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Gen. Jim Jones: What Kool-Aid Will He Offer Obama?

by: Steve Weissman, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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Gen. James Jones, newly named Obama's national security adviser. (Photo: AP)

    The best military advice I know supposedly comes from a subordinate of Napoleon at a time that the French emperor was facing difficulties with his ill-fated military occupation of Egypt. "One can do anything with bayonets, Sire, except sit on them." If only Gen. Jim Jones, the new National Security adviser, had the wisdom to give President-elect Barack Obama the same advice about the already planned escalation of forces in Afghanistan. But don't count on it. From all available evidence, the good general has already urged Obama to dig the United States even deeper into a far-off land that Alexander the Great, the British raj and 150,000 Soviets troops all came to know as "the graveyard of empires."

    A former Marine Corps commandant and supreme allied commander of NATO, Jones is no simple war hawk. Far from it. He stood up against the way Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld ran the war in Iraq and also opposed the surge that his longtime friend John McCain so passionately defended.

    As Jones saw it, the real fight against al-Qaeda lay in Afghanistan, not Iraq, a position that Obama echoed throughout the election campaign.

    So strongly did Jones feel, that he turned his back on heading US Central Command, the job now held by Gen. David Petraeus, and walked away from a chance to become chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. As he told his Marine Corps buddy Gen. Peter Pace, who later took the job, Jones was not willing to be "the parrot on the secretary's shoulder."

    After leaving the military, Jones co-chaired the blue-ribbon Afghanistan Study Group, which issued a report called "Revitalizing Our Efforts, Rethinking Our Strategies." The second edition of their report appeared in January 2008, when the Taliban-led insurgency was even less strong than it is now. But the basic approach will almost certainly guide Jones in his new White House post.

    "The United States and the international community have tried to win the struggle in Afghanistan with too few military forces and insufficient economic aid, and without a clear and consistent comprehensive strategy to fill the power vacuum outside Kabul and to counter the combined challenges of Reconstituted Taliban and al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a runaway opium economy, and the stark poverty faced by most Afghans," wrote Jones and his co-chair, former Ambassador Thomas Pickering.

    "We believe that success in Afghanistan remains a critical national security imperative for the United States and the international community."

    That's quite a mouthful, I know, and the awkward syntax should alert readers to what a gargantuan task General Jones has in mind for the incoming administration.

    In part, he worries that failure in Afghanistan would send a message to terrorist organizations that we and our allies can be defeated. It would. But, to use the new buzzword, let's be pragmatic. Wouldn't it be better to send that message at a time when a new American president offers the world new hope rather than after we follow the British and Soviets into a deadly Afghan quagmire?

    The answer could determine the success of Obama's domestic dreams, and whether he will be a one-term president. Lest he actually believes in the possibility of winning even a half-baked victory, he should read Rudyard Kipling or call Mikhail Gorbachev.

    The problem with Jones goes even further. The vision offered by his Afghanistan Study Group draws heavily on his experience with NATO, as one can see in this recently released letter to the Washington Post that he co-authored with Harlan Ullman, the civilian architect of the Pentagon's Rapid Dominance Strategy, or Shock and Awe.

    "For the first time in its history, NATO is engaged in a ground war, not against a massive Soviet attack across the northern plains of Germany or in Iraq against insurgents and al Qaeda, but in Afghanistan," they wrote. "In committing the alliance to sustained ground combat operations in Afghanistan (unlike Kosovo in 1999), NATO has bet its future. If NATO fails, alliance cohesion will be at grave risk. A moribund or unraveled NATO will have profoundly negative geostrategic impact."

    The words echo the rhetoric of the cold war, only now General Jones and so many other "foreign policy realists" see the big threat as radical Islam and other forces that threaten Western control of the oil and natural gas resources from Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf into Central Asia. Jones views this threat not only as a 40-year marine, but also as a director of both Boeing and Chevron, and to counter it, he has helped Washington push the Europeans to increase their defense spending and join the United States in a multi-national military force to defend Western interests wherever threats appear.

    Afghanistan is just the beginning, and many Europeans are already dragging their feet, seeing Washington's view of NATO as too close to their own imperial past. Just as with the occupation of Iraq, they don't think it will work any better this time. General Jones may hope that Obama's charm can win them over, but I doubt they'll drink the Kool-Aid.

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A veteran of the Berkeley Free Speech Movement and the New Left monthly Ramparts, Steve Weissman lived for many years in London, working as a magazine writer and television producer. He now lives and works in France.

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So what if drinking the

So what if drinking the Jones kool aid consists recommending , more funding for schools, roads, electricity, growing other crops that were plentiful in Afghanistan before Russia invaded, Apricots, Pomegrante, Almonds, grapes, etc (many orchards destroyed by the Russians) while respecting their culture instead of raping it like we have in Iraq. Wonder if "soft power" really meant helping build up the infrastructure of Afghanistan by empowering them and dealing pulling the moderate TAliban members to the table?

Actually, it was Flavor Aid,

Actually, it was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid. Jim Jones? People's Temple? 1978? Cyanide-laced, purple, grape-flavored Flavor Aid. Nine-hundred-eighteen people dead, including more than 270 children. Probably not the best choice for such glib irony...

We need to listen to what

We need to listen to what the Afghan and Iraqi governments are saying and get the hell out of BOTH Iraq AND Afghanistan. We've been there for what, seven years now and haven't managed to wipe out the Taliban? How many more years is it supposed to take? For that matter, how is a regular army supposed to fight a guerrilla force who never appears by the light of day? Give the Afghan army weapons, training, logistical support, whatever they need, but let's leave this one to the Afghanis and get on with our own problems.

Obama's answer today to a

Obama's answer today to a question regarding his campaign promise to remove the troops from Iraq within 16 months after taking office, leads me to believe he'll continue Bush's policies and I'm very saddened to learn that. I voted for him hoping the US would be removing all of the troops from Iraq, and that is not going to be the case.

I wonder if the decision

I wonder if the decision makers have read THE PLACES IN BETWEEN by Rory Stewart. They might rethink their positions or at least be better informed about what they are facing.

I've been saying this for

I've been saying this for months, and if it seems repetitive, too bad. Sometimes repetition works. Even Karzai is talking about withdrawal. AFGHANISTAN: A NO WIN SITUATION Sept 26 08 My plan for Afghanistan is simple: pull out all foreign troops, US, NATO, NGOs, whatever and let the country sort itself out. Let it return to the Dark Ages until it has enough sense to pull itself out on its own. Reason? Over a period of several hundred years, no one, not Ghengis Khan, not the Brits, not the Russians, has been able to overcome Afghanistan and, despite their technical superiority, all have been forced to leave and lick their wounds. Meanwhile the Afghans revert to their time-honored system of warlordships, fighting each other and growing poppies. The current resurgence against foreigners is Taliban-led, not Al Qaeda, which has in its turn spread worldwide, including to Iraq. Adding brigades to the current complement of Western troops will not defeat the Taliban, it will merely add to the toll of dead among the NATO and US soldiers and, much as in Iraq, will never produce anything that can be called "victory." So forget them. All go home. Keep up aerial surveillance, monitor the enclaves, drop a bomb from time to time to remind the Taliban we're still watching, and concentrate on the outlying pockets of extremists in countries such as England, Germany, Holland, the Philippines and so on. That's where the real threat is coming from. Remember, you heard it here first.

I don't believe Obama is a

I don't believe Obama is a Kool-Aid drinker. The distinct difference between the President-elect and his immediate predecessor is that the P-e has both ability and confidence. Mr.Bush had confidence, but it was sadly misplaced both in himself and in the advice he took. NATO including the USA need to take effective action in Afghanistan, not to extend any empire, but to root out and defeat the Taliban and there terrorist henchmen. I believe the new team will have the skill, will, and stamina to do so as long as we the people sustain both our unity and our idealism.

Glib irony is not what I'd

Glib irony is not what I'd call that headline. I'd call it insensitive, offensive, disrespectful given the recent anniversary of that atrocity in Guyana, as well as trite, unoriginal and worn out. You can do better.

This isn't about

This isn't about competence. It's about goals. Clearly, if we increase our military presence in Afghanistan we are not interested in avenging 9/11, but taking over the government. Capturing or killing bin Laden does nothing to secure a US-friendly government in a country crucial to a pipeline from the Caspian Sea. The first question we need to ask Mr. Obama is what he is trying to achieve in Afghanistan, and accept no answer that is not specific. "Making Afghanistan free" or "secure", or ridding it of the Taliban are not specific answers. He must describe the Afghanistan that he is attempting to create and then explain why and how is plans to do it. What is the difference, for instance, between "bringing Democracy to Iraq" as a goal for the US and "bringing communism to Vietnam" as a goal for Russia and China? They are both imperialistic and arrogant - assuming we not only know what is best for a foreign country, but will force what we know is best down their throats with brute force.

a very disappointing

a very disappointing appointment ultimately disastrous

Obama says he is a

Obama says he is a pragmatist, doesn't he? The job is done in Iraq as our military bases are there to stay as a way to maintain security at the oilfields. I know, I know, Obama said he would not allow them to remain but that was never practical. It cost a fortune to secure that oil supply (lives and money) for the big boys and they got their oil contracts back after a 30 year wait. Let's face it, that is why "we" are moving on to the pipeline in Afghanistan. Obama is not stupid; he knows we need the energy right now plus I believe there is a huge amount of natural gas there somewhere too. But please, give us alternative energies so the oil wars can end, O! Help us all curb global warming, O! Please!!

Chevron bought Unocal.

Chevron bought Unocal. Unocal is the braintrust that brought us TAPI. TAPI requires that we "secure" Afghanistan. It has been suggested that it also requires we destabilize relations between Pakistan and India and hope that Balochistan secedes- and route the pipeline through there. Those ideas were discussed much earlier this year. Mumbai's "made for Western television" attack may have more purposes than are immediately apparent. Also in the mix is the proposed IPI [Iran/Pakistan/India] pipeline, which would shut Chevron out of the picture. Given that Condoleeza Rice and General Gates both have such close ties to Chevron, I wouldn't be too quick to decide that NATO's well-being is what's at stake here. In short, follow the g-dd-mn oil money, as usual.

It's astounding how much of

It's astounding how much of US interests in Afghanistan and Iraq relate to gas and oil. However, given how central they are to our economy, I doubt very much we're going to pull out of this energy-rich region anytime soon. As with the British who said they were leaving Iraq for a good 40 years and inally did leave in the 50's , the US says its leaving but we'll leave only when the oil runs dry. Of course, everyone says were their to bring democracy, freedom and women's rights. (but only if it helps to bring oil to our shores!) The other sad part of this story is that the military/oligarchy (that includes, Mr. Obama) that runs this country doesn't listen to the folks at Truthout ,et. al.

I was as much against the

I was as much against the war in Iraq as anyone. However, I do not believe that it makes sense to leave either Iraq or Afghanistan precipitously.

The headline reduces the

The headline reduces the credibility of the writer.

General Jones should sit

General Jones should sit down with Barack and persuade him not to escalate the war in Afghanistan. Afghanistan's social problems are almost hopeless. Unless we are willing to inflict a body count on the Afghan tribes of near genocidal proportions -- and we clearly are NOT so willing, and never will be -- the tribes will continue their traditional activities: trafficking in opium and fighting with each other. There is no way to end the tribal warfare in Afghanistan, or tame the Afghans, or even teach them to read and write in large enough numbers to support a modern economy. All we can do is raid and kill. This will never accomplish anything.

Kathleen, agreed. The only

Kathleen, agreed. The only way to defeat the Taliban is the same way we ultimately "won" in Germany, in any meaningful way. The equivalent of a Marshall Plan. Desperate people buy short term ideas of how to acquire freedom, because they have no options. People who have a decent, safe, quality of life are far less likely to buy into a violent solution.

In Viet Nam, I met an old

In Viet Nam, I met an old man who had served with the Viet Minh to drive the Japanese out for US. He'd left Uncle Ho over a disagreement. What he wanted was education and a life for his grandchildren. His advice was simple to the U.S. Military. "You leave us alone. We leave you alone." After the Russians left, we screwed up, dropped the ball, and other euphemisms. We need to learn our lesson.

Osama bin Laden's Plan to

Osama bin Laden's Plan to Bankrupt America has worked and Bush isn't even out of office "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript released days before the 2004 election. He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers." "We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said. He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration." "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said. Above quotes from transcript here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/

Hey folks, The Kool-Aid

Hey folks, The Kool-Aid reference goes much earlier that Jonestown- it is a reference to the Ken Kesey and the Acid tests where many people joined together in a mass trip. Strangely these drugged out people DID NOT commit suicide, but I digress. What I wonder about is where are all the poppies going to? who is making all that money? remember the Roosevelt fortune- wasn't it based on the Opium trade into China? Just a few pence...

The only people who can

The only people who can install a legitimate democracy in Afghanistan are the Afghanis themselves. One cannot change the idea in peoples' minds that the Taliban is a lesser evil than America at the point of an M-16: that requires economic aid of real substance, something that will jumpstart them into being able to raise themselves up to the Western standard of living. (We can't do that for them, or we risk undermining their pride and the resentment from that will backfire on us. We are also in no position to do so, as Afghanistan and Iraq combined are already killing our own national economy from afar.) At the same time, a cultural revolution has to take place there to realize the idea that fighting each other over the spoils of international assistance harms everyone. To an extent this is already in practice, but in the wrong way, as in the sense of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so while we may shoot each other dead tomorrow, let's go together and kill Americans today." This mindset is not going to change by putting more soldiers in the region. When faced with occupation and oppression, which is how these people see it from their end, people will retreat even further into their ideological shells. Have Westerners given them any reason to change the tribal ways that have sustained them for a thousand years? America is behaving just like the petty warlords, except that America is not native, not local, does not understand or want to understand the complexities of the culture or history, and America can bring a lot more firepower to bear. Being outsiders, we are resented: being occupiers, we are hated. Force will not change that, and neither will more force. "Where there is hatred, let me sow love."

It's obvious the author

It's obvious the author takes delight in the unfortunate connection between the general's name and the tragedy caused by someone of the same name. I read the article to see if the author actually had something meaningful to say. He didn't. Disappointing work for Truthout.

Stupid title, but comparable

Stupid title, but comparable danger -- exponentially multiplied. Gen. Jones may have disagreed with Rummy's incompetent blithering, and been disgusted by the thought of serving under a bullying coward like Bush, but he is, first and foremost, a warhawk -- like the man with a hammer who sees every problem as a nail. You can't "defeat" the Taliban, any more than you can "defeat" poverty or greed. What you CAN do, for a tenth of the cost wasted on the military, is provide schools, basic medicines, water purifiers. People who are reasonably certain of their next meal do not turn to terrorism. The warhawks are treating Afghanland as if it were Germany or Japan. WRONG ANSWER. That land, and that people, can NEVER be beaten, any more than you could take the Rockies in winter. But you CAN "win their hearts and minds" -- by offering just a helping hand in putting their own lives and futures together in their OWN way, and remembering that they don't need us telling them what to do any more than we would appreciate the Chinese coming in and telling us how to run our banking system and car manufacturers, regardless of how much better they are at it.

Jim Jones was chosen for his

Jim Jones was chosen for his view on energy independence being the overriding national security issue. Read more about it here: http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/energy-a-key-priority-for-obamas-national-security-advisor--5280.html There's been a lot of second-guessing all of Mr. Obama's selections in the most negative light. James Jones is intelligent, informed and independent. What more could you ask for in this position? Let's be serious here. Nobody is going to name Che Guevara to this post.

I'm glad I'm not the only

I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the title of this article to be in poor taste.

It seems that the continuing

It seems that the continuing pre-occupation with matters relating to Afganistan have at its heart the continuing hope of realizing the TAPI pipeline. I have serious doubts that TAPI can ever be a reality. However, US policy regarding Afganistan is a response to the growing interest and support of the IPI pipeline, which the US opposes, since it runs through Iran. Since history has repeatedly shown that trying to control any situation in Afganistan through the use of foreign involvement is doomed to failure, it would seem to me to make more sense for the US to work towards normalizing relations with Iran. This would give the US a chance to become involved in major, geoplitically important projects like IPI, and remove the only real reason for our continued involvement in Afganistan.

Ditto to "Stupid Title." And

Ditto to "Stupid Title." And those who keep repeating the 'drinking of the Kool-Aid' bit are stuck in some sort of time warp. To be an Afghan farmer is to be a very hard worker who earns very little pay. The poppy trade is the only crop that pays enough for them to live on, not to mention they also become addicted to the stuff from handling it. I saw a documentary on this and a farmer said he could make more growing saffron but the bulbs are terribly expensive. So what? Get them the darn bulbs to put a strangle hold on the Taliban drug cartel, meanwhile keeping the farmer and his family fed! Bulbs are more expensive than a never-ending war that will not improve their lot in life? I'm willing to trust President Obama's choices for his Cabinet, even if a couple might confuse me. If he doesn't get the results he is after from those he chose, I have no doubt he will find someone else to fill their position.

US invaded Iraq to secure

US invaded Iraq to secure their rear, before going into Iran. They went into Afghanistan as a step toward going after the Caspian Sea Oil. Look at a map. The next names in the news will be Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan.

Come on now, you're really

Come on now, you're really against the idea that NATO could provide some measure of collective action when necessary? Wouldn't collective military action through NATO give Europe a chance to veto a reckless US action?

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