Opinion

Clinton, You Invoked a Political Nightmare

»

by: Keith Olbermann, MSNBC Countdown

photo
US Democratic presidential candidate Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) recently referred to RFK's assassination as a reason for staying in the race. (Photo: Matt Mahurin / WDCPix)

Olbermann: Referencing RFK's assassination as a reason for staying in the race is unforgiveable.

    Asked if her continuing fight for the nomination against Senator Obama hurts the Democratic party, Sen. Hillary Clinton replied, "I don't. Because again, I've been around long enough. You know, my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.
You know, I just don't understand it. You know, there's lots of speculation about why it is. "

    The comments were recorded and we showed them to you earlier and they are online as we speak.

    She actually said those words.

    Those words, Senator?

    You actually invoked the nightmare of political assassination.

    You actually invoked the specter of an inspirational leader, at the seeming moment of triumph, for himself and a battered nation yearning to breathe free, silenced forever.

    You actually used the word "assassination" in the middle of a campaign with a loud undertone of racial hatred - and gender hatred - and political hatred.

    You actually used the word "assassination" in a time when there is a fear, unspoken but vivid and terrible, that our again-troubled land and fractured political landscape might target a black man running for president.

    Or a white man.

    Or a white woman!

    You actually used those words, in this America, Senator, while running against an African-American against whom the death threats started the moment he declared his campaign?

    You actually used those words, in this America, Senator, while running to break your "greatest glass ceiling" and claiming there are people who would do anything to stop you?

    You!

    Senator - never mind the implications of using the word "assassination" in any connection to Senator Obama...

    What about you?

    You cannot say this!

    The references, said her spokesperson, were not, in any way, weighted.

    The allusions, said Mo Uh-leathee, are, "...historical examples of the nominating process going well into the summer and any reading into it beyond that would be inaccurate and outrageous."

    I'm sorry.

    There is no inaccuracy.

    Not for a moment does any rational person believe Senator Clinton is actually hoping for the worst of all political calamities.

    Yet the outrage belongs, not to Senator Clinton or her supporters, but to every other American.

    Firstly, she has previously bordered on the remarks she made today...

    Then swerved back from them and the awful skid they represented.

    She said, in an off-camera interview with Time on March 6, "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June, also in California. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual. We will see how it unfolds as we go forward over the next three to four months."

    In retrospect, we failed her when we did not call her out, for that remark, dry and only disturbing, in a magazine's pages. But somebody obviously warned her of the danger of that rhetoric:

    After the Indiana primary, on May 7, she told supporters at a Washington hotel:

    "Sometimes you gotta calm people down a little bit. But if you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband did not get the nomination until June of 1992. I remember tragically when Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process."

    And at Shepherdstown, West Virginia, on the same day, she referenced it again:

    "You know, I remember very well what happened in the California primary in 1968 as, you know, Senator Kennedy won that primary."

    On March 6th she had said "assassinated."

    By May 7 she had avoided it. Today... she went back to an awful well. There is no good time to recall the awful events of June 5th, 1968, of Senator Bobby Kennedy, happy and alive - perhaps, for the first time since his own brother's death in Dallas in 1963... Galvanized to try to lead this nation back from one of its darkest eras... Only to fall victim to the same surge that took that brother, and Martin Luther King... There is no good time to recall this. But certainly to invoke it, two weeks before the exact 40th anniversary of the assassination, is an insensitive and heartless thing.

    And certainly to invoke it, three days after the awful diagnosis, and heart-breaking prognosis, for Senator Ted Kennedy, is just as insensitive, and just as heartless. And both actions, open a door wide into the soul of somebody who seeks the highest office in this country, and through that door shows something not merely troubling, but frightening. And politically inexplicable.

    What, Senator, do you suppose would happen if you withdrew from the campaign, and Senator Obama formally became the presumptive nominee, and then suddenly left the scene? It doesn't even have to be the "dark curse upon the land" you mentioned today, Senator. Nor even an issue of health. He could simply change his mind... Or there could unfold that perfect-storm scandal your people have often referenced, even predicted. Maybe he could get a better offer from some other, wiser, country. What happens then, Senator? You are not allowed back into the race? Your delegates and your support vanish? The Democrats don't run anybody for President?

    What happens, of course, is what happened when the Democrats' vice presidential choice, Senator Thomas Eagleton of Missouri, had to withdraw from the ticket, in 1972 after it proved he had not been forthcoming about previous mental health treatments. George McGovern simply got another vice president.

    Senator, as late as the late summer of 1864 the Republicans were talking about having a second convention, to withdraw Abraham Lincoln's re-nomination and choose somebody else because until Sherman took Atlanta in September it looked like Lincoln was going to lose to George McClellan.

    You could theoretically suspend your campaign, Senator.

    There's plenty of time and plenty of historical precedent, Senator, in case you want to come back in, if something bad should happen to Senator Obama. Nothing serious, mind you.

    It's just like you said, "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

    Since those awful words in Sioux Falls, and after the condescending, buck-passing statement from her spokesperson, Senator Clinton has made something akin to an apology, without any evident recognition of the true trauma she has inflicted.

    "I was discussing the Democratic primary history, and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged California in June in 1992 and 1968," she said in Brandon, South Dakota. "I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That's a historic fact.

    "The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy. I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive, I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever."

    "My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to and I'm honored to hold Senator Kennedy's seat in the United States Senate in the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family. Thanks. Not a word about the inappropriateness of referencing assassination.

    Not a word about the inappropriateness of implying - whether it was intended or not - that she was hanging around waiting for somebody to try something terrible.

    Not a word about Senator Obama.

    Not a word about Senator McCain.

    Not: I'm sorry...

    Not: I apologize...

    Not: I blew it...

    Not: please forgive me.

    God knows, Senator, in this campaign, this nation has had to forgive you, early and often...

    And despite your now traditional position of the offended victim, the nation has forgiven you.

    We have forgiven you your insistence that there have been widespread calls for you to end your campaign, when such calls had been few. We have forgiven you your misspeaking about Martin Luther King's relative importance to the Civil Rights movement.

    We have forgiven you your misspeaking about your under-fire landing in Bosnia.

    We have forgiven you insisting Michigan's vote wouldn't count and then claiming those who would not count it were Un-Democratic.

    We have forgiven you pledging to not campaign in Florida and thus disenfranchise voters there, and then claim those who stuck to those rules were as wrong as those who defended slavery or denied women the vote.

    We have forgiven you the photos of Osama Bin Laden in an anti-Obama ad...

    We have forgiven you fawning over the fairness of Fox News while they were still calling you a murderer.

    We have forgiven you accepting Richard Mellon Scaife's endorsement and then laughing as you described his "deathbed conversion."

    We have forgiven you quoting the electoral predictions of Boss Karl Rove.

    We have forgiven you the 3 a.m. Phone Call commercial.

    We have forgiven you President Clinton's disparaging comparison of the Obama candidacy to Jesse Jackson's.

    We have forgiven you Geraldine Ferraro's national radio interview suggesting Obama would not still be in the race had he been a white man.

    We have forgiven you the dozen changing metrics and the endless self-contradictions of your insistence that your nomination is mathematically probable rather than a statistical impossibility.

    We have forgiven you your declaration of some primary states as counting and some as not.

    We have forgiven you exploiting Jeremiah Wright in front of the editorial board of the lunatic-fringe Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

    We have forgiven you exploiting William Ayers in front of the debate on ABC.

    We have forgiven you for boasting of your "support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans"...

    We have even forgiven you repeatedly praising Senator McCain at Senator Obama's expense, and your own expense, and the Democratic ticket's expense.

    But Senator, we cannot forgive you this.

    "You know, my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

    We cannot forgive you this - not because it is crass and low and unfeeling and brutal.

    This is unforgivable, because this nation's deepest shame, its most enduring horror, its most terrifying legacy, is political assassination.

    Lincoln.

    Garfield.

    McKinley.

    Kennedy.

    Martin Luther King.

    Robert Kennedy.

    And, but for the grace of the universe or the luck of the draw, Reagan, Ford, Truman, Nixon, Andrew Jackson, both Roosevelts, even George Wallace.

    The politics of this nation is steeped enough in blood, Senator Clinton, you cannot and must not invoke that imagery! Anywhere! At any time!

    And to not appreciate, immediately - to still not appreciate tonight - just what you have done... is to reveal an incomprehension of the America you seek to lead.

    This, Senator, is too much.

    Because a senator - a politician - a person - who can let hang in mid-air the prospect that she might just be sticking around in part, just in case the other guy gets shot - has no business being, and no capacity to be, the President of the United States.

    Good night and good luck.

»


IN ACCORDANCE WITH TITLE 17 U.S.C. SECTION 107, THIS MATERIAL IS DISTRIBUTED WITHOUT PROFIT TO THOSE WHO HAVE EXPRESSED A PRIOR INTEREST IN RECEIVING THE INCLUDED INFORMATION FOR RESEARCH AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. TRUTHOUT HAS NO AFFILIATION WHATSOEVER WITH THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS ARTICLE NOR IS TRUTHOUT ENDORSED OR SPONSORED BY THE ORIGINATOR.

"VIEW SOURCE ARTICLE" LINKS ARE PROVIDED AS A CONVENIENCE TO OUR READERS AND ALLOW FOR VERIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY. HOWEVER, AS ORIGINATING PAGES ARE OFTEN UPDATED BY THEIR ORIGINATING HOST SITES, THE VERSIONS POSTED ON TO MAY NOT MATCH THE VERSIONS OUR READERS VIEW WHEN CLICKING THE "VIEW SOURCE ARTICLE" LINKS.

Comments

This is a moderated forum.  It may take a little while for comments to go live.

Yes, Deborah, I agree with

Yes, Deborah, I agree with you that if McCain is elected for a third Bush term we'll have plenty of trouble on our hands. But my point is that the Democratic party may very well have helped enable the election of McCain by rushing to embrace Obama and conducting their primary in the fashion that they did. I can just hear it now. If McCain is elected, all the Hillary bashers will act out and blame Hillary for that, too, instead of maybe looking at other possibilities for why the Democrats might lose this election -- such as disenfranchising a huge portion of voters in the Democratic party by rushing to shut down the primaries. These super delegates were just destined to make a segment of the Democratic party feel disenfranchised and cheated. If it had gone the other way, Obama's voters would have felt like sitting it out, too -- and you know it. So go ahead and blame Hillary for that, for simply running in the first place. And of course, none of these blowhards in the media will take any blame for alienating vast numbers of the voting public by their continued demonizing of Hillary Clinton. They'd really better give it a rest. They're not helping "their guy" at all by their biased reporting of this primary. They've done a lot of damage, too. But in the end, they have the mouthpiece and it'll all be Hillary's fault...But you're right -- the primaries are over, And things might really get tough from here on in.

To Ex-Olbermann Fan Just a

To Ex-Olbermann Fan Just a note - if Bush himself is elected for a third term, we've got many more and bigger things to worry about than just the Democratic Primaries. He's a lame duck - to have that person holding that office for twelve years running violates the Twenty-second Amendment to the Constitution, which was enacted by the Republican 80th Congress. The rationale behind it was to prevent a kind of "benevolent dictatorship" from settling into the office. If McCain is elected, it'll be a third term of Bush policies without having the same person openly at the helm. The letter of the law would be preserved, but how well the spirit of the law would be followed is up for debate. Still, so long as the letter is followed, the people will have their voice.

What Senator Clinton has

What Senator Clinton has done is disqualify herself. She's been claiming that she has the experience, false in itself, but meanwhile has shown that she has poor judgment. Repeatedly. Anyone who would vote into the presidency someone who has openly announced that she would obliterate another sovereign nation because they are said to want a tiny portion of what the US has is not only unfit for the presidency but apparently psychopathic. So terribly disappointed in her.

I've read all the above

I've read all the above threads, and such diversity of opinion spoken without the threat of police action follow-ups is the core nature of so-called democratic free speech. Tho the entire concept of democracy is just another latter-day idolatry and substitute for the Greater Truths yet to emerge. Not to rave on about the topic at hand I'm curious to know, if Hillary is sooo very bad for all the reasons given above and then some, what the f---k is sooooo very great and good about Obama. I believe myself to be informed from extra-media sources about this guy and I ask y'all, aside from all the vacuous rhetoric that tickles some ears and 'sounds' nice (well it doesn't even sound that nice really, I'll be downing the sound, turning my head or going to the toilet like I do everytime that top notch dip-stick, the Bushski comes on the Tel-Avivison to lie his lie if I am forced to listen to the tedious monotones of Obama's "CHANGE OF LIES YOU CAN BELIEVE IN"), what, of any actual real substance does this guy ever say??? His campaign moola comes out of Mr.Nice-Guy Philanthropist G. Soros' moola bin and Soros's well cashed up investment bankers' (read-VULTURE FUNDS) bins as well. They must be expecting big returns , wouldn't you think? As some above have wisely said those remarks by Hillary are small time side issues (if that), the big issues are of what substance are thes two candidates actually made. Listen to their speech transcripts to ascertain this. Hillary has her finger more on the pulse than does Obama.

Nightmare indeed. She was

Nightmare indeed. She was alive during the horrors of 1968 in America. Barely, if ever, healed from the wound of JFK's assassination, split by the Vietnam war, and living thru the horrible loss of Martin Luther King Jr., and the apex of horror, the loss of RFK, of our hopes in all three, our innocence, our beliefs. And Malcolm X killed, too. The question for Hillary after this repetition of March's nastiness, demands the question Welch asked of HUAC Joe McCarthy: Have you no decency??????

Keith is our Edward R.

Keith is our Edward R. Murrow, only better. Without his truthtelling, I might have to move to Canada.

This takes it a bit far, a

This takes it a bit far, a stretch even for K. We might as well have a moratorium on bad stuff we can and cant talk about regarding its relevance using our lowest commonly denominated politically and ethnically sensitive standards. Yeah shit blows up...you cant say fire in a crowded movie theater or certain words in airports, but we cant now speak of historical tragedies whether or not it fits the situation we are in?...is it too... subliminal?...or is it voodoo he is criticizing her for? this is crack- ps i don't care for the candidate that much, but reaally?

Well Clinton backers, Say

Well Clinton backers, Say what you will, but Keith is spot on in what he said. Supporting your candidate does not mean blind allegiance. The truth is the truth...live it, love it!

Perhaps if the Honorable

Perhaps if the Honorable Senator Clinton had used the phrase " Robert Kennedy had campaigned well into June' instead of her assassination remark, it would have been taken as she says it should have been taken. For someone so able as the Senator to make such a juvenile mistake and I am not sure it was a mistake, is disturbing. I certainly do not want a President of ours to be in the throws of negotiation and emit such a blunder.

To Kevin, I earlier said

To Kevin, I earlier said that I had enjoyed Olbermann's smackdowns of Bush, even knowing at the time that some of them were way over the top, SIR. I think, what I was trying to say in my comment, Sir, is far more nuanced, Sir. Even though I believe that Hillary would have been the stronger candidate before the rush to anoint Obama, I still recognize her flaws. The vote to give the war powers to Bush helped cost the Democrats that year's mid-term elections and I was appalled by it. However, in the meantime, I have seen things that I am also very disturbed by. I have seen my favorite cable news network become a shrill shill for Obama -- and frankly, it has not been a pretty sight. To watch an hour of Chris Matthews followed by an hour of Keith Olbermann as they try to shut down the Democratic Presidential primaries before they are technically over has been very upsetting indeed. I don't care what the math is, let the process play out. Pretend to have a democratic interest in people's votes. I have just found it extremely off-putting and I think that they have made a huge mistake in trying to circumvent what is a PROCESS that should be played out. I have not drunk ANYONE's kool-aid. I find this all rather sobering, unhappily. To see the display of these supposed newsmen actually slobbering over Obama and villifying Hillary Clinton, is not a pretty sight. I actually watched the intelligent Rachel Maddow one night go into a snit and say something to the effect of: They've got to shut this down right now! (speaking of the Democratic primaries -- and this was at least two or three months ago!!!!) Now, I'm sorry, you Obama-ites, if you think that's the way you want yor guy to win, then I think that's just pitiful and it doesn't bode well for the Democrats in the fall -- and God help us, if Bush gets a third term. After all this is said, I will probably vote for Obama in the fall if he is the nominee -- if I'm not totally turned off by that time and just sit this one out. I reserve the right to do that, depending on how this all plays out. I have nothing against Obama personally. What I find objective is the way the press has covered this campaign and the way the Democratic party has run it. If this is the way they plan to run the country, I'm not sure they deserve to win. And let me hasten to say, that I have never voted for anyone other than a Democrat for all my voting years. Just please don't try to categorize me as uneducated, racist, old woman, etc. etc. etc. As I said before, perhaps I have watched too much cable news and should now read more good books. But I couldn't resist attempting to answer your comment.

I find it funny that people

I find it funny that people are behind Olbermann when he dogs Bush, but gawd-forbid he verbally smacks Hillary down. She was out of line, without any doubt -- deal with it Hillary supporters! Hillary will be another egotistical dictator just like Bush, never listening to reason or doing what's best for the country. Look closely and you'll see that she's Rove and Bush in one person. Thankfully, she won't be president or even vice president now.

I'm am growing increasingly

I'm am growing increasingly impatient with journalists, like Olbermann, that snip a politician's words and phrases out of context and completely distort their original meaning. Clinton was not saying that if Obama were to be shot to death that she would have a chance at the nomination. No! Clinton's mention of the RFK assassination was couched in a conversation where she explained that, by historical standards, June is not the time to throw in the towel and admit defeat. The past has shown that victory in still possible.

Keith was totally correct

Keith was totally correct here. I had the same visceral reaction. It's one thing to try and make a rationalization for staying in the race... she could have simply mentioned various people who stayed in till June (against all odds, no matter whether it was successful or not) without mentioning anything at all about RFK's assassination. It was deplorable. It did not need to be invoked. It did not need to be mentioned. At all. It had nothing to do with the point she was trying to make. I can not believe that there was not something intentional. She chooses her words well. Repeating them time and again. They all do. For those of us who lived through those times, it is a nightmare not to be revisited.

Keith, You are

Keith, You are wrong! Senator Clinton did not invoked the nightmare of political assassination. You did! Loud and clear! Not once, not twice, but more than a half dozen times. You are the one who actually used the word "assassination" over and over again in the middle of a campaign with a loud undertone of racial hatred  -  and  gender  hatred  - and political hatred. You are the one who actually used the word "assassination" over and over again in a time when there is a fear, unspoken but vivid and terrible, that our again-troubled land and fractured political landscape might target a black man or a white woman running for president. But, you know what Keith. . . it's alright! It should be invoked! Those of us who would like either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton elected this November are not only thinking about it, we're worrying about. And, believe me not talking about it will not make it go away. We should all be talking about it. . . invoking it into the conversation. But, that was not what Senator Clinton was doing. She wasn't invoking political assassination into the conservation. Nor is she, as you said, "actually hoping for the worst of all political calamities." No, all she did was to mention in context an historical event trying to respond to you and other supporters of Senator Obama who have tried and tried and tried and tried to force her out of this race, prematurely. So Keith, get off you high-horse and stop trying to blow everything Senator Clinton says out of proportion in order to force her out of this race. It makes you look like an ass! It makes you look like Bill O'Reilly! Respectfully yours, Dee Newman

good grief. Can we get back

good grief. Can we get back to the problems facing the world, please, and how to repair the damage caused by the uber greed of the Bush family of friends in the world we ALL have to share. Bobby was murdered one day during his run for President. Ok, i remember. That is a fact. The fact is also, the someone else gained from the tragedy. Oh yes, its better to pretend otherwise, not speak the truth. Hilary is being honest. Isnt it sickening? I have thought the exact same thing, not thinking of the Kennedy Tragdy hoax, but simply that anything could happen. Anything. A nuclear bomb could be set off in the world. How might that change peoples thinking? Oh no think of such a thing, it is so Unamerican to think about possiblity. To take everything you can think of into consideration. Lets just think of nice nice. That is how all the problems will be fixed. What the heck is wrong with 'the bad seed' being elected President, when NEEDED. I ask myself, Does Obama have the Balls to pull the trigger on a dinner guest who is representing ideals we as Americans do not care to hear about...as we did to Madam Nu of VietNam? Hilary could. She is my gal, the one to get the job done, the one who could serve a guest diner laced with deadly nightshade, and sleep well knowing she has served her nation to the best of her ability. Counld Obama? Maybe his pastor could, but Obama? I have to wonder. Sound to nasty to be spoken in a decent race? Oh, get REAL.

She ABSOLUTELY was invoking

She ABSOLUTELY was invoking the assassination Of Robert Francis Kennedy in order to put the scare into Barack Obama...after all, when Vincent Foster posed a problem for the Clintons...he was found "suicided"; the same with Ron Brown. Someone even survived the initial crash, only to die of a broken neck in the transport. And who took former Warren Commission member Hale Boggs to the airport? William Jefferson Clinton Please visit http://911liarsexposed.blogspot.com for more information - stand up and fight with WE THE PEOPLE.

...unspoken fear

...unspoken fear ... Perhaps it is time that fear be spoke aloud ... much as all the "Take your boobs and go home!" commentary needs be stopped ... the primary is over when all the votes have been cast.

keith's point is that

keith's point is that thoughts are powerful - if enough people think the same thing at the same time they create a thought form that can manifest physically... our parents and their parents and their parents all taught this - why have some of us, like hilliary, forgotten. Thoughts have power... and when one articulates them that power increases.

evidently we have also

evidently we have also forgiven here for using fake regional accents depending on to whom she is speaking. and evidently we have also forgiven her for supporting NAFTA and the WTO, then saying otherwise when confronted with working class voters. and evidently we have forgiven her decades of losing or misplacing documents. and we have evidently forgiven her for years of documented shady business deals... at the very least of it the cattle futures... remember people remember. and evidently we have forgiven her for making it seem that being hostess to the wives of other leaders is somehow pertinent and heavy experience upon which to draw to be President. Please America, run these quintessential insiders back out of the beltway. John

Hilary Coulter?

Hilary Coulter?

Actually the word she used

Actually the word she used was "assassinated". Not "assassination" as Keith incorrectly quotes. Keith should correct the article and resubmit. He's working too fast on the 25/8 news cycle. (An ex-editor)

Clinton is becoming Lady

Clinton is becoming Lady Macbeth. Do not doubt that many people want Obama dead for daring to offer slight disruptions to the criminal status quo in which the Clintons participate. I hope Barack survives this. I hope we have a real election and not martial law by November.

I like Natasha's comment

I like Natasha's comment above. Would African Americans be served well if Lous Farrakhan ran for president? Italians if , say, Al Capone ran? Germans if Hermann Goering ran? Spaniards if Jose Antonio ran? On and on..... We do need look at the candidates themselves and choosing a woman simply because she's a woman (a) may be bad for the nation (should we forget that consideration in favor of gender politics?) and (b) give women candidates a bad name. Though not entirely, for sensible voters will know that one disastrous choice does not represent all women. No more so than George Bush represents all men.

A Woman Scorned. That is

A Woman Scorned. That is exactly what Hillary has become now, and it is a shame. To imply that you are staying in a race for the presidential nomination out of the possibility that your opponent may become a victim of assassination is really inappropriate.

Give me a break, Keith. All

Give me a break, Keith. All this feigned indignation and shock. It's just another excuse to bash Hillary Clinton, his new favorite target. He literally foams at the mouth as he keeps repeating over and over and over the very thing that he says should not be uttered out loud. How phony it seems to me and what a joke he has become. Sad. I used to love to watch the tirades against Bush and his administration, but now that he has turned to Hillary and piled on, I have to admit that the blinders are off and I think MSNBC has become as shrill on the left as FOX is on the right. I guess that was their intention. But I feel like this Democratic primary has sobered me up...In future, instead of a being a political TV news junkie, I think I'll read a good book.

Everyone is tired of Hillary

Everyone is tired of Hillary Bush-McCain's supporters showing up every time a breath of criticism is uttered against her. Hillary is too intense for words. All is being thrown into the campaign machine including her reason, and her civility. Now we know what went on inside of the Billary White House; it must have been akin to Dante's 5th circle of Hell: Reserved for The Wrathful and Sullen. These souls are submerged into the river Styx.

devon Excellent points.

devon Excellent points. Though Clinton had made this reference 2 or 3 times previously, this time she went off script and muddled her prepared response. For those Hillarroids who still make excuses for this depicable engine of raw ambition, you can cry misogyny all you like. It's pretty clear that the Clinton's are really vile people who will do anything, pander to any hate group to regain power. BTW, Obama was left with no choice but to offer the subdued response that he did. If he stirs up 'race' by responding harshly, he gives the Clinton's what they obviously seek: an election about white versus un-white.

Oh, pulease, give us all a

Oh, pulease, give us all a break with the feminist rhetoric would you. Feminism is a scam to get more people into debt, more divided and to create a nation of medication consumers to fill the pockets of people who lend money and make drugs. Is anyone else sick and tired of whining, moaning feminists. I love the way Hilary hides behind the F word, every time she needs a get out of jail card. I don't see Obama using the race card. Always be wary of anyone who uses their ism to emotionally blackmail you, which is what feminists have been doing for 35 years.

If Bobby were alive, he

If Bobby were alive, he would defend her right to make this statement and criticize the media pundits for twisting her words. Those of us who remember Bobby and loved him also remember his love for the truth. Now, get over it!

As a staunch and very

As a staunch and very politically active feminist from childhood, I takke real issue with the way that people characterize any attack against this one woman Hillary as sexist and misogynist! Women, do we want a person of this caliber to represent us in the White Office? Do we need another Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas? I want to see women at at least 50% in Congress and in all public positions, if not more. But if they all happened to be Right wing Evangelical hate-spouting war-mongers, I'd look around for any other candidates-- horrors, even at the men! I was so sad to see in a recent I think it was NOW or NARAL newsletter about all the sad feminists whose hopes are being crushed, not by the person that Hillary is, not by the fact that she would be just as terrible a president as any other, but by the fact that-- sob-- people aren't voting for her! Girls, women, RUN FOR OFFICE! Don't let Hillary make you downhearted-- it isn't the sexist system that has let you down, it's Hillary's character. Sure, she has faced some gender-based challenges. But not nearly so much as she complains of-- it's like she is trying to get the feminist and liberal vote by convincing us a vote (or comment) against Hillary is a vote against womankind, a vote for sexism. Maybe we should call her on the sexism that she apparently uses in this logic that feminists will be so blinded by her femaleness and cries of 'wolf' that we will forget to look up Obama's record and vote against him as against The Man. (Reference to racism not intended to offend). Are women really so dumb? I don't think so!

I find it absurd how people

I find it absurd how people can even interpret these comments as being "sexist." Had Obama, McCain, anyone, said the same thing, there would be just as much political uproar.. it has nothing to do with her being a woman. It has to do with her making outrageous, disgusting allusions to political assassination. As Olbermann puts it: "A senator - a politician - a person - who can let hang in mid-air the prospect that she might just be sticking around in part, just in case the other guy gets shot - has no business being, and no capacity to be, the President of the United States." Well said.

I hope that the video

I hope that the video version of this special comment will be offered on Truthout ASAP. Yes, Mr. Olberman was visibly and audibly enraged at the implication in the comments of Mrs. Clinton this past Friday. For those responders who thought him to be "over the top" or injecting gender-bias into this special comment, I urge you to give Mr. Olbermann a fair shake by reading/viewing it again. He articulated his position very well y pointing out how forgiving the nation has been to Mrs. Clinton and itemizes for the reader all of those points. It is not about sexism or anything else for Olbermann, but apparently, he is as fed-up as many of us are with the malicious tone and the pre-emptive attitude and willingness to say or do anything to win by someone as esteemed as Mrs. Clinton. There are plenty of female pundits who are calling Mrs. Clinton on this destructive behavior as well. Mr. Olbermann, unlike many journalists today, is calling it as it is with respect to intolerable behavior exhibited by an individual running for the highest office in our land ... and we the populous should applaud his talent and his effort.

It's not a slow news week,

It's not a slow news week, but one would think so, given the excessive amount of time given to this comment. Senator Clinton was referring to "you never know what happens in politics" which is so true. Huckabee commented, when hearing a loud gunshot like noise and rumbling, that it must be Obama diving under the table-now that is a definite reference to fear of assassination. apology made, everyone moved on. Good idea. Just look at our last two elections and see how everything changed at the last minute. Of course she should stay in. All of this cable media nonsense regarding non-news has sent me away. I have rediscovered the major networks and newspapers. I quit watching KO months ago, but a friend emailed this latest diatribe, so felt compelled to comment. Ah, how I long for the days of more informational reporting that "infotainment news." Hillary has worked hard and achieved much for this country, in issues that matter to many of us. Too bad people can't get that information.

Hillary is just as

Hillary is just as endangered as Obama to be assassinated. There is a lot of hatred against Hillary out there and one must wonder if Olbermann intended to stoke the hate. Assassinations are part of American history and calling it something else does not change it. The candidates do have secret service protection and most likely the family members too.

Yes, Mrs. Clinton is"ready

Yes, Mrs. Clinton is"ready on day one", she has all this political tact, she knows about finger food for foreign dignitaries, and above all she has this caring feelings for all Americans, the world at large... and the White House. The latter , of course, she also wants very badly.

Tell you what, if the USA

Tell you what, if the USA wants to be the policeman of the world and send in it's "Freedom Fighter's" to decimate countries that is needs to keep it's monopolies in check, then I think the rest of the world should have a chance to vote in every USA federal election, because that election is going to determine our future as well. If that was the case, and we cold vote, I guarantee you that Obama would win by the greatest margin in voting history. Do you people realize just how stupid the Clinton's make Americans look to the rest of the world, and Bush, Jesus Christ, what the hell were you guys thinking when you voted him in a second time, the world was stunned that over half a nation could be so uncaring, so lacking compassion, so blind, to the invaded Iraqis and the scam of the century. Do any Americans actually know what Halliburton and Bechtel are. Do you people live with your heads permanently in the sand. Clinton knows exactly what she is doing when she makes reference to assassinations. Your country is jam-packed with black hating, red-neck Republican-voting imbeciles and anyone who votes for Clinton has no conscience.

If Hillary had run a

If Hillary had run a reasonably civilized campaign and this RFK remark had been her only gaff it probably would have received much less attention. But it comes upon a long string of abuses (See Olbermann's list above) of the voters tollerance. And for Olbermann, and many others, may have been the last straw. There is much to be amazed about Hillary's behavior. One aspect being how much she appears to have taken from the Republicans. She must have read Carl Rove's book. I think citizen20854 above makes a good comment. That Hillary has been a devider. But what for me is particularly astonishing about this is how reckless and destructive she has been. As if she practices slash and burn without ever thinking of the true consequences. Or how sane and intelligent observers will judge her. How can Hillary suporters still support her? Surely they must not be looking at her behavior but at what they imagine she is: her gender, perhaps: or they recall the Clinton White House years when, in spite of Bill, she had some dignity.

Take your meds, Keith! And

Take your meds, Keith! And the rest of you as well! Do you all take professional wrestling as seriously as you're taking this campaign? Hillary is performing a vital service to the Obama campaign by challenging him as hard as McCain will do in the general election; and as for the Bobby K remark, it is completely innocuous. Keith's reaction simply gives Hillary supporters another reason to claim that the media is biased against her, as are so many of you reading and writing here. I will vote for whichever Democrat wins the nomination, and will not under any circumstances personalize this primary battle. You, including Keith, who are trashing either Hillary or Barack are either naive, narcisstic or agents provacateurs. Take your choice.

You say "we" perhaps more

You say "we" perhaps more accurate as the author to say "I" have forgiven. However as you obviously have listed a long list - it appears that you have not forgiven, but are holding a grudge, or perhaps just collecting amo to support your political views. is there a reason that your are not forthright and direct about your positon/bias?

Wow! Has Hillary's comment

Wow! Has Hillary's comment struck a nerve or what? I do not think it deserved a special comment by KO (Knock Out) Keith Olberman. I usually agree with you KO, but to enflame a mistaken comment with a special comment is going to far. Let the dust settle around this one. There are far too many more important issues to be indignant about.

I must be losing it, but I

I must be losing it, but I didn't have a clear understanding of the meaning and therefore the significance of Cllnton's reference, and I had less understanding of Keith Olberman's reaction to it. Apparently the meaning was self-evident--at least to Olberman. Normally, he is clear and lucid and doesn't burden his listeners or readers with the necessity to infer his meaning. He appeared to resent the remark for a number of reasons, none of which made sense to me. These two have a telepathic understanding that I do not possess. The only thing that was clear was that evoking the memory of RFK's demise really has no relevance to campaign issues; and for that reason together with it's vague significance showed poor judgment on her part. Far and away the silliest part of this all is the intensity with which the public responds to Clinton's gaffe. Do we seriously believe that other leaders have not said far worse to their confidants. Perhaps we should be grateful to Clinton for her unmanageable transparency. At least she won't be able to keep her intentions sequestered, as, for example have the Current Occupant of the White House, the courts or Congress.

Thank you for your

Thank you for your editorial. Your outrage gave expression to mine. I have been afraid for Obama ever since he began to earn so very many votes and supporters. For Hillary to continually evoke that nightmare is insensitive, outrageous and narcissistic. I fear for what this reveals about her thinking, her her mindset. Has she been wishing for some such calamity in her heart of hearts? Why else would she choose that as an example of primary contests going into June? I am an avowed feminist and Hillary does not fit my vision of the first woman president. She does not represent me as a woman, nor does she represent me as a feminist. I am profoundly shocked by the way she has "come out" as a raging second wave feminist that those of us who really understand what it is to be a woman could never support. Thank you Keith Olbermann for telling it like it is.

You provide a valuable

You provide a valuable service, Keith Olbermann, but I would say if you're going to bring up outrage about RFK, why don't you mention the non-investigation that whitewashed the assassination? And BTW, there's an interesting video of RFK, Jr., and the right-wing media here: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/326.html Peace -

Hillary's comments were

Hillary's comments were esimply more vicious, Republican-style fear mongering. It's all she has to offer after turning into a Republican New York Senator, after abandoning hundreds of thousands of working class Americans by her bankruptcy legislation reversal, after showing no conscience or courage in her Iraq invasion and Patriot Act votes, after pandering to corporate interests and ignoring democratic common sense. If this is the best woman the country has to offer for high office, we're in terrible trouble.

When Hillary Clinton went

When Hillary Clinton went into this race, she had every reason to believe she was the "anointed" by much of our present political machine. After all, Bill had pardoned several convicted Hassidic Jews and Marc Rich--all of whom had cheated the American taxpayers of millions of dollars--presumably to get Hillary the state of NY and Jewish votes. (All but 10 of the New Square, NY Hassidic voters voted for her.) What a shock to her HUGE ego when a multiracial whippersnapper comes forth as the popular candidate! I have never warmed to Hillary, not because she's a woman, but because I don't find her a likable woman, and she's been a professional politician for years. I do want someone who can talk to our enemies a little before bombing the H out of them. I'm tired of this old kill first and then try to be friends later. I'm 76 years old and have not known peace since I turned 10. Besides, I like Obama's smile. I believe it's genuine. ..Hillary harping on RFK's assassination strikes me as wishful thinking. It's unacceptable, and if such a thing should happen to Obama, she and Bill would always be suspect to me. She should have thought of that before she opened her mouth. She seems to do a lot of that--speaking before engaging her brain. As for her experience--deliver us from the "experience" of the political machines of Washington, D. C. I've had a bellyful of that!

Keith, I love ya, but you're

Keith, I love ya, but you're way over the top on this one.  How about using your valuable time to rant about the thousands of slaughtered children our criminal government has racked up week after bloody week in their corporate invasion of a nation that wasn't a threat to us?  Maybe you could pattern the end of your show after PBS's 'News Hour' when they read the names and show the photos and ages of our precious, fallen US soldiers. You could add to the bigger war picture if you read the names, and showed the photos and ages of the precious, fallen Iraqi children our nation allows its government to kill in the name of security, every single week. Please stop wasting your gifts and talents on inane politics and start using them for social justice, beginning with a weekly rant against our nation's ignorance and apathy regarding this murderous occupation, (destroying the Constitution on the way), AND for the impeachment, indictment, and imprisonment of every single person involved turning this nation from America to Amerika in two short decades.  Impeachment is the only viable option at this point.  So Keith, pull your head out of the political doo-doo and start riding Amerika's asses about the slaughtered children of the war.  It's a crime worth ranting about every single week until We the People of America hold them accountable for their heinous actions.

How sad that when we finally

How sad that when we finally have a female presidential candidate, she's not running as a woman, but as a man in drag! This is just the latest in the bag of dirty tricks pioneered by whlte MALE politicians--and Republicans, at that. In her effort to prove herself as macho as the next man, Hillary has made the mistake of trying to be all things to all people... and as a result has ended up being no one. Oddly, it is Obama who has run the more "feminine" campaign, in that he has been speaking up for ethical values in politics, and in national life... and you get the strong sense that he really means it. If we are to have a chance at a third century for the American experiment, I'm afraid we will have to abandon the macho patriarchal tactics that have brought this country, and the world, to the brink of extinction again and again. And interestingly, it seems to be Obama, not Clinton who is prepared to lead the way back to political and cultural sanity. Macho posturing--even by a woman--is just "same shit, different day."

To "I haven't been able to

To "I haven't been able to find" My opinion is that you are projecting your dramatic fantasy on Hillary. Hillary is a wide screen for everyone's fantasy, haters and supporters alike. As is Obama.

Keith, I love ya, but you're

Keith, I love ya, but you're way over the top on this one.  How about using your valuable time to rant about the thousands of slaughtered children our criminal government has racked up week after bloody week in their corporate invasion of a nation that wasn't a threat to us?  Maybe you could pattern the end of your show after PBS's 'News Hour' when they read the names and show the photos and ages of our precious, fallen US soldiers. You could add to the bigger war picture if you read the names, and showed the photos and ages of the precious, fallen Iraqi children our nation allows its government to kill in the name of security, every single week. Please stop wasting your gifts and talents on inane politics and start using them for social justice, beginning with a weekly rant against our nation's ignorance and apathy regarding this murderous occupation, (destroying the Constitution on the way), AND for the impeachment, indictment, and imprisonment of every single person involved turning this nation from America to Amerika in two short decades.  Impeachment is the only viable option at this point.  So Keith, pull your head out of the political doo-doo and start riding Amerika's asses about the slaughtered children of the war.  It's a crime worth ranting about every single week until We the People of America make them stop committing it.

I haven't been able to find

I haven't been able to find the accurate summation of words I need to express my shock with yet one more affirmation that we are on the right track. I just wish there was some way to penetrate the campaign of Clinton to say this is not about gender, this is about a misplaced dream, and a strategy that seems to have surpassed the Bush/Rove fear factor. Could Clinton possibly be so blind as to believe that increasing the size of the target (bulls eye) on Obama's back will increase her chances. She has left no dragon unslain, race, gender, socioeconomic, north south, urban suburban, educated uneducated. I am left speechless wondering if we have ever in the history of our democracy had a candidate who divides to this degree, who makes us feel that our differences will put her in office. Now I have to wonder if the remaining super delegates have what we want to represent our interests. While the country sinks into its external and internal debt, we have lost track of what qualities we want standing on the doorsteps of the Whitehouse. If we are still in the fighting, show our tough side mode, we will lose! If there be a final straw, I believe Clinton saying outloud, what she has long believed will be her electoral salvation is the perfect storm we need to say ENOUGH!!!! Pass this on, even if I am not a fan of this Olbermann guy,