But Cheney said he didn’t recall any conversations he had with Libby or others about leaking the contents of the NIE to Miller, according to the summary of his interview with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and other FBI investigators.

"The vice president does not recall any member of his staff, including Scooter Libby, meeting with New York Times reporter Judith Miller during the week of 7/7/03, just after the publication of Joe Wilson’s editorial in the New York Times," according to the interview transcript.

Libby, however, testified to a grand jury in March 2004, two months before Cheney’s interview, that Cheney not only gave him the green light to leak the so-called "key judgments" of the NIE, but also said that the authorization to do so came from President George W. Bush.

"The vice president instructed me to go talk to Judith Miller to lay things out for her," Libby said, according to court transcripts.

According to Cheney's interview transcript, "although the Vice President cannot recall having such a conversation, if one did occur, he would have advised Libby only to use something if it was declassified.”

But again, Cheney's statement was contradicted by Libby's sworn testimony.

In court documents filed by Fitzgerald before Libby was indicted (and later convicted) on charges of obstruction of justice, perjury and lying to investigators, the special prosecutor noted that Libby testified "that the Vice President advised him that the President had authorized defendant to disclose the relevant portions of the still classified NIE.

"Defendant testified that he brought a brief abstract of the NIE's key judgments to the meeting with Miller on July 8. Defendant understood that he was to tell Miller, among other things, that a key judgment of the NIE held that Iraq was 'vigorously trying to procure' uranium [from Niger]. Defendant testified that this July 8th meeting was the only time he recalled in his government experience when he disclosed a document to a reporter that was effectively declassified by virtue of the President's authorization that it be disclosed. Defendant testified that one of the reasons why he met with Miller at a hotel was the fact that he was sharing this information with Miller exclusively."

Cheney said he had no recollection of ever instructing Libby to do such a thing.

But during closing arguments in Libby’s criminal trial three years later, Fitzgerald told jurors:

"The vice president picked Judith Miller for a reason. They went to the St. Regis Hotel for two hours for a reason. The best way to get a story out is to leak an exclusive. That's one of the times [July 8, 2003], the defendant shared the employment of Wilson's wife [Plame] with the CIA with Judith Miller. There was a focus of who sent Wilson [to Niger]. There was an obsession of Wilson. They felt the wife was responsible."

Cheney also refused to respond to questions as to whether the order to disclose the NIE to Miller was approved by Bush.

“When asked if he ever advised Libby that the President had decided to declassify the NIE, the Vice President declined to answer in view of his concerns about sharing potentially privileged conversations between himself and the President," the interview summary says. "It was clarified for the Vice President that he was not being asked to comment on the substance of his conversations with the President, but rather, only whether he ever told Libby that he had such a discussion with the President.

"In response, Vice President Cheney repeated his assertion that he must refrain from commenting to the investigators about any private and/or privileged conversations he may have had with the President."

In his book, McClellan said in early 2006 a reporter questioned him aboard Air Force One about rumors that Bush authorized Libby to leak the NIE to the media. McClellan wrote that he asked the president the question directly and was stunned by his response.

A reporter “asserted you authorized the leak of part of the NIE,” McClellan wrote about a conversation he had with Bush.

“Yeah, I did,” is what Bush’s response was, McClellan wrote. “The look on his face said he didn’t want to discuss the matter any further. Nor did I expect him to, since he had already been advised by his personal attorney Jim Sharp not to discuss any details related to the Libby trial. I was shocked to hear the President casually acknowledging its accuracy, as if discussing something no more important than a baseball score or the latest tidbit of inside-the-Beltway gossip.”

“No one else was told about the secret declassification — not Chief of Staff Andy Card, not National Security Advisor Condi Rice. When Rice was publicly rejecting the notion of selective declassification on July 11, 2003, Scooter Libby had already leaked it to Judith Miller on July 8 — at the vice president’s direction with authority from the president.”

In 2007, Libby was convicted of four counts of perjury and obstruction of justice, and was sentenced to 30 months in jail. Bush later commuted the sentence to spare Libby any jail time.

Cheney unsuccessfully lobbied Bush during his last days in office to issue a full pardon to Libby.

  

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Jason Leopold is the Deputy Managing Editor at Truthout. He is the author of the Los Angeles Times bestseller, News Junkie, a memoir. Visit www.newsjunkiebook.com for a preview.

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He can't remember? imagine

He can't remember? imagine that. Lets put him on trial and we'll remember it for him

Yeah, if I was a lying skunk

Yeah, if I was a lying skunk who did not want to get caught or even be accountable for my many misdeeds as "Leader of the Free World," I would probably conveniently forget also. The crap just continues from the previous administration. Where are the Special Prosecutors? Why are these evil doers and murderers (tortured people they captured have died, after all) simply allowed to walk with a Pension and public speaking income. We should provide them with some security and three meals a day behind one of our nice federal institutions, I believe. Special Prosecutors -- let's see what REALLY happened.

It could not be clearer:

It could not be clearer: either Mr. Cheney is lying or he has been in such poor health for so long that he should have never dared hold high public office.

Question: How can you not

Question: How can you not remember your role in a CIA leak? Answer: When you're the water main.

Cheney's apparent advanced

Cheney's apparent advanced senility explains a lot about the Bush years.

The perfidy that we all knew

The perfidy that we all knew typified Cheney's reign is, at last, seeing the light of day, even if in a hesitating, opaque manner. I am grateful to people like Jason for mining the mountain of documents to unearth the germ of truth. THANK YOU!

Cheney and his gang's best

Cheney and his gang's best defense is to plead insanity. We all will believe him. No sane person would do the things they did to US and THEM!!!

Amnesia: Acronym for "A Man

Amnesia: Acronym for "A Man Not Even Slightly Into Accountability". Syn: See "Cheney" for description of selective type of this disorder.

This is a very scary

This is a very scary article. When oh when will these "thugs" be held accountable? " I don't remember" just does not fly with the American public. It is a Federal crime to expose an undercover agent of the CIA. It puts many people's lives inn danger. How do these guys get away with this stuff? I am disgusted. DJ

Nothing new here, we've

Nothing new here, we've known all this and still all the Benidict Arnolds are out and living wonderful lives in their taxpayer's money, mansions. When are we going to say ENOUGH!! Maybe Cheney, should have gotten a brain transplant or re-adjustments instead of his numerous heart surgeries, so that he could remember stuff again, and we all know he really doesn't have a heart.

Waterboarding Mr. Cheney

Waterboarding Mr. Cheney might refresh his recollection. Holding Mr. Bush in federal prison until he's tried on federal charges is appropriate.

I wonder if ALL criminals

I wonder if ALL criminals can use that defense? Do you think that would work for bin laden, or jeffrey dahmer for that matter? He could have had a defense that went, "Gee, I don't REMEMBER whether I carved those people like a pumpkin or not". Interesting that cheney can simply deny involvement in a crime that involves TREASON. If other members of our country WHO ARE NOT above the law were accused of such acts would we be branded innocent until proven guilty, or would we simply disappear, only to be tortured until we'd confess to kidnapping the Limberg baby? Must be nice to be a member of an exclusive club of people with special rights ordinary American citizens cannot share.

Why is Cheney still out of

Why is Cheney still out of jail? He was the biggest crook of all surpassing Nixon by a miracle mile!! PRF

Cheney ought to be put in

Cheney ought to be put in the slammer and then, perhaps, no one would have any recollection of where they'd put the key.

There seems to be a virus

There seems to be a virus circulating among the Bush Administrations' highest officials that created an epidemic of selective memory. Why is this a surprise? They honed "spinning" to a fine art during their eight years in office, and there's no reason to think that they, especially Cheney, would jump feet first "into the meat grinder" at this point. There are still memoirs to market and sell.

old joke: q: how do you tell

old joke: q: how do you tell when dick cheney is lying a: his lips are moving

If mega criminals like

If mega criminals like Cheney can so easily avoid justice, while those who sell an ounce of marijuana are jailed, we see that Justice is indeed blind. Where do we go from here? Sadly, this nation is finished. America... you had a great run. Thanks for the memories.

It seems that failing to

It seems that failing to remember is a quite a bit more effective defense for US Vice Presidents and Presidents than it is for say your average drunk driver or Jaywalker. If a charge that is supported by both sworn testimony and physical evidence, can be so easily deflected by the perp's failure to remember and admit it, then it is apparently simply unnecessary for anyone to tell the truth about anything. From now on I suppose no one ever has to go to jail. We can close all the prisons and save all that money we've been wasting. All you criminals out there. Don't screw this up. Just follow Dick Cheney's fine example. If you don't remember your crimes, You're in the clear, the Jails are out of business. and nobody ever has to tell the truth about anything from now on. This reminds me of those sub-prime loan applications where a McDonalds fry cook gets to make up whatever amount of income they want to put down on the loan application so thay can buy a billion dollar house in Beverly Hills. It seems the viral dishonesty infecting and destroying the American financial sector has spread into our Justice system. Is this how nations fail?

I find it very interesting

I find it very interesting that Dick Cheney has very conveniently developed amnesia about the Plame leak. He will be happy to know that the ETs (Galactic Forces) that monitor events from outer space, have a complete record of every meeting, every word that has been discussed in secret or other wise. I am sure that they will be happy to provide the information that Mr. Cheney has so conveniently forgotten. That by the way goes for any of the events that have taken place on this planet. In effect there can be no more secrets and no more lies. Everything is part of the Galactic record. And it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth – be assured of that.

"... Cheney did not recall

"... Cheney did not recall having that conversation." Yeah...right...

Clinton has a consensual

Clinton has a consensual indiscretion while in office and lies about it--the right goes ballistic. They take him through the impeachment process. Bush and Cheney repeatedly wipe themselves with the Constitution and violate national security and all they get is a couple of editorial columns. YIKES!!!! Where's the Krytopnite?

This sort of thing should

This sort of thing should have been expected (and was by some) from men of this stature. GW Bush was never presidential material, not even close. To expect him act presidential would be pure folly. He did the best he knew how, which was about a 3rd grade performance. He was likely hand picked by people like Cheney, Card, Rove and others because they knew they could mold him anyway they wanted (and did). It might have worked if they hadn't so completely underestimated their own capabilities, which were not that good. It all played out about like you'd think it would, knowing the players. Cheney's doing exactly what you'd think a conniving, cheat would do. Don't be so surprised. Be shocked that the nation's voters could have elected a third grader TWICE! What's THAT all about?

The words "I can't recall"

The words "I can't recall" are Bushspeak for "Hell, yes, but we've got the system rigged so if I don't say anything I stay out of jail. So, up yours buddy!"

If Cheney had the courage of

If Cheney had the courage of his convictions he would have stood behind everything he did from the Iraq war intel cooking to the energy task force meetings right down to outing the Wilsons. He is a coward working for cowardly men who manipulate and threaten via proxy for the benefit of the few a the expense of the masses.

What do you expect him to

What do you expect him to say - as he laughs at the American people he rightfully considers the "fools" who elected he and Spiro Agnew ...

WATERBOARD him until he

WATERBOARD him until he remembers ... I'm certain "Enhanced InTERRORgation Techniques" will improve his Memory significantly.

Can't remember? Senility

Can't remember? Senility takes its toll.

Wow! It absolutely shocking

Wow! It absolutely shocking to see each and every republican who's questioned either before congress or by the press," not recall" so many important things. I mean, these things are pretty important like outing a CIA operative - right. Am I right? How can people like Cheney and the other republicans like Woo, Rice, Etc. go before the people of America and continually say, "I don't recall" and then follow it with "I don't recall" and then follow that with, "I don't recall"? They must have brains like Swiss Cheese. How were they ever deemed fit for public office? 5th graders have better memories than the republicans who were running the country for eight years. The next time a public official, elected or appointed goes before congress, the American people and the press and says, I don't recall, that should be instant grounds for dismissal based on senility or dementia. Are these the best and the brightest? I'll bet Woo and Rice recall everything necessary to teach their little college courses. I'll bet Cheney recalls everything he wants to about Bin Laden or the Taliban. The next "I don't recall" should be followed with a trip to the mental institution. How do they feed themselves every day, or dress themselves?

Since Cheney is so forgetful

Since Cheney is so forgetful I presume he'll not be authoring any sort of a memoir? I propose a new use of the word "cheney", as in "to cheney: to plead ignorance of something everyone knows you would clearly know", hence e.g. "he cheneyed up when we started asking him about the rape last night".

How easily he lies. And why

How easily he lies. And why not? Seems he will never be held accountable until the American people force Congress to take action.

There's something radically

There's something radically wrong with a country where lying about an affair is an impeachable offense but lying to justify torture and mass murder is not. The fact that these people are going to get away with their crimes makes a joke of assumptions of American moral superiority.

And he was coached by

And he was coached by Alberto Gonzales.

Elitism and corruption are

Elitism and corruption are running rampant in the U.S. There is no justice. How will real change occur?

Outing a CIA operative

Outing a CIA operative became treason in Daddy Bush's reign. The "she is fair game" game went all the way to the top. Cheney and Bush are traitors. Bush said "if a person(in his administration) has violated the law that person will be taken care of". Take care of them he did by commuting Libby's sentence when he was convicted. Cheney was not prosecuted. Rove was granted immunity. The outlandish outlaws raped the Constitution and Dems don't have the cajones to put the bastards where they belong. They should be tried for treason. Too bad we don't still hang em high.

When asked, Cheney doesn't

When asked, Cheney doesn't remember having been Vice-President either. He only recalls having been the President.

History shows that the only

History shows that the only cure for runaway corruption and tyranny is armed revolution. The present government cannot be reformed. It has to be replaced. Americans fought to free themselves of this type of corruption before, and they will have to do it again. Those are the facts, like it or not.

He apparently has selective

He apparently has selective holes in his head.

I often think that the

I often think that the unbalance lies in the un-luck of the draw with regards to the special prosecutors appointed to investigate Clinton and Plamegate. Maybe the apparatus was rigged to be bias against a dem president, but both Kenneth Starr and Patrick Fitzgerald were both given wide leeway to investigate crimes but both took completely opposite tacks. Starr was commissioned to investigate Whitewater, and when he found no wrongdoing, went on a personal mission to destroy Clinton's presidency by whatever he could find. Fitzgerald was given wide leeway by James Comey to investigate wrongdoing, but kept his prosecutions very narrow and streamlined only on what he knew would be a slam dunk for him to win in court. Had he been the preening publicity hound that constantly leaked to the press that the dirtbag Kenneth Starr proved to be, the entire Bush white house could have been stopped cold in its tracks before causing all the more damage that they did in a second term. Cheney could have resigned like Agnew did in disgrace and Bush could have been exposed as a prime mover in the action to discredit Wilson and the cover-up. Problem is, with such an amoral republican congress there would not have been one republican with the mores of a Barry Goldwater willing to impeach the president of their own party. This would certainly have roused the people to vote out the republican congress two years earlier, and perhaps a new democratic administration in the white house could have played the impeachment process over whatever objections Nancy Pelosi might have had.

If this Republican bunch

If this Republican bunch were so sure they were doing the best/right thing at that time, why do they deny or refuse to stand up for those things now?