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@Stuart Davies - Great response, and on target. Other main stream media goofs - videos of Bush stating he SAW the first plane hit the tower on live television while waiting to enter a classroom to read to children; When actually the only film of it didn't surface until much later that evening or the next day. Video of Rumsfeld saying the plane over PA was SHOT DOWN. Also, no video or proof that a 757 hit the pentagon, when at least 40 cameras in the area would have been pointed at the flight path. oops.

http://dailycensored.com/2011/05/21/conspiracy-theory-ii/
Read Project Censored recent post by Dr Robert Abele concerning Peter Dale Scott, Phd from Berkeley.

Mr. Guma should be congratulated for going this far in mentioning a censored story (even with the caveats, inappropriate juxtapositions etc.) "... there is the assertion that 9/11 was an inside job and all that this entails. No offense meant. I’ve been called a “conspiracy nut” myself, specifically for saying that we should know more about the attack on the Twin Towers." It is refreshing to see this in the media.

What you wont find from the mainstream media, and even liberal, progressive sources, is that there are over 1500 Architects and Engineers have signed the "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" petition calling for a new investigation into the destruction of the three skyscrapers that day ... the Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 ... citing forensic and video evidence supporting Controlled Demolition. While this makes many people uncomfortable, and even dismissive, people who believe the laws of physics hold every day, and who ... ten years after those mind numbing events, realize that the evidence for Controlled Demolition is overwhelming.

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth does not attempt to assign responsibilties for the destruction of the World Trade Center or ascribe motives for it. They simply call for a new investigation. View their website www.AE911Truth.org for more information.

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Prior to World War II, Americans were committed isolationists very opposed to entering World War II. On October 7, 1940, Lt. Commander Arthur H. McCallum, Far East Naval Intelligence, wrote an eight-point memo outlining how to lead Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, all of which were accomplished. In August of 1941 Churchill noted "an astonishing depth of Roosevelt's desire for war." On December 6th, 1941, Roosevelt stayed up all night with top advisor Harry Hopkins, Henry Stimson, George Marshall, Navy Secretary Knox and two aides awaiting the "surprise attack." The "date which lives in infamy" belongs to Roosevelt's systematic murder of Americans at Pearl Harbor in order to garner public opinion to war. I think this article is mainstream propaganda not up to the usual standards of Truthout to publish.

Theories and Hoaxes
Sunday 29 May 2011
by: Greg Guma, Maverick Media

Who made you guys the EXPERTS?
What makes you think that you have all the right answers? You guys work and are paid, by the same controled Media, the information approved by the Government, in one way or another.
Doc

Ahhhh yes, let's lump the millions who dispute the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 in with right wing apocalyptic end-of-the-world loonies, there's a clever debate tactic! Talk about blurring reality.But in spite of the pervasive, and very persistent ridicule by mainstream pundits and many supposed liberals, the fact remains that (according to a Zogby poll) well over a third of Americans, and over half of New Yorkers, believe that the US government was in some way involved in the events that transpired that day.

This is a fairly astonishing fact, given the relentless hyping of the government's version of events, and the fact that not a single lefty intellectual of any significant stature will touch the topic with a ten foot pole, unless it is to disavow any alternative "conspiracy theories" - because they understand that it would be the kiss of death to their credibility even in the mainstream of progressive circles. I suspect that some of these individuals have doubts about the official version of events, but they dare not open their mouths, and instead cringe from the subject with an instinctive fear of the hysterical backlash - from right, left, and center - that they know awaits anyone who is foolish enough to publicly question the official version of reality.

We expect to see an intransigent resistance to logic, empiricism, deductive reasoning, and the norms of formal debate from right wing nut jobs like Limbaugh and Hannity on any topic under the sun - and we fully expect them to pounce with zeal on any fool who dares to openly challenge the official conspiracy theory of 9/11, and pillory them at maximum decibels in the right wing media echo chamber. This of course will be repeated within the more "moderate" elements of the corporate media as well... no surprises here. But what really fascinates me is that we see similar treatment meted out from elements within the progressive community, that we have the alternative media acting as enforcers of Official Truths along with the right wing and corporate media, participating in the general punishment handed out to those who have the gall to publicly deviate from the conventionally accepted take on reality.

The volume of hard evidence which contradicts the official story of 9/11is mind boggling, and perhaps it is in part the sheer overwhelming body of minutia that deters so many people from delving deeper into the matter, along with the psychological deterrent mentioned above. It is too much work to sift through so much information and attempt to make sense of it, and it is probably simply beyond the deductive capacity of many people in any case.

So let's set 9/11 aside for now, and talk instead about some other stories that have been publicized in the corporate media in recent years... some other official versions of "reality" that have been widely disseminated, widely accepted by conservatives and liberals alike, and subsequently shown to be fabrications.

Where do we start? There are examples further back, but why not begin with the Gulf of Tonkin incident, where a US navy ship was supposedly the target of a torpedo attack by a North Vietnamese patrol boat. This was stated as a fact by the US government, reported as such by the media, and widely accepted as the unvarnished truth by the political establishment, Democrats and Republicans alike. There was no dissent from this official version of reality at the time, and it was used as a pretext for a full scale invasion of Vietnam by the American military... which of course led to years of useless bloodshed, a deplorable litany of US war crimes, and a permanent stain on the reputation, integrity, and honor of the United States. Eventually, of course, the whole Gulf of Tonkin torpedo attack was revealed to be a fraud by the commander of the very ship that was supposedly attacked.

Jumping ahead (and skipping over dozens of examples during the Nixon and Reagan years), why don't we consider the story of Saddam Hussein attempting to buy tons of yellowcake uranium from Niger, with the ostensible purpose of enriching it to make nuclear weapons. This was the topic of a concerted media blitz undertaken by the (Bush) Cheney administration, widely reported as fact by the mainstream media, and accepted at face value by a wide spectrum of the political establishment and society as a whole (though there were dissenting voices in the alternative media at the time). The yellowcake from Niger story, as well as the larger WMD story, were widely accepted as fact based reality, and successfully used as a pretext for a full scale invasion of Iraq by the American military... which of course led to years of useless bloodshed, a deplorable litany of US war crimes, and a permanent stain on the reputation, integrity, and honor of the United States. Eventually, of course, the yellowcake story was revealed to be a deliberate planting of fabricated "intelligence", and the larger storyline of WMD's in Iraq was also proven to be complete bullshit.

Then we have the Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch stories... American soldiers in the invasion/ occupation forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. Tillman, the hall of fame football star who ditched a multi-million dollar NFL contract to join the special forces - was shot and killed, ostensibly in an accidental incident of "friendly fire" while on a night patrol in Afghanistan. Tillman was a poster boy for the (Bush) Cheney military campaign, and by many accounts a well educated, intelligent guy who had the ability to think for himself. After joining the military and a period of active duty, he became disenchanted with the realities he witnessed in Afghanistan, and the expansion of the "war on terror" into Iraq. There were indications that he was preparing to publicly protest the invasion of Iraq, and was reported to have planned a meeting with Noam Chomskey shortly before his death.

The official version of reality regarding the circumstances of his death was full of implausibilities, contradictions, and outright fabrications, but even so, it was reported as fact by the mainstream corporate media, and widely accepted as such. Eventually, some of the fabrications were exposed, an official military "investigation" was undertaken, and the official version of reality was recanted and revised more than once. To anyone - including his parents - who paid attention and dug beneath the official story line(s), it is apparent that the truth of this matter has been hushed up and covered up.

The story of Jessica Lynch that was hyped in the media... of a heroic, diminutive soldier who was wounded and abducted by Iraqi insurgents after a valiant firefight, then extracted from the clutches of the evil villains by a commando raid on the hospital where she was guarded at gunpoint by a small army, is still widely believed to be true by many. This is interesting because she is still alive, and gives us a first hand, eyewitness account which flatly contradicts the official version of reality on several key points. While she clearly is not the sort of conscientious intellectual rebel that Tillman was, and basically seems to want to live a quiet life out of the public spotlight, she has given interviews which unequivocally reveal most of the government/media story to be an absolute fabrication - a bullshit based human interest war story to be used as pro-war propaganda to manipulate the emotions of the credulous masses. There has been no coverage in the corporate media of the repudiation of the government's lies by Jessica Lynch, no retraction, no correction. The bullshit still stands.

Even more recently, we have seen further evidence of the factually challenged nature of official reality. We have seen the Obama administration get caught in lies about the supposed killing of Osama Bin Ladin in Pakistan, and watch as they back pedal and revise the official version of reality. After many weeks of lying about the gravity of the nuclear disaster in Japan, TEPCO officials have finally come clean about events there... sort of. They have been telling us about their plans to achieve cold shutdown of the reactors within a period of months, telling us the have positive pressure in the reactor pressure vessels, and saying that there was no meltdown in the reactor cores. The media dutifully and unquestioningly reported their lies as objective facts, and the Japanese and American government officials, the nuclear regulatory officials in both countries went along with these lies, even though they of course had to know the truth of the matter.

The official version of reality was originally that the reactors did not melt down, that the problem of radiation contamination was localized, and that the plume of radiation arriving in the US was very low level and not of any consequence to human health. Then they told us that, well, there was a partial meltdown in one of the reactors. Well, maybe in three of them. Then they tell us that there was a complete meltdown in one, but probably not all three. A few days ago, they tell us that there was probably a full meltdown at all three reactors, but that the molten fuel is still covered with water and being contained inside the pressure vessels. The media has accepted and reported these continuously changing versions of reality unquestioningly, in spite of the fact that reputable experts and common sense have indicated all along that they were lies.

We know the temperature of molten nuclear fuel (over 5,000 degrees), and also the melting temperature of the stainless steel pressure and containment vessels (just as we know the melting temperature of structural steel and the burning temperature of jet fuel - the symmetrical inversion of truth in these two examples is curious, isn't it?). The experts can tell us how long it would have taken for the water in the reactor core to boil away after power to the cooling system pumps was lost (less than 4 hours). This information was readily available to all the industry and governmental officials - they knew perfectly well that the reactors were going into full scale meltdown, because there was simply no other possible conclusion to be drawn. This information was readily available to the media if they cared to make the least effort to do their jobs - and the implications of this information was plain to anyone who bothered to consider it. Yet each step along the way, they have gone no further than to report the most recent update on the industry/corporate state version of reality, and of course making no mention of the very obvious fact that they had been deliberately misled by previous statements - once again participating in the lie by going along with the pretense that this was newly discovered information.

All along, the obvious truth has been staring us all in the face, easily seen to anyone who has a high school education and high school level deductive reasoning abilities... along with that crucial willingness to question the official version of reality. The unpleasant truth is this: all three reactors underwent a full scale meltdown within hours of losing power to the cooling pumps, the molten fuel boiled off ALL the water in the pressure vessels, then melted through both the pressure vessels and the primary containment vessels, and now sits on the shattered concrete floors of the secondary containment structures in a pool of insanely radioactive water. These fuel masses will continue to boil off radioactive steam and/or leach an evil witches brew of radionuclides through cracks into the water table and the Pacific ocean for hundreds of thousands of years. There is no fixing this atrocious mess, and there will be no "cold shutdown".

The list of official lies goes on and on, seemingly into infinity.... these are only a few examples - I could go on for pages. Anyone who can manage to remain oblivious to the history of government lies, disseminated by the complicit corporate media, has put some earnest effort into keeping their head buried in the sand. In the intelligence industry, they have a term for manipulating public opinion - they call it "perception management". These people have vast resources at their disposal - they command hundreds of thousands of civil servants in the US alone, methodically employing insights gained through decades of intensive study of human psychology... and they clearly take their jobs seriously - no doubt most of them believe that the devious stratagems they employ against their fellow citizens are for the good of the country. In spite of these tremendous advantages, however, our corporate overlords could never succeed at brainwashing the masses half as well as they do without the the child-like naivete, gullibility, and willful blindness of so many people. Anyone who helps perpetuate these Official Lies needs to be named and shamed, Greg.

PS just found a new (obscure) article detailing a TEPCO report to a governmental regulatory ministry that came out Monday, just now filtering through. Sure enough, they admit that the containment vessels were breached a month and a half ago, a matter of hours after loss of power to the cooling system pumps. So much for that "positive pressure" they were telling us they had on the pressure vessels, eh? Guess it will take a few days more for the word to dribble to and through the corporate media.The next revision we can expect will be an admission that the molten fuel is NOT sitting on the floor of the pressure vessels (as they continue to maintain), but has melted entirely through both the pressure vessels and primary containment vessels, and is now on the concrete floors of the secondary containment structures, which are open to the air above, and cracked below. Don't expect any revision of the nuke industry/governmental misinformation about the health risks of widely dispersed low level radiation any time soon, however. This will become apparent to all in time - it is an easy call to predict a massive spike in the cancer rates in North America 15 or 20 years down the pike.

This is for ALL those foolish people that believe everything that is fed to us throught the controled Media.
Be a real American, stand up and write your own name on the "Wall of Shame."
Dr. Clinton

You know, you may be right, a lot of "Conspiracy Theories." maybe just a Hype but, just think, what if only 10% were true? Personally, I think it is much higher than 10% of being true. I feel really sad that most of Americans believe ALL the information that is fed to us by our leaders in the Government throught the controled Media. Most Americans have not read the Constitution or even know what its all about. Our founding Fathers created it to protect the American people against the Tyrany of the Government. We must always question authority! After all, think about it, "Who Guards the Guards?"
Doc

It seems to me that even the wackiest of premises begin from a point in the "reality" of our existence (whatever the hell that is). Taking the time to dismiss an idea because it fails a number of logical tests is of benefit, if only from our being forced to analyze and determine our true positions on a subject.


Only a dunderhead is actually swayed by these theories - better still if they're swept away by them. The bottom line is that, until further notice, anything is possible unless proven otherwise.


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Yeah these wacky theories are a real problem. Thank God our benevolent Establishment would never concoct murderous schemes and plots. Like Iraq's WMDs that were really truly perceived as a serious threat to America. Honest. And before that we really needed to kill 1,000,000 Iraqi children because if Iraq sold its oil, Saddam would use the proceeds to attack us because that is the kind of thing that a Hitler du jour would obviously do.

And what about President Kennedy? Good thing Allen Dulles and the Warren Commission got to the bottom of that. Strange that Dulles would take such an active role in the investigation since Kennedy fired Dulles from a job in which he ran a political assassination apparatus that utilized assets including the highest echelons of organized crime. Obviously it was the wacky Oswald who went to work one day and popped his head out the window and started shooting when the president drove by. Only conspiracy kooks would wonder how this Oswald could get in and out of the Soviet Union so easily and what he was doing at Guy Bannister's office.

Unless you want to be kook, ignore the Zapruder Film that shows an obvious head shot from the front of the president. It is just tho old "Brain Rocket Effect" whereby someone gets shot from behind and it turns the person's skull into a rocket with brain matter propelling out the front, thrusting the person backwards, obvi.

Fast forward to 9/11: that Building 7 collapse is just one of those things that happens also. Ignore your lying eyes if they tell you that it is an obvious controlled demolition. Sometimes a fire in a steel framed sky scraper just produces that effect.

The governemnt must be telling us the truth about these things because gosh, if they weren't, that would suggest that we a fake democracy that is in fact ruled by an unelected Gangster Establishment that pursues whatever kinds of wars and murderous policies that it sees fit, whilst using mass media as a giant Pravda octopus to enthrall us with whatever myths that they dream up to sell their imperial policies to the public. I am sure glad that we don't live in that kind of a world and that we have good liberals like Greg Guma to point out the dangers of "Conspiracy Theories." Now I can go back to watching Dancing with the Stars or maybe I will do some canvassing for Obama.

I think the Wall of Shame is a good idea, but who is strong or powerful enough to make it work?
If anyone says anything about Fox/Faux News they are pilloried publicly by the network and its goons and there will be no shame.
Anything ever said about Palin gets her vicious tongue out and lashing within hours.
To me it's sad that the MSM spends so much time on these Hoaxes because they are deemed by editorial boards as "news" and need to be covered ad nauseum.
To the point that it has become a badge of honor among the theorist/hoaxist crowd as to how much coverage they get by the MSM.
What we need is a quasi-Pope device/person that can put a stop to the hoax much like Obama's finally giving up the birth certificate caused Trump to back off and drop out.
But there's no one/nothing that is strong enough to have that effect on these people bent on creating mayhem.
What we don't need are laws against this, as that would be the end of democracy as we know it.