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Yikes!!! I'm a Slave to Socialized Medicine

by: Steve Weissman, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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A doctor makes a rare house call to visit patients in Florida. While such house calls are uncommon in the US, Steve Weissman explains that in France, where he and his wife live, they are common. (Photo: Gregg Matthews / The New York Times)

    Growing up in Florida in the 1940s, I saw many of the doctors my family knew fighting against Harry Truman's effort to enact what they called "Socialized Medicine." Their immediate target was Sen. Claude Pepper, a New Deal Democrat who supported universal health care. Our doctor friends dubbed him "Red Pepper" and helped defeat him in the elections of 1950. Yet, for all this early "fight for freedom," I now find myself in France enjoying single-payer, socialized medicine, which I would heartily recommend to all Americans.

    The system here is surprisingly nonbureaucratic, at least for the patient. My wife Anna and I picked our own general practitioners (GPs), specialists and hospital care, with no insurance company restricting us to their list of doctors or hospitals. In fact, we found only two restrictions. The GPs could turn us down if they already had too many patients and they had to be within our geographical area so they would not have to travel too far when making a house call. Yes, under socialized medicine here in France, doctors still make house calls, even here in the boondocks where we live.

    Nurses also make house calls to give shots or take blood for testing. Test results usually arrive in the next day's mail.

    For each visit to the GP, we write a check for 22 euros. The system then reimburses us for 70 percent with a direct deposit to our bank account. For some particularly debilitating conditions, the government system pays the full 100 percent. To pay whatever the government doesn't, most people here have private top-up insurance, which is very reasonably priced. So, the single-payer system has more than a single payer, but the insurance companies exercise none of the control they would back home.

    At the pharmacy, we don't pay at all. We simply present our health service cards: the government and top-up insurance then pay the pharmacist directly. The system excludes certain nonnecessary medicines and requires that we use generic medicine when available.

    For most visits to specialists, test facilities or hospitals, the GP acts as a gatekeeper, writing prescriptions and often a letter explaining particular problems. He or she does all this on the spot during office visits, and there's none of the paper shuffling one sees in doctors' offices everywhere in America.

    Most specialists and test-givers also write up their reports on the spot and hand them directly to the patient, though x-rays and other test results will soon be transmitted to the GP by computer. Again, we've seen very little bureaucracy and no interference by either the government or insurance companies.

    None of this is free, of course. Everyone in the workforce pays a percentage of their taxable income to cover this, their pensions, and other social charges. For Anna and me, the costs are covered by our British pensions from the time we lived and worked in England.

    How good is the French medical care? Surveys by the World Health Organization rate the French system as the best in the world, and far better than average health care in the United States. Life expectancy and most other relevant rankings are also higher in France than in the United States.

    From our own experience, we would agree that French medicine is much better and far cheaper than in the United States. When we lived in Florida, my very expensive heart specialist seemed content for me to have a bit of high blood pressure, which he saw as natural for a person of my age. Not so here in France, where the doctors kept changing my pills until they got me down to the normal 120 over 80. The French doctors also found a way to end a long-standing enlargement of my heart that never bothered my American doctors.

    To be fair, not all doctors here are as good as the ones who've treated us, and we've heard the same kind of horror stories we heard in the States about doctors who buried their mistakes. We also hear threats to cut back funding, which is already far less per head than spending on medical care in the United States. But, so far, we've gotten the best of care, as do all our neighbors, including workmen, farmers and retirees on limited budgets.

    Why, then, can't Americans have the same kind of socialized medicine? Mostly, because of the health maintenance organizations and insurance companies, who take such a big slice off the top. So strong is their influence that almost no one of any clout in American politics dares to talk of a single-payer system that would simply do away with private medical insurance, except perhaps as the kind of top-up they have here.

    Hopefully, if enough Americans get to know what exists here in France, the debate will open up. Something like the French system would certainly save Americans a great deal of money and provide much better care.

    But, for Anna and me, it's already too late. We've become so enslaved by the great medical care we now have that we cannot see ever moving back to the United States or anywhere else. That, I suppose, is the true horror of socialized medicine that all those Florida doctors warned about back in the 1940s.

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A veteran of the Berkeley Free Speech Movement and the New Left monthly Ramparts, Steve Weissman lived for many years in London, working as a magazine writer and television producer. He now lives and works in France.

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Good for you, Steve. My dad

Good for you, Steve. My dad brought up much of what you said at a meeting of seniors where a typical reactionary MD was promoting an HMO. He snapped, "If you don't like it here, why don't you go back where you came from," to which my dad, who got his chops as a union organizer answered, "I was born in Providence, Rhode Island. Where the hell are you from?" The doc, who spoke with an obvious foreign accent, neglected to reply. Our medical care is an oxymoron and a huge part of what can only be called "The Great American Screwing."

This sounds like a dream

This sounds like a dream come true. I am disappointed with the philosophy and greed so often exhibited in the US medical-insurance complex (similar to the military-industrial complex). I have met a number of very good doctors, and several of those have been forced out of their practices by impediments placed in their way by "the system." I should add that I am not a medical doctor but a marine biologist.

I live in France and share

I live in France and share Weissman's view of the French health care system. As the USA considers a new direction for a system with universal coverage, a careful examination of the French system will provide useful guidelines for how it should function.

The myth, and that is

The myth, and that is exactly what it is, is that we have the best health care in the world. The only place that is true is if you live near one of the really big and well equipped hospitals. And the only people who it is true for are those with the very best insurance policies. For the rest of us, the vast majority of us, neither of these is true. And we, the rest of us, have pretty mediocre health care at best. And we pay way too much for it too.

A wonderful explanation of

A wonderful explanation of how the "socialized" system so many are afraid of really works. Why not send this out to newspapers nationwide as an op ed piece? The American populace needs to be educated about what we are missing for it's only pressure from us citizens that will make it happen here.

I had to go to Germany to

I had to go to Germany to receive X-ray treatment for a disease that has been treated for over 20 years in Europe but is considered experimental in the USA. It cost me 400 Euros or about $600 US for the 5 treatement sessions. 4 months later I had the same XRT performed at the UCSF Medical Center (teaching hospital) where the bill came to over $8,000. There is little incentive for medical practitioners to provide new treatments unless the insurance company will reimburse and the insurance companies will cover any potential lawsuits. So the USA insurance companies are dictating the medial treatment we are able to obtain. And with the insurance companies not reimbursing doctors for preventative care at their offices, people are instead treated later at much greater expense in the hospitals. Where the American way of health care is successful is in the enormous profits generated by the drug companies and the insurance companies, some of which trickles down to their Washington lobbyists and of course the government "regulators" and "our" elected officials in the White House and Congress.

i was born in the U.S.,now

i was born in the U.S.,now live in Canada and we have the best Socialized medical care in the world. i would not move to any other country.

A good article--but it's not

A good article--but it's not like anything in the article is a secret or new. I haven't spent enough time in other nations to know if the apparent credulity or gullibility of a substantial portion of the US population is a global norm, but, thanks to ceaseless AMA, corporate & GOP propaganda people continue to believe that: (1) we have the "best" health care in the world & it's impossible to have any other kind of system without crushing taxes & overwhelming bureaucracy; (2) the Social Security trust fund will soon be out of money (2042 actually & the trust fund is in much better shape than most corporate pension funds or 401(k)s ) but no one, for some reason, ever compares the relative viability of the average corporate pension fund to that of SS, wonder why?) and everyone would've done much better had they invested the money withheld for the trust fund in the "market" or, I suppose, real estate. I would very much like to see Obama's administration & a Democrat-dominated Congress summon the guts to finally defeat the private health insurance industry & enact an efficient single payer national health insurance system. I think the "Big 3" might help & perhaps some other large corporations. The US would actually be more competitive. But I doubt it. Courage does not seem to be a part of the average elected person's make up, at least, not in the US. Unless it's courageous to ignore the interests of those who elected you in favor of those who can afford to pay for lobbyists, etc. But, then, when US voters seem so easily propagandized, maybe that's not really a big deal. Just look how many people voted for Bush in 2000 & 2004--even considering how rigged the vote was in a number of states.

Several years ago a friend

Several years ago a friend and his girlfriend spent 8 weeks in Finland and Sweden. Avid bike riders, the female fell helmetless and struck her head and badly lascerated her arm. Though a teacher with american healthcare she was told upon asking how she could reimburse them for her two exrays, patching up etc. She was told: 'Mad'am you are a guest in our country. You owe us nothing. We do not try to profit from the misfortunes of our visitors.' Well aware that in the usa her exam,xrays, bandaging and medications would have been ocer several hundred dollars, she was literally almost floored. There are systems other than ours out there. If we have to pay for them so be it. It's abominable that citizens here live lives of desperation.

This was exactly my

This was exactly my experience in France as well. We lived there for two years as expats, 2004-2006. The doctors are accessible, the offices are typically warm and non-clinical feeling, and there is very little staff other than perhaps a secretary. The pharmacist and doctor always seemed a little taken aback when we didn't present our medical card and paid in full. The price was so reasonable that they didn't realize how much of a bargain I felt it was. An x-ray for 60 euros, a doctor's visit for 25 euros, an MRI for a couple hundred euros. To compare, my daughter needed an MRI back in the US and its official price was $800 if you paid in full up front, or $1600 in installments (luckily we had good insurance). Not to mention an office visit, seeing the nurse practitioner only, recently was billed as $91. How anybody can say we have the greatest system is beyond me. We are living in an irrational country.

Who owns the hospitals? Are

Who owns the hospitals? Are the MD's state employees?

I, too, lived under

I, too, lived under socialized medicine in three different European countries. Belgium and Austria were outstanding, Greece not so much. I think one of the basic "bottom-line medicine" problems here in the States is that to go to med school, you have to mortgage most of your life to pay your education back. In Europe, higher education is free to those who can make the grade. The other problem, of course, is all the insurance company minions who make their living by refusing coverage. We have "socialized medicine" already in the form of Medicare. People are pretty happy with it. I think I read somewhere that 80% of a person's lifetime medical bills are in the last 10 years of their life. We should be able to expand Medicare to cover younger, healthier people for relatively little incremental cost. Medicare admin costs run typically about 4% of the total outlay, compared to 20% or more for our sleek, efficient private-enterprise health insurance companies. According to a Univ. of Maine study (http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S. HCweb.pdf) based on 1998 data, the total Health Spending per Capita of the USA was a little more than twice that of France, and with statistically worse outcomes.

I have lived in France for

I have lived in France for two years. The French healthcare system is phenomenal! and affordable! How can we educate the American people? NOW is the time! Keep up the good work. Feel free to contact me for a testimonial. Too much to write here.

Weneed to get ALL

Weneed to get ALL CONSERVATIVES out of healthcare and Public Schools. They are ruining America for profit.

I have a sinus infection -

I have a sinus infection - which I have had for going on 6 weeks. I have excellent insurance - real insurance, not an HMO. I have tried to get an appointment with an ENT for 3 weeks. I finally got an appointment. I arrived 15 minutes before the appointed time, paid my co-pay, filled out a dozen or so forms and waited and waited and waited. Finally, after approximately 1 and 1/2 hour, I went up to the desk and asked how much longer. She guestimated another 2 hours. To my stunned expression she explained, the normal wait time here is 3 to 5 hours after your appointment. I asked her to refund my co-pay and I left. I conferred with friends who told me that the average wait time at ANY Doctor's office these days is at least 3 hours after your appointed time and if you get more than 30 seconds with the Doctor, it's a miracle. What a joke our medical system is. What can we patients do about it - there is no governing body and no one to complain to. As I left, I put a 'curse' on them, I said "I hope you get your med-mal insurance preiums tripled!" It was the worst thing that I could think of to say to them!

I have Rheumatoid

I have Rheumatoid Arthritis.....a chronic illness. When I came down with RA twelve years ago, I had an HMO. I called the HMO told them something was major was wrong, that my joints were hurting, and that I needed to see a doctor. The response on the other side of the phone line was laughter, that oh, so what if you hurt! After explaining the symptoms again, I finally got to see a doctor. Eventually I couldn't work because of this condition, and ended up having to close my business, losing my house in the process. I moved to a dryer climate, which helped quite a bit, but meant giving up my health insurance. After several years, with encouragement from my PA, my physician at the time, both who worked at a low-cost community health clinic, I applied for Medicare Disability. After jumping through flaming hoops, and being rejected once, I finally was approved. The catch was I had to wait two years before I Medicare would pay for any doctor. My feeling, along with friend's and doctors was that they were hoping for me to die. Four years later, a letter from Medicare came; in four weeks, my benefit was being rescinded because I was, in their opinion "healed", for a condition that will never heal, a condition that I will eventually die from! I challenged Medicare and fortunately won. Once on Medicare Disability, they try to get you off! Yes, I dream of "Socialized" medicine here in the U.S. Yes, I have longed to live in Europe, to live in France, or other countries, where perhaps I wouldn't have to "beg" doctors, PCPs to take me as a patient, not to turn me down, simply because I'm on Medicare, to take my disease as something serious, not like a broken bone that Medicare seems to think that it is.

New Zealand also has a

New Zealand also has a similar system to France. Works well for the most part. Areas where it is fraying at the edges are where the advocates of the American style system have been nibbling away at it.

Last week, I had to go to

Last week, I had to go to the hospital here in Dallas for an infection resulting from a broken tooth. Lacking insurance, the only choice was the ER, where there are no dentists on call, or, as I learned, anywhere in the hospital. Over the course of 4 hours, I spent 10 minutes with a doctor, who looked in my mouth and prescribed antibiotics. I was charged $128, plus $86 for antibiotics, in spite of the fact that I'm poor and qualify for "charity care." This week, I received two additional bills totaling $550, both of which are written in some sort of doctor-speak that I cannot make heads or tails of. And, the best part is, the infection remains; the tooth must be pulled, and my only choice is a free clinic, (free meaning $80 per visit,) which cannot even see me until mid-January. Great f**king system...

I've lived in the UK for

I've lived in the UK for forty years, I'm pushing eighty and I wouldn't dream of going back to the US, even for a protracted visit. In spite of diabetes, high blood pressure, high colesterol and a mini stroke, I'm being maintained in really good, comfortable, functional health, and at a cost to me of nothing whatsoever. Having awakened at last from the Bush nightmare, perhaps the American voters will even take their own bodies out of the hands of the money-grubbers.

I like the point(s) Michael

I like the point(s) Michael Moore had to say about this pressing issue in his movie " Sicko " We should have the right as American citizens to free health care for all . The problem lies in the fact that too much money is being made by those who have too much power to keep the system going as is . There are more lobyists for health insurance companies and drug companies than you can shake that proverbial stick at . It's time for some real change , and that means looking out for us working class folks , the " people " in "we the people " It is digusting that this great nation is in such wretched shape . Power to the people ...right NOW

Unfortunately Americans are

Unfortunately Americans are driven by myth, religion, and fairy stories. How an entire population could get soooo dumb is the stuff of legend. Americans think they don't need any health insurance until a crisis happens, then they rail and complain about lack of universal coverage. Unfortunately, EVERYTHING has to be by personal experience which puts those needing medical services at any given time in a minority. Sooo Americans pay lots for poor or no health care. And are dumb enough to like it that way. THAT is pathological stupidity.

In France, the doctors work

In France, the doctors work for themselves, they are not employed by the state. I too live in France and concur, the system in France is really not bad at all. In some ways it's more old fashioned where when you call the doctor on the phone to make an appointment, it's the doctor them self that answers the phone. And yes, they do house calls and the doctor will actually bring you medicine. And when you're with the doctor, you are never rushed. This is typical french politeness. I have never visited a doctor in France that was seeing several patients at the same time. When you are with the doctor, they stay with you until your stay is appointment is finished. Some people talk about waiting lists, I have not seen any such waiting lists. The only thing I've seen are certain doctors, unless it's urgent, you might have to schedule an appointment in advance which is nothing different than in the US.

Odd, isn't it, that the

Odd, isn't it, that the loudest voices against socialized medicine, HAVE socialized medicine. Republicans in Congress decry it, but it is part of their benefits. Many of my retired-military coworkers hate the idea of socialized medicine, but they would never give up their TriCare. Maybe they just don't want the REST of us to have it.

I ama a Canadian. My 32 year

I ama a Canadian. My 32 year old sonwas diagnosed withmultiple myeloma, a very nasty type of blood cancer, two years ago. He has had two bone-marrow transplants, countless transfusions and more drugs than I can possibly remember. The total cost to me and my family has been zero. When he was diagnosed, I joined an e-mail list on this subject. Most participants are US citizens. I am daily appalled by the messages on the list by desperately ill Americans and their families, detailing ongoing fights with insurance companies, having to make choices between treatments based on cost and coverage. These are non-issues in the Canadian system. If I lived in the US, I imagine that I would be bankrupt by now. It's a no-brainer. I sincerely hope that Obama's election will eventually lead to the US catching up to the rest of the developed world in the humane treatment of its citizens.

All you people with

All you people with experience in other countries medical systems. Please write articles detailing the system you live in. How is it paid for? Taxes on employer, employee? How do they handle self employed? Is extra insurance necessary? How are drugs handled? How happy are people with their care? Are the fees paying for the system or is there a deficit? We are going to have some health care reform in the USA and the more info people have about alternatives the more likely we will get something better. The French system is the best rated but I am unclear how it is paid for. Medicare is not "socialized" medicine. The government pays the bills but doesn't employ the doctors or own the hospitals. The VA is "socialized medicine."

I moved to Canada 14 years

I moved to Canada 14 years ago from the USA. Our health care is paid from our income taxes. The total cost is far less than US health insurance. I chose my family physician. She and the specialists she refers me to are great doctors, very caring, the most up to date standards, all the tests, all the technology, and they all keep their appointments on time. They emphasize prevention and catching things in their early stages. When I go to a doctor, I go in, I get treated, I walk out. There is no charge, no bill, no paperwork, no arguing with an insurance company. I never even know how much it costs. The doctors and medical professionals here get paid well. Drugs and dentistry are not covered by the government. However, my employer-provided health plan covers most of those things 100 percent. As you know, drugs are much cheaper in Canada than in the USA. I can't understand why Americans put up with the ridiculous situation they face. Knowing what I know now, I would be marching in the street if I lived in America to demand what the Canadians have.

Bman, I am living right now

Bman, I am living right now in Canada and I can tell you that the Canadian system does have its shortcomings, especially when compared to say, France or Wales. We have shortage of doctors due to the actions of our half-brained politicians and their idiotic decision to cut the funding to medical school. Our students still have to pay massive tuition, and we still have to pay for prescription drugs (although we pay less than Americans do). For some services, there are still out of pocket expenses and doctors don't come to your door in Canada. Likewise, there are idiotic right wing people who insist to us that we would be better off with the American healthcare system when it is in fact, too much Americanization in our healthcare system that causes our problems. How is it paid for? We pay for it as taxpayers. I suppose that it is like an insurance in a way, but different. No HMOs there trying to rob you. You pay according to your income (progressive taxes, although I must say that like in America, I am disgusted by our politicians and the widening income gap; a problem also prevalent in Europe) and if you are sick, the system (ex: the nurses and doctors) will do the best that they can to try to make you better. The system could be improved (I would say getting more doctors out is a priority - I know people with GPAs of 3.8+ trying to get into med school with difficulties), and the lack of coverage over dental care (which I feel should be a part of our national healthcare plan) but at the end of the day, I am very happy not to be in the American profit-based system that does not deserve the name healthcare.

I have lived in Italy for 35

I have lived in Italy for 35 years and am a US citizen. As a resident I am entitled to the full coverage of the Italian Health system/ . It is a more or less a duplication of the French experience described above, human, humane and efficient. A major hospital one that is also a training center for Physicians provides universally good treatment and in some areas cutting edge (no pun) care. Certainly some doctors are better than others, some physicians make you wait a half an hour, BUT WHEN YOU ARE RECEIVED THE PHYSICIAN KNOWS WHO YOU ARE! My mother was here visiting and broke her hip, she was taken by ambulance to the orthapoedic hospital, given a hip replacement was in the hospital for a week and remained in a wonderful physical rehab center (in a converted palatial villa) for an additional 4 weeks.....ALL WITHOUT FEES AS SHE WAS COVERED BY MY NOMINAL NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE PAID OUT OF MY INCOME My tale is not unique, a society that believes the government is to serve the people, ALL the people will see that medical care , and EDUCATION are basic rights. That good care is not the right only of the winners in the money war.

Aha! Now I see why so many

Aha! Now I see why so many government figures try to diss France...(Freedom Fries etc.). It's simply propaganda to soften up the uninformed so that they will reject the truth about France, which is that they are years ahead of us in decent healthcare, and that France should be emulated. That goes for France's food and lifestyle too... If decent medical care for all is (*gasp!*) Socialized Medicine, what is public schooling, the postal service, infrastructure etc., and, last but not least, the Wall Street Bailout? Um. Socialism! Run for your lives!

please send this to Obama &

please send this to Obama & the Congress!

I am a primary care

I am a primary care physician in New Mexico and I focus on my patients but I have a hell of a time to get paid. I am in private practice so that I can dictate for myself the amount of time I spend with a patient but this cuts into my income. The insurance companies set the rates at which I will be paid and often deny payment for unclear reasons. The insurance companies practice medicine without a license and I have to practice insurance without being an insurance agent. I'm sick of the paperwork and the fraud of the insurance companies. Our medical system is not for the patient but for the CEOs and their stockholders. Life is short and I'm not going to waste my life doing paperwork to make an insurance CEO wealthy to build shiny buildings with a $10,000 sculpture in the front. When you see the impressive insurance building know that I and many others physicians helped get those bastards wealthy and American public unhealthy.

I saw this in Michael

I saw this in Michael Moore's movie "Sicko. But chimpy et al went out of their way to make trouble for Michael after they saw how popular this movie was. If you haven't seen it I advise you to buy the DVD, although some portions were removed from it. You will be even more impressed by not only the health care in France, but also Canada and Cuba as well.

The first step towards a

The first step towards a European style health care system needs to be tort reform. In Europe malpractice lawsuits are almost non existent and if there is one then awards are very low. Without tort reform universal care would be a big black hole where money just disappears. It would be impossible to finance. A reduction in bureaucracy and tort costs alone will pay for a universal health care system. Once a general practitioner gets a fixed yearly reimbursement for each patient under his care and doesn't has to worry about malpractice insurance anymore, his office costs will drop by over 50%.

I am a Canadian but I

I am a Canadian but I occasionally go to the US on business. I was stunned when an engineer I was working with in California told me he was afraid to retire early as he had a mild heart attack a few years ago and could not afford health insurance if he left his company plan he was currently with. For a country that is so focused on personal freedom I ask what kind of freedom is this? Although not without flaws I love our Canadian health care system and wouldn't give it up. I want to see it improved but I like universal health care.

I am an expatriate living

I am an expatriate living in Portugal which has a similar system as France and I would not dream of going back to the United States. Here nurses are where they belong, in the hospitals or clinics, one receptionist takes care of 4 physician appointments, yet the care is outstanding. You can chose your doctors, pay a modest fee for a specialist however anything done at the hospital is free. WHY AMERICANS PUT-UP with this abysmal health-care system is an enigma to me. A one-payer system financed by the government and the VAT taxes which also pay for education (better than in the States by far and that in the poorest country of the EU) cuts out all the paperwork and middle-men, the time physicians spend getting approval from health-insurers can be given to patients plus they do not have the "GOD IN WHITE COATS" attitude either. My husband was treated by one of the top Urologists and he came out to call my husband into the office by himself - yet he still drives the latest Porsche and is not financially hurting, none of them are. So what is wrong with the US system, the people who take it without questioning it and the politicians? All American citizens ought to get the same health-care as the politicians or maybe the politicians should receive the same as the average American???????????? That ought to wake them up for sure...................

As an American expat living

As an American expat living in Portugal for the past two years I can only say I was stunned by the excellent care provided. Here is an actual event that happened to me about 8 months ago. I had an irritant of some sort in my eye and all the tricks like pulling the eyelid over and rolling the eye around didn't do anything. My wife and I went to the hospital to have it looked at. We arrived at the hospital at 9:30 a.m. and left at 11:30. What happened during that period is this. I was checked in after presenting my health care card which is free, and told to take a seat. 20 minutes later I was called and had to follow an employee to another part of the hospital which is for eye problems. I sat there for about 20 minutes and was called to speak to a person who asked what the problem was. I explained and was directed to a doctor who brought me into his office and examined my eye with the latest equipment. He said I had a cyst in the eye and that he was going to lance it. He did that after numbing the eye with a liquid so it was painless and took about a minute or less. Then he prescribed two meds for me to get, one a liquid and one a cream for night. I was then sent across the hall where another woman applied a patch to my eye and I was released. All that in 2 hours. The eye healed Beautifully and THE COST WAS ZERO. If Portugal can provide health care such as this and is the poorest country in Western Europe, why cannot the U.S. medical system do the same? GREED! I cannot image ever living in the U.S. again.

Here in Japan we have a

Here in Japan we have a great "socialized" system, and my wife and son both use it because the cost of American insurance on base is so high that we would have to take our son 3 times just to pay off the deductible! As for wait time, I've found it to be just about the same. My only complaint with Japan's system is that they seem to be afraid of using stronger medicine and, myself being a lot larger than the average Japanese, often have to go to the base pharmacy to get something strong enough that works. Then again, the Japanese pharmaceuticals aren't making it easy for practitioners to get the best medicines available because testing and licensing is sky high here for any imported medicines.

A visitor in Germany in

A visitor in Germany in September 2008, I came down with a very bad sore throat. Strep infections are particularly dangerous for me because of childhood rheumatic fever. Things came to a head on Saturday. In my broken Germany I called a weekend clinic and was told that they didn't to strep tests, but directed me to a laboratory. The lab charged me 15Euro for the test (about $22) and told me they'd have the results by Monday. Sunday morning the lab called and confirmed that I had strep A and needed to see a doctor. I went to the weekend clinic, saw a doctor, was given a prescription for antibiotics and told how to get to the pharmacy. I paid the clinic paid $25 Euro (about $38) to the clinic and 12 Euro (about $18) to the pharmacy. I was home and back in bed a little over two hours after I left my apartment. I figure I paid far less in Germany without insurance (around $75) than would have been the case in the US without insurance. The only thing more costly was aspirin..... Universal health coverage in the US is LONG overdue. Make those insurance company executives and gatekeepers go out and get a real job for a change. And a healthy, population which isn't scrambling to avoid bankruptcy from health problems is good for all of us.

I'm a retired Television

I'm a retired Television news editor, and I wonder if many of you readers realize that single-payer medicine was instigated in Canada by the Grandfather of Kiefer Sutherland, the famous movie and tv actor. It was the much loved Premier of the Province of Saskatchewan, in Canada, Tommy Douglas, who started it all way back in the 50's. His daughter Shirley married the actor Donald Sutherland, and Kiefer is their son. Tommy almost had steam coming out of his ears with anger at the fact that a rancher had to sell his farm and go completely broke to have his son's surgery done. He swore to all from our TV station that this would never happen again. I know, because I was there. It makes sense: health care is a HUMAN RIGHT, not a privilege for the few. Bravo to him. Also, I too simply walk into any clinic I care to, just show my health card, get treated, and walk out. Same goes for hospitalization. No charge. We ALL pay through our taxes. I guess you could call it "humane socialism." If you don't like this idea, beware that you might be a selfish individual and that you hate the idea of a humane social contract between your fellow man/women/or child.

Yeeeaaah, well, obviously

Yeeeaaah, well, obviously these comments have been edited. EVERYONE knows that free-market capitalism is far more efficient than any socialist program could possibly be. Who ya gonna believe, me or your own lying eyes?

To the contrary, nothing in

To the contrary, nothing in my earlier statement was edited. Anyone with brains isn't going to be you, 12Quarts, because we have all lived in nations with superior healthcare. In any event, your "efficient free market" has just caused a serious recession, which could very well end up being a deflationary depression.

I lived with "socialized

I lived with "socialized medicine" for two years while living and working in Great Britain as an American-expat on the UK equivalent of our "green card." Shortly after I arrived, my entire family came down sick. I called the local doctor's office and they said to come to the clinic. I said we are all too sick. She said, "Very well, the doctor will come to your house." Dr. Relson showed up in one hour and said, "Brr, it's cold in here. No wonder you are all sick." I said, "It's England - it's supposed to be cold and drafty." He said, "You have central heat - your furnace must be not working correctly." He opened the door under the stairs and proceeded to adjust our furnace. "There that should be better. Now let me see the family." The doctor examined my son and said he had the mumps. He examined my daughter and wife and said they both had strep throat. He pulled out a hypodermic syringe and penicillin. I said, "Wait. Don't you have to take a swab and send it to a lab?" Dr. Relson looked offended. "I have been practicing medicine for thirty years. Don't you think I know strep when I see it? Beside in three days when the results come back, you will either be over it or dead." Then he examined me. "You might have pneumonia. Here, take this and go to the hospital." I went to the hospital and got a chest x-ray. They gave me some medication at their pharmacy. My fellow Americans, as you can plainly see, "socialized medicine" is horrible. Doctor's make house calls. Doctor's fix your furnace. Doctor's make diagnoses without expensive and unnecessary tests. Hospitals give free x-rays and medicine. And UK subjects live ten years longer and are healthier than Americans. Pretty horrible, isn't it?

Thirteen years ago I was

Thirteen years ago I was part of a group of high school kids from Silicon Valley who went to Ireland for spring break and to play several rugby games against high school teams there. Several players got hurt. One kid broke his leg in a game played in Northern Ireland, spent several nights in Queen's Hospital in Belfast: the cost was L0.00=$0.00 US. In Dublin, two other students got hurt in a match, and spent the night in University College Dublin Hospital: the cost was L15.00 per patient=$25.00 US. So the health care in the Irish Republic costs a wee bit more than it does in Great Britain, at least then! Even in 1995 the cost of those injuries in America would have been far greater than in Ireland, as insurance costs were not so great then, and worse now, and the enriching of corporate insurance execs has been the outcome!

I lived in France for a few

I lived in France for a few years. I began with a very negative presumption about their "socialized" medical system: it had to be poor, and we in the US had the best system in the world. I had an excellent doctor, a free physical every year, and could even receive doctor prescribed shots at my place of work. I once had a broken bone and no choice, of course, but to have it set in France. They set the bone and inserted a pin to stabilize it while healing. I was very skeptical and delayed the pin removal until I could return the the US, good old number 1. I had the pin removed at a major US medical clinic. I was there all day instead of a couple of hours and the doctors who performed the work were profusely complimentary about how well the pin installation was done, even to maintaining the perfect joint rotation (my wife had a similar pin installation at an "excellent" US facility and the rotation was well off). My deductible for the day's work in the US, with what was considered very good medical insurance at the time, was higher than the entire cost of the procedure in France. I finally opened my eyes. We none too bright Americans are being screwed and fed lies as reasons.

I am originally from Germany

I am originally from Germany where we have "socialized medicine". From what I can see in these comments we all agree that we Americans would be far better of having a system similar to the one in France, the UK or Germany. At the same time it seems that a lot of Americans have been told for decades to be ever afraid of "socialized medicine" and so far it has been working. My question: what do we need to do to turn this around??

Gosh, Steve, aren't you

Gosh, Steve, aren't you setting us up for failure? I can see the slogan now. "Keep Steve Weissman in France, fight single payer!" First we kick around Bill Ayers. Then Steve Weissman. Where will this end? Oh well. Personally I'm glad you're in France - keep up the good work!

Knowin' all that questions

Knowin' all that questions american's intelligence: why people who claim they know about" business" are willing to pay more than any others for a healcare system that's less efficient than in Cuba ? I still wonder ...

It will only end when we

It will only end when we start calling a lie a lie, when we forget about political correctness and exposing ignorance for the stupidity that it really is. When we throw the misinformation back to the manipulators with facts, that expose the lies as what they really are. When we start to overcome ideology with education, based on scientific fact. When we start banning creation fairy tails out of public schools and put them back into churches, where they belong. When we open our mind to other possibilities than the propaganda that dumbed us down from birth. My response to 12quarts was edited out because it probably wasn't moderate or political correct enough but sometimes the Truth needs to be told!!!

I've been living in France

I've been living in France for over 30 years and have enjoyed on the whole excellent medical care. Unfortunately, today the picture is not as bright as Steve paints it because a right-wing government led by Bush clone Sarkozy is determined to tear the whole thing down and replace it with an American like nightmare to the benefit of insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Already once excellent hospitals are seeing their budgets cut drastically, fewer and fewer medications are being reimbursed and the quality of care is deteriorating quickly. Unless Nicolas Sarkozy is stopped the French will in a few years be in the same sad state Americans are in today.

Please, God, grant us some

Please, God, grant us some kind of health care in America for those who can't get insurance... Some of us literally won't live without it.

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