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Housing Is Bad Enough, but Wait - It'll Get Worse

by: Kevin G. Hall  |  McClatchy Newspapers

Housing Crisis in US.
(artwork: Ingram Pinn)


    Washington - If you think the housing slump can't get much worse, Martin Feldstein thinks that both home prices and the broader economy can - and very likely will - get a whole le lot worse.

    The Harvard University professor and former chief economic adviser to Ronald Reagan isn't part of the crowd that continually forecasts doom. For two decades, he's headed the National Bureau of Economic Research, which officially determines when U.S. recessions begin and end.

    So when he spoke on Monday night at the annual dinner of the National Economists Club, a gathering of like-minded wonks, Feldstein's grim calculations were noteworthy.

    "There are now 12 million homes in the United States with a loan-to-value ratio greater than 100 percent. That's one mortgage in four. The aggregate amount of that is some $2 trillion," said Feldstein. "If you look at the median (midpoint) loan-to-value ratio in that 12 million group of underwater mortgages - mortgages with negative equity - the median loan-to-value ratio is 120 percent."

    That means about 25 percent of all U.S. mortgages are exceed the value of the homes the mortgages are financing. In the case of half the homes that are underwater, homeowners are paying a mortgage that's now 20 percent higher than the value of the home.

    That's bad - but it's likely to get worse.

    A recent report by First American Core Logic, a real-estate data firm in Santa Ana, Calif., estimated that as of Sept. 30, 7.5 million mortgages, or 18 percent of all properties with a mortgage, had negative equity. The group thinks there are another 2.1 million mortgages that are within 5 percent of going underwater.

    Together, these two categories account for 23 percent of all properties with a mortgage. Nevada led all states with 48 percent of homes with negative equity. Florida and Arizona each had 29 percent of homes with underwater mortgages, while 27 percent of mortgages in California were upside-down, the group said.

    If home prices fall another 10 to 15 percent, as measured by the Case/Shiller Home Price Index, then four out of every 10 mortgages in the U.S. could be underwater, Feldstein said.

    "At those levels, it's hard to see how many people are going to be willing to keep up with their mortgages," Feldstein said.

    The implications for many homeowners are staggering. Before the recent housing boom of 2000 to 2006, homes increased in value at a historical annual rate of about 2.3 percent when adjusted for inflation.

    That means that for homeowners who owe 35 percent more than their homes' value, it would take, at historical averages, about 15 years just to break even on their home investment. They won't build equity. It would be a huge incentive for millions to hand the keys back to the lender and seek cheaper housing.

    Not all real estate experts buy Feldstein's stark numbers.

    "That's the highest percentage I've heard from anybody, by quite a bit," said Rick Sharga, senior vice president for Realtytrac, an Irvine, Calif., company that publishes foreclosure data.

    More conservative forecasts, though still dismal, point to a smaller drop in home prices of 5 percent to 7 percent, he said.

    Added Jay Brinkmann, chief economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association in the nation's capital, "If you generalize the numbers too far, I think it leads to some incorrect conclusions."

    The Case/Shiller Index is driven by home sales that have taken place. It doesn't reflect the stability in older, established neighborhoods, Brinkmann said. The vacant and for-sale rates nationwide for homes built before 2000 - that is, pre-boom - is js just 2 percent. The delinquency and foreclosure problems are concentrated mostly in a handful of states, such as California, Florida, Arizona and Nevada, which had overbuilding and weak lending standards.

    "Those states have about 25 percent of the mortgages and 50 percent of the foreclosure starts" in the latest association survey, Brinkmann said. Nationwide, 6.4 percent of all mortgages were delinquent through June, but the number of delinquencies and foreclosure starts are breaking records every quarter, the most recent MBA survey said.

    Brinkmann's own rough guess is that somewhere between 6 million and 8 million mortgages are underwater, still a very high number. He doesn't see the national outlook getting better any time soon, framing his estimate of when that happens in the form of a question: "When does the influence of these massive declines in California and Florida go away?"

    Realtytrac's forecast isn't any brighter.

    "The best-case scenario in terms of the real estate market is we probably bottom out between mid-year and the end of 2009. And that's the best case from where we're sitting," Sharga said. "The only reason it could happen that soon is because of how rapidly and how severe the downturn has been in the housing market."

    A lot would have to go right to reach that best-case scenario. Government and industry efforts would have to step up efforts to forgive or make up the difference between the value of the mortgage and the value of the home.

    The final batch of subprime mortgages scheduled to reset to a higher interest rate will have done so by the end of the first quarter of 2009.

    In a rare bit of relief for one segment of the housing market, the interest rates that determine the monthly payments for some adjustable-rate mortgages are falling.

    Sharga said, however, that the next problem is the $60 billion of adjustable-rate Alt-A mortgages, which fall between subprime and prime loans. Millions of these loans are scheduled to reset next year to higher interest rates. That could bring monthly mortgage payment increases of $1,000 or more if the loans aren't modified or refinanced.

    All this is happening amid what now clearly is a deepening recession, with the highest job losses and deepest drops in consumer spending in decades. The Labor Department reported on Thursday that weekly jobless claims jumped to 542,000, a 16-year high, last week. That suggests a fast-deepening recession.

    The White House Thursday acknowledged for the first time that it now supports efforts in Congress to extend unemployment benefits for longer periods to the millions of Americans who can't find work in the downturn.

    Consumer spending drives about two-thirds of U.S. economic activity, and as unemployment mounts and consumers retrench, that leads to even more unemployment, mortgage delinquencies and foreclosures.

    "The problem now is what will be happening with jobs," Brinkmann said.

  

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Impoverishment of the

Impoverishment of the nation, of the populace, and enrichment of powerful financial interests has been the trajectory for nearly 30 years. It looks as though little can be done to save us from our own stupidity.

I'm sure glad my house is

I'm sure glad my house is paid for in full. I would be sh***ing bricks otherwise.

Why not have a one-year

Why not have a one-year moratorium on adjustments of ARM's? Everyone just freeze right where they are 1/1/09 to 1/1/10, no adjustments upward allowed for one year, then cap any future ones at 1 point/year max. This should buy some time to figure out a better, long-term solution for everyone, and stop the tremendous downward slide that is upending this economy. People would have time to either a) re-finance, or b) get another/better job (maybe! - I know, there's fewer of those too), or c) sell, or d) get a renter or three to help out. In any case, it would buy some time to stop the worst damage from the housing fall out, without "bailing" anybody out directly, which is so unfair to those who have been paying their mortgages okay all along. Just one more piece of the pie. Which we keep making higher, a la W.

What they say is getting

What they say is getting worse (falling prices) is in fact a Godsend rescue to the millions of working homeless. Those who bet on and consumed their foolishly leveraged high prices without considering the sufferings of the hard working non-debtors who actually EARNED their meager belongings now deserve to lose big. What remains to be seen is RENTS will fall back to where a plain working stiff can at least afford a roof over their head. If they do, THEN we will be experiencing a real recovery. I do not wish hunger and deprivation on all you bloated debtors who thought you had achieved wealth (even though you did not earn it). But to see your piles of imagined loot vanish, and your phony 'savings' evaporate does not bother me in the least.

It is quite simple, the

It is quite simple, the people that got filthy rich off of paving over the land while poisoning air,water,etc. now will get that much richer by putting people to work reversing & wherever they can keep getting away with it hiding the damage... nobody will learn a damn thing & 2 maybe 3 generations down the line it will start all over again...

The more doom in the

The more doom in the forecast is better for bottom fishers. The flounder will be cheap and plentiful. The cod full of worms. The haddock are the last remaining blue chips. The swordfish are extinct. A whale is killed by the Japanese. The sea gulls will flap around to pick up the entrails. A trough is the only time to buy.

Oh the greed! "Millions of

Oh the greed! "Millions of these loans are scheduled to reset next year to higher interest rates". So we the taxpayer give banks $350 billion, the Fed reduces borrowing rates and the banks want to charge more. It's a scam.

Turn all the ARMs into

Turn all the ARMs into conventional 30 or even 15 year loans at 5%. At least the lenders would get something back in many cases.

Christine - I am sorry to

Christine - I am sorry to say I agree completely. What I am watching for is more evidense that we are being subjected to is what Naomi Klein in her excellent book "The Shock Doctrine" calls what is happening to all of us right now, is application of the Shock Doctrine. We are being sold a program that make the wealthy more wealthy and the majority powerless. I for one refuse to be powerless after 59 years of working in steadily worsening conditions. We all need to get sustainable in what ever ways we can.

I wonder if 401-Ks are

I wonder if 401-Ks are anywhere near bottoming out yet. It's tough to watch 40% of your "savings" for "retirement" just disappear because you were talked into believing the idea that the bottom could never drop out again. I'm just sure glad we saved ourselves from ever experiencing another depression like the last one by enacting legislation to UNDO all of the protections that were built into the system BECAUSE of the last depression. Oh well, people who don't pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it and nobody paid attention the opinions of the living elderly people who were actually around for the last depression. Maybe future generations will appreciate the wisdom of their elders, but then again... that would be us. Never mind.

Home values will continue to

Home values will continue to fall until they are consistent with the ability of the buyer to put down 20% in cash and substantiate a yearly income equal to a third or a quarter of the amount of the mortgage. This does not bode well for the housing market. Cheap money and the disingenuous assertion that creative financing was intended to make homeownership available to more have been a justification for not paying workers adequate wages. The powers that be have no choice but to see the income of prospective home buyers rise accordingly. If there is to be a housing market at all, jobs must return to this country. Workers need to earn enough to afford home ownership. Peace!

The US must get its

The US must get its financial house in order, and stop employing bankers to run this thing for profit. It's our money, not theirs! Issue US Treasury notes. End the Fed syndicate and national usury.

Clearly, the current system

Clearly, the current system is broken, and now we have the opportunity to build something better. Homeowners shouldn't be abandoned: a new FHA program ought to be tailored to revaluing homes. Yes, banks will get less, but they'll get more than a default would bring them. That kind of direct intervention into the economy is something the government is going to have to do a lot more of. Some may call that Socialism, but it's just using the same levers Bush and Paulson have turned to but for more positive purpose. When people accuse Obama, or Democrats of Socialism, we can respond: Bush was a Socialist--for rich people. Is it bad to try to help everyone else? When things are this grim, clearly we have to find new solutions, not just wring our hands.

If more people "walk away" &

If more people "walk away" & find an equivalent place to rent, then, unless they had substantial equity built up (or were like Addie Polk, elderly, had house paid off & then . . .), they may be financially better off. It will be whoever holds the mortgages who will suffer--& that's why there's the huge concern about people "losing their homes" not because people will lose their homes (otherwise, there would've been a huge huge outcry when the number of homeless people increased tremendously during the Reagan administration & they weren't all people who'd been released from institutions by a long shot), it's because banks, et al, stand to lose millions. That's what the TARP is all about & everything else--is stopping those who hold MBS (mortgage-backed securities) from having to take those losses. So any mortgage assistance is to lessen those losses.

Jack thanks for reminding us

Jack thanks for reminding us how hard the "Shock Doctrine" is hitting us and how hard it's going to hit in the last violent days of Bushco et al. Just today the government earmarked more than 400 billion (without interest) to Citigroup. Bushco's assault on America should never be forgotten. The only good thing to come out of this is we know what's wrong with capitalism. It never was capitalism, for the last 30 years it's been socialism for the rich, serfdom for the worker. Die Capitalism, Die!

"A lot would have to go

"A lot would have to go right to reach that best-case scenario. Government and industry efforts would have to step up efforts to forgive or make up the difference between the value of the mortgage and the value of the home." Why will the economy only get better faster if the government intervenes? This is pure economic ignorance. Let the market correct itself. The less government intrusion the better. This recession would have been over with already if not for what they've already done. History is repeating (read: Great Depression).

It is refreshing to see some

It is refreshing to see some comments admitting our OWN stupidity in the mess the mess, mostly the fingers are pointed at the EVIL money-changers. Well if people KNEW how the system works they would not have fallen for the false promises and realized that a consumer society is unsustainable. Get a grip Americans, you can't go shopping, in your late twenties after impoverishing your parents paying for the expensive college education and start where your folks left off - only BIGGER AND BETTER. The world does not work that way and credit card bills DO come due. On the other hand, where was the oversight and Greenspan's head while he was in charge? Fiscal responsibility ought to be a mandatory subject in every high-school curriculuml. One thing is for sure, already you are witnessing an increase in violence, crime, alcoholism, drug-abuse etc, folks shoot their entire families because they would rather be dead than admit to having been greedy and wrong. This is a reality check the country needed yet the Pentagon keeps pumping out more weapons being given virtually "carte blanche." Maybe the RAPTURE folks are delighted but I think THEY will be for one big surprise..............the world has gotten very small, they can run with their money but they surely can't hide though in the end they might try waiting for that moment that will have THEM (why THEM anyhow?) sitting at the right hand of God while watching the poor slobs THEY impoverished suffer. WARPED THINKING? Maybe we ought to all show-up in Washington DC not by Lear Jet but bus, train or bicycle to ask for a hand-out?????????????

I am so glad Americans are

I am so glad Americans are waking up to reality as the rest of the world sees it for a long time. There is hope for the world and America will join again the trying side of the world community. It looked so promising then in 2000 that we all would all be one World.

I feel very badly for people

I feel very badly for people who scraped together enough to buy modest homes and are now hurting. But for the MANY people who jumped in way over their heads based on paper assets and financed outrageously huge homes big enough to raise an entire village in, well the fat lady is a singin' just for you. There is much to be said for small affordable homes. There is even more to be said for homes with enough property to allow said home to help pay its own mortgage. We have always built our own places and paid out of pocket as we go so have absolutely no mortgage liablilities but even so we have a garage where my husband can earn money on the side fixing / fabricating things and a sunspace/greenhouse where i earn money raising bedding plants and cutflowers to sell at our farmers market. I realize this is not practicable on an individual level for many homeowners. BUT on a community level it is both practicable and will be very necessary. I am so looking forward to the day when parking lots are not full of cars but instead are covered with hoop houses where urban dwellers raise veggies ! We are only as helpless as we think we are . . . and who exactly wants us to think we are helpless, anyway ?

Falling house prices are not

Falling house prices are not a boon to the working homeless because you still need a chunk of cash plus good credit to buy a house now. The majority of Americans are just scraping by. I would love to get in on real estate by buying foreclosed homes, but I'm too poor. I can barely make the car payment. So the only people to profit are the usual culprits: the really rich who are going to get richer while the rest of us are sinking into a depression both emotionally and financially. Also, you forget that as everything tanks, taxes go up because the states aren't getting enough to pay the bills either. I actually own my house outright but the school and property taxes are killing me. I expect the next "bubble" to come when more poor people lose their homes because of rising state taxes and outrageous utility bills. It's already happening in my part of Pennsylvania.

It's actually worse than

It's actually worse than this... Unless I am misreading the data no one has bothered including HELOC's into this equation. Many folks who bought 10-15 years ago have tapped 100-300K in HELOC to renovate their places. Loss of employment will be devastating to this group as well.

If those of us who lived

If those of us who lived wisely and within our means think we're going to come out on top, we've got another thing coming. Bottom line. The money has to come from somewhere because (God forbid!) we should let people reap what they've sown. So, either the gov't prints a lot more money (meaning our savings is meaningless) or tax the hell out of those of us that are working and have money (you didn't earn your money, right?). I'm betting both happens. I thought personal responsibility mattered but I was wrong. This isn't the worst of it either -- when the selfish boomers start "retiring" and down-sizing, they're in for a huge surprise as there is no money in their "investments" (and these are the very few savers). The rest of them are going to work till they drop dead as they saved little or no money.

Houses will continue to go

Houses will continue to go down for years, and will be painful for those whom have taken out huge loans and/or expected to retire using the gains of their home. Unfortunately, there is no other way for the younger generation of US workers to compete with foreigners without the cost of living for non-commodity items to greatly decrease. I worked in India - daily items like food, clothing, autos, electronics, etc. were priced similarly to that in the US. However, housing (i.e. land) is much much cheaper in India, and allows an Indian worker to live for a fraction of what an American would need to earn in order to live in the US. The *only* way for young American workers to compete in this globalized world will be to devalue those goods which are a function of local wages (housing).

The only surprise to me in

The only surprise to me in any of this is that people who discuss this for a living didn't know five years ago. When I moved here from the UK back in 1998 I realized that as an engineer I couldn't buy a home on an affordable loan, one I could pay back. So there I was as a highly paid engineer and there were all these normal people buying houses I could not afford. So where was the money coming from? So I have been a prophet of doom for some ten years. Welcome to the party, enjoy the ride. All we need now is the earthquake.

Absence of proper

Absence of proper regulations, US dollar being the fiat currency for most transactions and the absolute lack of critical analysis from journalists kept this party going for a long time. The US banking system was confident that it would be unchallenged while leveraging its one last remaining strength - sales pitch - to package garbage into fancy names, and more importantly, sell the same to foreign banks. As long as foreign banks were able to send real money to buy the garbage it was good. Its like building a skyscraper without a foundation! Look at it this way: The US is unable to manufacture anything significant, competitively, that the rest of the world would like to purchase. However it is very talented in selling stuff. This single talent is not sufficient to back the extravagant lifestyles, SuVs and the extreme confidence to swipe credit cards during shopping binges. One can't forget the home-equity-loan cash cow that fortified the GDP numbers(of course it did need some doctoring from the government also - see www.shadowstats.com). Most people in the US think that the Fed has acted well, albeit a bit late, and that the economy will bounce back. The market rally of the last four days will probably get cited by journalists who will creep out of the woodwork in the next day or two. Lets hope it works out! More realistically it would seem that several more retailers and banks would go bankrupt. Unless they too get the bailout that they deserve. Wait does that sound like socialism here? What happened to what was that capitalism - or was it?

"are exceed"? who writes

"are exceed"? who writes this stuff?

It's interesting (and

It's interesting (and telling) to read that some states had "weak lending standards" when just a few months prior they were probably categorized as "pro-business." It was also an interesting moment for me a few weeks ago during a discussion with my state's treasurer, when it was explained to me how the rich will get richer from the recession (move to cash early, come back in on fire sale prices). Domed, I tell you; doooooomed!!

Housing went up 100% in 6

Housing went up 100% in 6 years. Now it's down ~21%. No one wants to go out on a limb and say we have a long way to go until the bottom. Housing prices must come back in line with income!

What nonsense - Leave the

What nonsense - Leave the economist, media, and Wall Street scare tactics at home and note, as many actuaries have, that all that has happen is the expected result of Greenspan and Phil Gramm stopping Larry Summers attempt to regulate swaps in 98 has hit, plus a reversal of the liars loans the Bush Administration allowed the banks to run with in 2004 - at the same time allowing the risk taking ratio http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/09/regulatory-exem.html max of 12 to 1 pre 2004 to become 40 to 1. To find your city's real estate price drop go tohttp://www2.standardandpoors.com/portal/site/sp/en/us/page.topic/indices_csmahp/2,3,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.html and look at (or you can save to your computer if you like) the Sept. 08 (the one released today 11/18/08) spreadsheet. Examples of PERCENTAGE drop from July 2006 top of market: CHI 11.2% BOS 9.8% VEGAS 37.9% NYC 11.0% TAMPA 28.1% MIAMI 35.7% DC 24.3% LA 32.4% But notice that this is similar to dropping to the prices in each area during one of the months in 2004 before the great real estate rise that occurred caused by the new liars loans (no proof of income and teaser 1% interest w/ no principal payment and with the principal increases for unpaid interest loans) underwriting that the Banks requested and the Bush Administration chose to not stop. When one says that it is a drop to 2004 prices the housing price drop does not sound as bad as the media headlines seem to imply, and the person to blame - Bush (I know you want to blame Clinton and the Democrats, so - sorry) - becomes obvious.

glad that my house is paid

glad that my house is paid for and that i have converted all my 401k to a yellow shinny metal. if everyone else has time to do this i suggest that you do the same.