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Many House Democrats Still Resist Health Care Bill

by: David Lightman and William Douglas  |  McClatchy Newspapers

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House Democrats not yet unified on Democratic Health Care bill being considered today on the hill. (Illustration: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t; Adapted From: cheukiecfu, publicenergy / Flickr)

Washington - Democrats in the House of Representatives struggled Friday to find enough votes to pass sweeping health care legislation, as lawmakers prepared for an all-day debate and perhaps a final vote on the bill Saturday.

President Barack Obama was scheduled to visit Capitol Hill early Saturday to give the House's 258 Democrats a pep talk and a push to back the top priority on his 2009 domestic agenda - although White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday that Obama's schedule is subject to change.

Democratic leaders Friday found increasing numbers of their conservative and moderate caucus members - even some liberals - ready to vote no for a variety of reasons, including concern about the bill's abortion and immigration policies as well as qualms about its economic impact. In addition, the entire House will be up for election next year.

"There are many people who are still trying to get a comfort level that this is the right thing to do," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D- Md.

A lot of Democrats said they don't feel comfortable.

"I don't think there are 218 votes there right now," said Rep. Artur Davis, D- Ala., citing the number needed to pass the House. Davis, who's running for governor in Alabama next year, planned to vote no because of concerns about the bill's impact on business, and its funding.

If he goes to Capitol Hill Saturday, Obama is expected to reiterate the points in a statement the White House issued Friday giving the measure strong support.

The bill, it said, "meets the president's criteria for health insurance reform," and "will provide needed insurance reforms for Americans with insurance, expand coverage for those who do not have insurance, lower costs for families and businesses, and begin to reduce the nation's deficit."

The bill would create a government-run health insurance plan, or public option, to compete with private insurers. People could keep the coverage they now have, while a health exchange, or marketplace, would be created so consumers could easily shop for policies.

Insurers wouldn't be able to deny anyone coverage because of pre-existing conditions and couldn't charge anyone higher premiums solely because of gender.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that, under this legislation, by 2019, 96 percent of eligible Americans would have health care coverage, up from the current 83 percent. The CBO estimates the plan's 10-year cost at $891 billion, financed by tax increases and spending cuts, and that it would reduce the federal budget deficit by $109 billion over 10 years.

House Democratic leaders hope to take an up-or-down vote on the proposal Saturday, but they warn that it could slip to as late as Tuesday.

Republicans will be allowed to offer an alternative on Saturday, but it's expected to be defeated easily in the Democratic-majority body.

No Republicans are expected to back the Democratic health care plan, and at least 25 Democrats are expected to oppose it.

That means Democratic leaders can't afford to lose many more.

At least 20 Democrats could walk away from the bill if their concerns about abortion aren't met. Currently, a 32-year-old law prohibits federal funds from being used for abortion except in cases of rape or incest, or in which a woman's life is in danger.

The House Democratic bill says that no federal money would be used for abortion services unless a pregnancy was the result of a rape, incest or endangered a woman's life. Only private funds, generated by the patients' private monthly premium payments, could be used to pay for abortion services under other conditions.

Neither side of the abortion debate is satisfied with that. Abortion rights advocates view the bill as having the potential to make it harder for women to get elective abortions from private insurance plans, while abortion opponents think it will be difficult to keep government money separate.

Democratic leaders have been in talks with members all week about the language, and are expected to produce new language clarifying the bill's position.

They're also trying to figure out ways to make the bill's policies on illegal immigration more acceptable.

Rep. Raul Grijalva, D- Ariz., said that many Hispanic lawmakers aren't happy with language backed by the White House that would prohibit illegal immigrants from buying health insurance within a proposed new marketplace, or exchange, even if they use their own money to purchase it from private companies.

"It's going to make it difficult for a lot of us - we communicated that to the leadership," Grijalva said. "It's difficult for me."

Other Democrats made it clear Friday that their unease is triggered by more than those two issues.

Davis was typical of members from conservative states. He thought the measure put too heavy a burden on business, and he disliked how the bill relies too heavily on higher income taxes on the wealthy.

One key revenue-raiser would be a surcharge on single filers with adjusted gross incomes of more than $500,000 and joint filers earning more than $1 million. A lot of Democrats have problems with that.

"The worst thing we could do during a recession is raise taxes, and this bill does just that," said Rep. Dan Boren, D- Okla.

"We need to pay for the bill through the health care system," Davis said, citing the Senate idea of taxing high-end insurance policies.

Even though the CBO said the bill would reduce the deficit over the next 10 years, some Democratic moderates were skeptical.

"I fear this bill will not reduce long-term costs, and our debt and deficits will suffer and balloon in the years ahead," said Rep. Bobby Bright, D- Ala., a freshman.

"I don't think they (Democratic leaders) have done enough to address the costs at the root of this problem," said Rep. Frank Kratovil, D- Md., another freshman. "I have genuine concerns in terms of the deficit."

The skeptics have one common thread: Most think the health care system needs fixing, but not this way. Many face potentially difficult re-election campaigns a year from now.

"While the health care reform bill before the U.S. House of Representatives has many positive elements, I believe that it does not do enough to slow the growth of health care costs and spending on care," said Rep. Suzanne Kosmas, D- Fla., also a first-termer.

"Health care reform legislation in the House has come incredibly far from where it was when we began this discussion," added Rep. Travis Childers, D- Miss., another freshman. "But we need to get this legislation right, not just get it fast."

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Dump the mandate. There are

Dump the mandate. There are simply inadequate cost controls in the legislation. The public option, at best, is weak and ineffective. In the end, all we are getting is a bailout for the insurance industry, which will have direct access to American's pockets. Congress should scrap the legislation and instead enact some sensible insurance reforms, such as outlawing recissions. Wait for another day to enact single-payer or Medicare +5. Preserving our existing, disfunctional system makes no sense.

Red herrings, political

Red herrings, political parties and trash analysis that frames non-sense. Come on McLatchy! The bill is a massive pile of crap; Corporations and their Congressional servants are so despised these days the only sane thing to do is completely ignore them.

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What kind of feckless fools

What kind of feckless fools choose to open barganing with the weakest possible position? Oh yeah, our lame, kissass Democrats do. Aside from being in bed with their financeer Wall Street-Corporate sponsors, either they're dumber than we knew they are, OR they never intended any worthwhile public healthcare benefits to begin with. ~John L.

Anon11/07/2009-18:45: hey,

Anon11/07/2009-18:45: hey, what is your problem? Get up & do something +. You might find lot of people to help you. Better yet, you stand up, & others will follow. Don't be remembered as such a -nay-sayer-grump!!

Ironically, the republicans

Ironically, the republicans and conservative democrats that are against the public option and so concerned with budget now, voted overwhelmingly for a risk free government backed flood insurance program. The government takes all the risk, while the insurance industry profits from writing the policies. As usual, the corporate lackeys in congress did not have a problem with government insurance or deficits when it benefited their masters. A few of the anti-public option democrats are conservative Senators Baucus, Conrad, Bayh and Lieberman (democratic caucus member), which have received enormous sums of money from the insurance industry. In addition, Bayh and Lieberman are gaining financially from their wives’ ties with the health insurance industry. Worse yet, Bayh and Lieberman have both threatened to join republicans in a filibuster of the Senate health care reform bill. On the other hand, the just say no corporatist Republican Party sold out long ago. Why have the ethics committees of the House and Senate and the Justice Department refused to investigate the illegal conduct of these so-called representatives of the people?

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Time for real tea party from the left. A movement on washington whereby we the people take away the taxpayer paid healthcare plans of both the congress and the house ........ F...... em alllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I wonder. Does the DNC hold

I wonder. Does the DNC hold seminars on how to hit the entire Donkey in the foot with the first shot..?... It seems to be a Party favorite among Democrats. I also think there are greater and stronger expressions of individuality among Democrats as opposed to the jack-booting, well lined-up like a bunch of ducks in a row Republicans. Each and every Democrat seems to readily, boldly and without hesitation, express their right and personal need to get themselves re-elected first and foremost above all else except Corporate Sponsor Interests, but, most certainly before Country, Party and the Best Interest of Humanity..., especially the 50 million or so members of humanity here in America living on the edge without any healthcare insurance whatsoever... DEMOCRATS..!!... Those Amazing Politicians capable of standing perfectly erect without spines while proclaiming their dedication to the Common People while also bending over backwards for Global Corporations as their smile never leaves their face or turns upside down and their hair remains perrrrrrrfect...... An otherwise impossible biological feat anywhere else in the known universe...

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Attention: health care advocates: New York Times (website) headline: "Sweeping Health Care Plan Passes House" >Pardon, could ya just move your leg? >>Huh? > Could ya just move your leg, I'm sweeping there. >>Yeah, okay , is this the big sweep? >No man, this is just the janitorial sweep. >>So , you mean the big cleanup is on hold? >What, man? what big cleanup? Nobody told me nothin' about a big cleanup. As far as I know, this here, is just a normal capitol cosmetology cleanup!

A pox on both their houses.

A pox on both their houses. The Republicrats in the Senate and House are, with the exception of maybe one or two, owned lock stock and barrel by the insurance industry, in this case. All this hot air and hugely complex legislation (1990 pages! Gimme a break!) is simply designed to insure that very large special interests continue to get theirs. Two simple changes are all that is needed. 1. Make health insurance like car insurance. (as in, make it universal and have a public option, and make the insurance companies mutual companies, not stock companies. Yes California has a car insurance public option if you want it. 2. Put the patient back in charge, leaving the entire treatment choices between the Dr. and the patient, including the financial. Make the insurance rates for various services easily known for all parties and the patient will decide in a flash what suits them and even what "extras" they may want. And the doctor can tell them easily because everyone knows. As it is now, no one knows anything and the insuror wont tell. But nothing meaningful will happen. There is far too much money being made with all the current obfuscation and jerking of both patient and doctor around. No hope of any reasonable progress when there is so much money to be made by dipping fat insurance company fingers into the public till. So we will have a 1990 page document designed to steal the money you don't even have, along with money they are already gouging out of you. Good luck, as that is all that is on your side now. Not Pelosi. Not Boehner the insurance whore.

Here's the solution for

Here's the solution for finding money for health care without raising taxes--stop spending our taxpayer dollars on two senseless wars we are going to lose anyway. If the government would do that, we could take care of the health of all, and keep everyone in the country (and maybe the world) housed and fed. Of course, the Republicans would never agree, they are so fixed on their bottom line that they have no human feelings at all.

Many Democrats are

Many Democrats are Republicans masquerading as Democrats, just as we have many Republicans masquerading as Christians. If Americans continue to lead the world in anything it is definitely in hypocrisy.

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