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McCain Should Know Better

by: Keith Olbermann  |  Visit article original @ MSNBC Countdown

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    Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on Senator John McCain's conclusion that it's "not too important" when American forces come home from Iraq.

    Thoughts, offered more in sorrow, than in anger.

    For two full days now, the Senator and his supporters have been outraged at what they see as the subtraction of context from this extraordinary remark.

    This is, sadly, the excuse of our time, for everything.

    Still. If the Senator claims truncation, we will correct that, first.

     "A lot of people," Matt Lauer began, "now say the surge is working."

     "Anybody who knows the facts on the ground say that," the Senator interjected.

     "If it's now working, Senator," Matt continued, "do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq?"

     "No," answered McCain. "But that's not too important. What's important is the casualties in Iraq. Americans are in South Korea. Americans are in Japan. American troops are in Germany.

     "That's all fine. American casualties and the ability to withdraw. We will be able to withdraw. General Petraeus is going to tell us in July when he thinks we are. But the key to it is we don't want any more Americans in harm's way.

     "And that way they will be safe, and serve our country, and come home with honor and victory - not in defeat, which is what Senator Obama's proposal would have done. And I'm proud of them, and they're doing a great job. And we are succeeding. And it's fascinating that Senator Obama still doesn't realize it."

    And there is the context of what Senator McCain said.

    Well… not quite, Senator.

    The full context is that the Iraq you see is a figment of your imagination.

    This is not a war about "honor and victory," sir.

    This is a war you, and the President you support and seek to succeed, conned this nation into.

    Yes, sir.

    You.

    Of the prospect of war in Iraq, you said, quote,

     "I believe that success will be fairly easy."

     John McCain… September 24th, 2002.

     "I believe that we can win an overwhelming victory in a very short period of time."

     John McCain… September 29th, 2002.

    Of the ouster of Saddam and the Baathists:

     "There's no doubt in my mind that once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators."

     John McCain… March 24th, 2003.

    Asked, about a long-term commitment in Iraq, quote, "are you talking about something in terms of South Korea, for instance, where you would expect U.S. troops to be in Iraq for decades?"

     "No," you answered. "I don't think decades, but I think years. A little straight talk, I think years. And I hope that we can gradually reduce that presence."

     John McCain… March 18th, 2004.

    You were asked about the troops, and the future.

     "I would hope that we could bring them all home. I would hope that we would probably, leave, some military advisers, as we have in other countries, to help them with their training and equipment and that kind of stuff.

     "…I think one of our big problems has been the fact that many Iraqis resent American military presence. And I don't pretend to know exactly Iraqi public opinion. But as soon as we can reduce our visibility as much as possible, the better I think it is going to be."

     John McCain… January 31st. 2005

    When a speaker at your town hall, five months ago, referenced the President's forecast that we might stay in Iraq for 50 years, you cut him off.

     "Make it a hundred! We've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That's fine by me…"

     John McCain… January 3rd, 2008.

    And your forecast of your hypothetical first term.

     "By January, 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq war has been won."

     John McCain… May 15th, 2008.

    That, Senator McCain, is context.

    You have attested to: a fairly easy success; an overwhelming victory in a very short period of time; in which we would be welcomed as liberators; which you assured us would not require our troops stay for decades but merely for years; from which we could bring them all home, since you noted many Iraqis resent American military presence; in which all those troops coming home will also stay there, not being injured, for a hundred years; but most will be back by 2013; and the timing of their return, is… not… that… important.

    That, Senator McCain, is context.

    And that, Senator McCain, is madness.

    The Government Accountability Office just released a study Tuesday that concludes that one out of every ten soldiers sent to Iraq, takes with them medical problems "severe enough to significantly limit their ability to fight."

    In five years, we have now sent 43,000 of them to war even though they were already wounded.

    And when they come home, Is. Not. That. Important.

    Jalal al Din al Sagir, a member of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, and Ali al Adeeb, of the rival Dawa Political Party, gave a series of interviews last week about the particulars of this country's demand for a "Status of Forces" agreement with Iraq — a treaty which Mr. Bush does not intend to show Congress before he signs it.

    The Iraqi politicians say the treaty demands Iraq's consent to the establishment of nearly double the number of U-S military bases in Iraq — from about 30, to 58, and from temporary, to permanent.

    Those will be American men and women who must, of necessity, staff these bases - staff them, in Mr. McCain's MC Escher dream world in which our people can all come home while they stay there for a hundred years but they'll be back by 2013.

    And when they come home, Is. Not. That. Important.

    Last year, a 20-year old soldier from the Bronx, on the day of his re-deployment to a second tour in Iraq, said he just couldn't face the smell of burning flesh again. So, Jonathan Aponte paid a hit man 500 dollars… to shoot him in the knee.

    Mount Sinai Hospital in New York reported treating a patient identifying himself as another Iraq-bound soldier, who claimed he had accidentally swallowed a pen at the bus station. No one doubted his story until examinations proved there was a second pen in his stomach bearing the logo of Greyhound Bus Lines.

    In 2006, says his sister, a 24-year old Army Specialist from Washington State, on the eve of his second deployment, strapped a pack full of tools to his back, and then jumped off the roof of his house, injuring his spine.

    And when they come home — or more correctly, all those like them who did not risk death or disability to avoid going back — when they come home, Is. Not. That. Important.

    You've sold them all out, Senator.

    You.

    You, whose sacrifice for this country was as all-encompassing and as horrible as the rest of us can only imagine in our darkest moments.

    You, who survived, so that you could make America a better place where young men did not have to go and die in pointless wars or be maimed or be held prisoner or have to hire hit-men to shoot them in the knee because that couldn't be worse.

    You, who should know better.

    Where, Senator, is the man who once said "veterans hate war more than anyone else, because veterans know, because veterans know these brave Americans, and others, know, that there is nothing more painful than the loss of a comrade. Where is he, sir?

    Where is the man who described that ineffable truth?

    Oh, so long ago you touched the essence of the reality of Iraq. Your comments about your lost comrades, yesterday.

    The men and women in Iraq, today, Senator — they are your comrades, too.

    And you are condemning them to die.

    To die, for your misdirections, for Mr. Bush's lies — for whoever makes the money off building 58 permanent American bases and all the weapons and all the bullets and all the wiring so costly and so slip-shod that it electrocutes our comrades as they step, not to fight freedom's enemies, but into the shower at the base.

    That, Senator, that is context.

    It is an easy thing to dismiss Senator McCain as a sad and befuddled figure, already challenging for some kind of campaign record for malaprops.

    Just yesterday in Philadelphia he answered Senator Obama, not by defending or explaining his own "not that important" remark, but by seizing upon Obama's "bitter" remark - or trying to.

    Obama had foolishly said that some, in despair, in small towns, cling to their religion and their guns.

    Senator McCain vowed he'd go to those towns and tell them, "I don't agree with Senator Obama that they cling to their religion and the Constitution because they're bitter."

    It was hard not to dismiss with a laugh, Senator McCain, or any Republican, for even accidentally implying that he's clung to the Constitution — not after the last seven years.

    It was hard, the day before, not to become almost bemused when the Senator tried to say he would veto every single bill with earmarks, but wound up, instead, vowing "I will veto every single beer."

    It was hard, this week, not to laugh at how Senator McCain could offer any serious defense against the accusation that he is running for President Bush's third term, when a 2006 interview suddenly surfaced in which McCain said he would consider Dick Cheney for a position in a McCain administration.

    "I don't know if I would want him as Vice President. He and I have the same strengths. But to serve in other capacities? Hell, yeah."

    These are all very funny, in a macabre yet unthreatening way.

    And then one remembers Senator McCain's inability to separate Sunni and Shia, or his insistence that Iran is training Al-Qaeda for service in Iraq, and then being corrected about it, and then saying the same thing again anyway.

    And then one is, inevitably, drawn back again to the overlooked substance of yesterday's remark…

    "If (the surge) is now working, Senator, do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq?"

    "No."

    No?

    The surge is working and even that still tells Senator McCain nothing about when we can ransom our soldiers?

    Wasn't that the ultimate purpose of the surge? To get them out?

    If we cannot tell — if McCain cannot even guess — doesn't that, by definition, mean… the surge isn't working?

    And ultimately we are drawn back to the "not… too… important" remark, in its full context:

    The context of the kaleidoscope of confused rhetoric, and endless non sequiturs, and mutually exclusive conclusions — and what they add up to: a veritable tragedy, a microcosm of the American tragedy that is Iraq, a tragedy of a man who himself will never understand "the context."

    Your tragedy, Senator McCain?

    No. I'm sorry.

    This tragedy is of Justin Mixon of Bogalusa, Louisiana.

    And it's of Christopher McCarthy of Virginia Beach.

    It's of Quincy Green of El Paso, and Joshua Waltenbaugh of Ford City, PA.

    The tragedy is of Shane Duffy of Taunton, Mass, and Jonathan Emard of Mesquite, Texas.

    It's of Cody Legg of Escondido in California, and David Hurst of Fort Sill in Oklahoma.

    The tragedy is of Thomas Duncan, III, of Rowlett, Texas, and Tyler Pickett of Saratoga, Wyoming.

    And who are they, Senator?

    They are ten Americans who have died in Iraq since the first of this month. There are four more. The Defense Department has not yet identified the others.

    And while you, Senator, may ask for all the context you can get, those ten men will never know any of it.

    Because the true context here, is that if you could ask those American war heroes, or the family and the friends that loved them, if they have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq…

    They could rightly say, "No. But that's. Not. That. Important."

    Good night, and good luck.

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Senator McCain is an

Senator McCain is an extremely dangerous man. I'd just been thinking, as recently as last week in the midst of a project on Authoritarian States, (specifically of the Totalitarian version) that one of the things that makes them 'unique' (as opposed to other forms of fascist tyrannies) is that they don't generally prepare for 'successors' to their Totalitarian movements. Hitler didn't and neither did Stalin. Pinochet didn't, (though much of his apparatus was left behind even when he escaped). So I'd just assumed, at least until recently, that the PNAC Cabal hadn't provided for one either. I was naive. McCain is indeed the chosen and anointed successor to the Cabal that highjacked us nearly 8 years ago. If allowed, he'll definitely finish us off.

Totally agree with you

Totally agree with you cyrena. McCain's REAL military record should come to the surface for people to see this farce of a war hero. Ranked 970th in class of 975. He 'lost' 4 planes before nam, very medicore pilot stated his school. All those metals awarded during prison 'camp', when numerjous ones required at least 2 witness, it is a slap in the face to true heros. He only flew a total of 20 hours in Vietnam and then when captured, sang like a bird giving away logistics on military flight patterns where we lost a lot of men and planes, just so HE could get hospital treatment. The other POWs never saw him??? Supposedly they isolated him. ??? His dad was Admiral of the whole pacific fleet during Vietnam and involved with ordering planes back when the USS Liberty was sending out SOS and be fired upon by Israel. Check out USS Liberty, declassified documents. But the most horrendous thing McCain has done is to keep all POW and MIA files classified even to this day! He fought parents trying to find their MIA chlldren and created legislation to ensure no one gets at those records to this day. Check out Vietnam Vets against McCain. Like father like son ,they are both traitors to America.

A well researched piece.

A well researched piece. Well done. Something I'm still waiting to hear from Scott Horsley.

Empire at the expense of

Empire at the expense of democracy is what McCain is about since the effect of his policies amount to the overthrow of the Constitution and Permanent war. If so, can the upcoming "election" be viable or has it been rigged in advance? Certainly, we have only just begun to feel the costs of war. When reflecting that the Bush Administration has already been responsible for over 1 million people killed in Iraq with ten times that number maimed and ten times that displaced and starving we can glimpse its madness. McCain promises to continue to increase this horrifying and reckless carnage. Americans should know that this insane policy would surely bring the war home to the U.S. McCain only invites disaster.

To the commentator

To the commentator immediately above me, I just want to confirm your grave concern about McCain. I only learned today, through an excellent article here, of McCain's secretive personal history with the Project for a New American Century (PNAC). In the past I've given John McCain the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things because of his apparent independence from the right-wing ideologues of the Republican camp. But learning this sends shivers down my spine. Why am I not surprised? I concur, PNAC is the unholy Cabal of fascist fanatics who've taken control of our government, and the threat posed by a McCain Presidency should terrify all men and women of conscience when understood in this context. Woe betide the day if he is elected!

After hearing and reading

After hearing and reading this, how is it that some people are still for McCain? The only thing wrong with KO's assessment here is that John McCain is not the hero he pretends to be. He was not tortured, he freely gave his captors information, he was complicit in the USS Forrestal Fire (look it up), and he is one of the principals involved in the Keating Scandal (look it up). It's time for a bit of swiftboating payback--and this time it's not lies.

I totally agree with the

I totally agree with the person who talked about McCain's status as a hero. It seems that most people are afraid to talk about that. And I think we must talk about it! He agrees with Bush that "torture" is necessary in order to get needed information from suspects. He himself admits that he signed statements under torture simply to stop the torture. If we are to believe, as he states that he does, that information gained through torture is valid and therefore to be used as evidence, then we MUST ask him if he truly believes that he is a criminal and that the United States is a criminal country as he "confessed" under torture.

The surge is not working.

The surge is not working. The apparently step down in violence is because the "insurgents" have largely accomplished their mission of ethnic cleansing their neighborhoods and have driven the Americans from the battlefield. The reduction in US casualties is because they are hunkered down on their bases and there is nothing for them to do. The Americans now understand that all Iraqis consider them the enemy. Somebody should remind McCain that the deplorable long-time US occupation of Japan and Korea was due to the absence of hostility of an armed population. Iraq is by no means comparable.

McCain still fighting WWII?

McCain still fighting WWII? It sounds to me like McPain is lost somewhere in Europe refighting WWII. Unlike WWII, the war we fight today cannot be won using military force. I am not exactly sure how it can be won, and I am certain the surge is not winning in the war in Iraq. Little beknownst to John McCain, Al Qaida in Iraq is still there, and is still a major player according to many news sources, one being CNN. There are still about 10 suicide bombings and 2 car bombings per day in Iraq, and the fact that this violence is not reported, makes it easy for McCain to lie and say violence in Iraq is diminishing. Iraq has the equivelant of 12 Virginia Tech shootings every day. The insurgents are trying to kill off professional people, especially professional women at an astounding rate. Because the US will not keep a record of the many hundreds of murders in Iraq every day, does not mean they are not happening or the violence is diminishing. It is quite to the contrary. The war in Iraq will be won by whomever wins it, as soon as we get out and let the cards lay as they may.

I LOVE KEITH!! Does anybody

I LOVE KEITH!! Does anybody know here or anywhere that McCain comes from the same silver spoon genre that Bush Comes from? Just like Bush, his early education was due to family connections. He graduated BOTTOM 1% of his college class!! DON'T ELECT ANOTHER DUMMY no matter how prejudiced you may be about giving blacks their due place in the USA. 2009 is your last chance to REDEEM THE USA you know should exist.

McCain caught the 'virus'.

McCain caught the 'virus'. We have to stop it or it will consume the world. See the movie 'They Live'. The only plausible explanation for then actions of many in our and other governments around the world. "Just cuzz it looks Human, don't mean it is" aikiv

Re liberal Warrior "They

Re liberal Warrior "They Live" has one of the best explanations for why things are the way they are. Why is the atmosphere of Earth being destroyed? For those that do not believe in aliens, I have this question: How could the rich and powerful be doing this to their own people? Even if they are not aliens, they have aligned themselves to the destruction of Earth so they might as well be treated as such. Non-believers give me an answer to that.

Non-believers give me an

Non-believers give me an answer to that. Money, Its as simple and stupid as that some people can never have enough.

Re; "Non-believers give me"

Re; "Non-believers give me" ... Believe or not (In Aliens) ("Money, Its as simple and stupid as that"). Yes! Excessive greed is the motivating factor, but greed at all costs is accountable only if you are ignorant or don't care about the consequences. That is alien to 'humane' responses to life threatening consequences. The point isn't, that they are Extra-terrestrial aliens, it is that they are 'alien' in they humane responses. They look like humans, but are inhumane in their actions. Therefore they are 'Alien' to us and the environment. How do we account for this behavior? Have they contracted a virus that effects (Mentally) their normal humane actions. Seems so. We need to recognize this affliction and counter it promptly and effectively by calling it out and driving it in to submission politically. Not all viruses attack the body, we have a rampant, powerful virus attacking the humanity of humans. We need to be aware of this, now! Some 'Conservatism' is simply inhumane, lacking any vestige of humanity. .... .............. A KNESAL 'Liberal Warrior'

Great, impassioned comment

Great, impassioned comment by Olbermann! The examples of the suffering by the troops was very moving, as were the examples of their desire to escape the hell of their endless redeployments. re: McCain's confusion and befuddlement and "180" turns: I wonder if the neo-con and mil.-industrialists making a killing (le mot juste) off this war and future occumpation have "gotten to McCain" in one way or another and he's their puppet now. It's not so outlandish; we have a puppet in now - Shrub, notwithstanding his professions that he's doing this madness for ideals of democracy (ironic, indeed, since he's led us down - and I do mean down - an undemocratic proto-fascist street. If Bush really does believe he's doing this to speard democracy, then he's not only a puppet but a dupe of a puppet. McCain may have gotten a payoff or promise of a big payoff of one kind or another - who knows?

"Liberal Warrior" - that

"Liberal Warrior" - that inhumane greed is not a "virus" from an alien (or even non-human) domain. It's all too human. It's regression to the kind of pre-rational egocentric and ethnocentric brutality humanity has all too often lived in in the past, before the sacredness of all human life was codified and acknowledged in the Age of Reason (not that that has stopped regressive greed and wars since then, as we're seeing now). We need a critical mass of humanity to reach the rational plus level , so that this kind of inhumanity is reviled on a very broad basis.

Regarding; Don H> "that

Regarding; Don H> "that inhumane greed is not a "virus" from an alien (or even non-human) domain. It's all too human." ......................... Exactly! It has always been present in the species, but it seems to acting like a terminal, virulent, virus and is spreading rapidly. The point is, that it is alien to humanity and the environment. Apparently, the term 'Alien' is confusing to the issue (I in know way, think these people are 'Extra-Terrestrial' aliens). I have tried to be clear about that. .... The reference to 'They Live' is simply an analogy to the 'fact/condition', that most, can't see the destructive intent of these afflicted persons. Are we experiencing a human 'Lemming Syndrome' (?) rushing to our destruction? ........... A KNESAL 'Liberal Warrior'

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